BlackBerry sues Snapchat parent Snap, claiming patent infringement

BlackBerry has recently made it known that it considers suing for patent infringement to be a 'profit center.' Actually, this seems to have been the case going back a few years. For example, who can forget the company's victorious defense of its physical QWERTY keyboard when it won a judgment of $860,600 back in 2015 from Typo. The latter firm sold a case for the iPhone that doubled as a physical keyboard...
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35. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

More like BlackBerry is defending what’s theirs, and you only like have a problem with it because it’s BlackBerry. You defended Apple tooth and nail when they sued for a generic name, with no problem. And just because you’re a xenophobe doesn’t mean that BlackBerry having the largest instant messaging market share in a third world country doesn’t count. Stop it with your straw man argument.

41. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

No, I have a problem with it because it's patent bullying. You're only saying that just because I said it even though I said the same thing about Oracle. You didn't give me any issue with it, so obviously it's because you just don't want to admit that blackberry is wrong here even though you basically begged them not to become Apple and resort to litigation. And it's funny that you show your hypocrisy. You claim Apple is wrong for trying to patent a rectangular shape and a generic name, yet BlackBerry is doing the same. Exact. Thing. Here. But you obviously are ok with it. That makes you a hypocrite. I'm not a xenophobe. You're just grasping at straws again.

44. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

No, you have a problem with it because it’s BlackBerry. You never had a problem with Apple litigating, now have you? You didn’t give any issue with it, so obviously it’s because you just don’t want to admit that you have an issue with BlackBerry because it’s BlackBerry. I want them to continue to litigate for the right reasons, which is what they are doing, and not litigate for something as genetic as the name App Store like Apple did. Where did I mention Apple and rectangular shape? Now you’re making stuff up to suit your false narrative, as usual. It’s not hypocrisy for me to be against Apple for suing for a generic male line App Store. It’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to be. But you sure are ok with Apple doing it. That makes YOU the hypocrite. You are a Xenophobe. That’s eveifent in your “straw man” arguement.

50. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Once again you deflect to Apple. You are the only one who brings up Apple. You are the one who claims to own an iPhone. I'm an Android user remember? I have an issue with them litigating for genetic reasons. I have an issue with them cloning generic things that are used by everyone. Lol, what the heck? Male line? Are you drunk? You must be drunk. I'm not making anything up. It's out there in digital ink like you said. If I was a xenophobe, I wouldn't be enjoying technology. You are the one who is making up false narratives.

54. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

Once again you take things out of context. But that’s just typical behavior for you. And you can’t even post a pic of the phone you have, so I call baloney on you being a Smartphone user, much less an Android user. Now lay off the hypocriskey. You’re drunk with spamming this article with lip service, and see comment #52 while you’re at it.

28. Subie

Posts: 2325; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

So say you're a farmer. You purchase land, cultivate it so that it's just right for farming. Now you get to a point where you can no longer work the land yourself. Agriculture being important so you're willing to let other farmers lease the land and grow their own crops on it. Should those other farmers be able to just walk onto your property, grow and harvest their crops and not pay you a dime because you no longer make crops yourself? Just because Blackberry no longer makes phones themselves doesn't mean that others should be allowed to just use their property(even intellectual) without proper compensation.

31. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

But communication between electronic devices isn't something that can be patented. I see what you are saying with your farming example and to answer your question, no that doesn't mean any farmer should just pop up and start planting without paying the landowner a dime. But even so, that's not entirely the same case as this. I would argue that it's like another company making a sandwich and subway sues them for intellectual property violation for making a foot long sandwich.

38. Subie

Posts: 2325; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

You're right two electronic devices communicating with each other can't be patented. But how they communicate with each other and the designed protocols involved in that communication takes R&D and money. And that can and does get rightfully patented. Just ask Qualcomm or Huawei - they'll tell you the same thing. If you disagree on what should or should not be allowed to receive a patent then you should take it up with your local patent office. And like I alluded to in post 19 earlier, if these patent suits by Blackberry are bogus then they'll most likely get thrown out...

40. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

How they are communicating here in the language blackberry has listed is just too broad. I'm sorry Subie, but I have to disagree here. No disrespect or anything, but multiple outlets are picking this up and are questioning BlackBerry's reasoning for going after something so trivial. If it was one entity, yeah maybe I could give it some slack. But Snapchat, Instagram, and Facebook? What's to stop them from using these bogus claims on other companies that use electronic communications? Guess who ultimately pays the price in the end, us. The consumer.

25. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

It is standard if you actually "read" it instead of just going in and talking out of context, but then again some people have proven that they are incapable of utilizing logic. Specific IP that falls under too broad and generic. Some people just don't want to admit that blackberry is in the wrong. I'm glad that you are understanding and more reasonable than a mean fake just because the obvious fact was stated. The language is so generic and broad that it can be applied to nearly anything electronic. I don't understand why some people can't comprehend that. I'm not sure what that person is getting at, but I know that I've only been around for a few months. Maybe they are misinformed yet again since it's a running gag now.

27. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

It isn’t standard. I actually read it. You are the only one taking things out of context here so you can pursue your changing of the facts to suit your false narrative agenda. But then again, that’s to be expected from people who has issues with logic and comprehension Where is your proof that this IP falls under anything to broad? Oh wait, you have no proof. Some people just want to make up negative things about BlackBerry just because it’s BlackBerry. Lol, you do realize that you are responding to my comment, so you just gave me a compliment. LMAO! If you’re having trouble understanding how the comment system works here, how can you possibly understand what’s going on with the IP? The “language” states what Snap is illegally using. I don’t get why some people have a hard time understanding that. I’m not sure who you’re referring to since you obviously don’t understand how the comment system works here lol, but I do know that some people don’t understand how IP works, even though they’ve been around here long enough in various ways to and read enough articles here over the years to at least get a slight grasp of the situation.

36. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I don't have issues with anything. You can insult me all you want, but it's still not going to change the fact that blackberry has become a patent bully. Lol, you even begged them not to turn into Apple and go litigation crazy. Obviously you do agree that they are becoming a patent troll. It's in the language. Honesty why even call yourself meanestgenius if you aren't going to show the genius part? If the IP wasn't so broad, then the language would have been more specific. They aren't mutually exclusive. One has nothing to do with the other. I've only been here a few months and I still haven't gotten used to the awkward comment system. I understand if you are so informed since you are constantly here. Apparently you have been around more than once, and you still don't seem to be to grasp the fact that they are patent trolls now.

37. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

Of course you have issues with BlackBerry. That’s evident by every comment you make on a BlackBerry article. Even other users here have questioned you about it. And don’t insult someone if you don’t want to be insulted. You can call BlackBerry whatever you want, but it still won’t change the fact that al they are doing is protecting what’s theirs. Lol, that wasn’t begging, that was me wanting BlackBerry to litigate only when necessary and over legitimate things, as opposed to litigating over generic names like “App Store”. I obviously agree that BlackBerry is in the right here. The language states what Snap is illegally using, which is something you clearly don’t understand. Honestly, I can see why you’re so venomous all the time on BlackBerry articles. Lack of comprehension. The IP and language show exactly what’s being infringed upon. Yes, you not understanding what IP is or how it works didn’t mutually exclusive. Glad you’re admitting it. And you’ve been here longer than I have, and we both know that. You have been around here more than once, so you should understand how patents work from reading such articles and understand what a patent troll is, and what’s simply defending what’s yours.

39. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I have issues with blackberry becoming a patent troll, which others are starting to pick up on. You obviously questioned it yourself otherwise you wouldn't have begged them to not become hungry for litigation. You just don't want to admit that they have become patent bullies. The language of the stated IP is too vague and broad. What part of that do you not understand? And I have multiple links that show that blackberry has become exactly what I called them. That doesn't even make sense. Besides, your account is older than my account. Obviously that means you have been here longer unless you're incapable of telling time as well. No I haven't. I understand how patents and intellectual property works, but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with a proven patent troll.

45. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

Except they aren’t becoming a patent troll, they are defending their IP after companies refused to talks without litigation. BlackBerry isn’t saying that they can’t use their IP, they are saying if you want to use our IP, you have to pay for it. That’s he difference between BlackBerry and the other fruit company that tried to have everything under the sun banned in Mobile that didn’t have their logo on the back. You just refuse to admit that BlackBerry is in the right about protecting what’s theirs. The language is fine. It’s you that’s making into something that it’s not. There are different ways to get to the same end goal. Snap using a way that BlackBerry patented without their consent is wrong. What part of that don’t you understand? And I only need this link to the article to prove me right. Your opinion pieces (if you even have those links. Like you had a KEYᵒⁿᵉ but couldn’t provide the Imgur for it) are just that. Opinion pieces. Of course it makes sense. And NO, I haven’t been here longer than you, and we both know why. You aren’t fooling anyone here but yourself. Yes you have. And you clearly don’t understand how patents and IP work, or you wouldn’t have agreed with a proven patent troll so many times in the past.

51. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I think somebody forgot to log into the right account lol. They are becoming patent trolls. I have yet to see any tangible evidence of them copying this not so vague patent blackberry owns. Why don't you just say Apple instead of other fruit company. You're not being clever you know. No it's not fine. You only say that because it's blackberry and you refuse to go against anything they do even with mounting evidence that they are patent trolls. Btw, I did post those links. I'm not the one who has over 18K comments. Clearly that is evident that you have been here far longer than I have. I haven't agreed with blackberry though. Nice try though.

55. meanestgenius

Posts: 21619; Member since: May 28, 2014

I think you keep forgetting that everyone knows who you really are logged into this account, lol. You have agreed with the other fruit company, as they are serious patent trolls. Nice try, though. Now lay off the hypocriskey, it’s making you so drunk that you are spamming this comments section with the same old rhetoric and lip service, and see comment #52 while you’re at it.

12. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3112; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

No mxy. Stifling innovation is if BlackBerry or Microsoft - the true pioneers of mobile communication - say "No! You can't use our patents". They're more than happy to share their IP but it's going to cost you. It really is that simple and judges everywhere have agreed with this simple premise.

16. Venom

Posts: 3287; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Come on alpha, surely you can't be serious here? How can you consider something that is very broad as IP infringement? Those judges are stuck in the past with their archaic way of thinking. I can see why you would agree with them.

6. Nimbus

Posts: 442; Member since: Apr 02, 2018

Next they will go after telegram,tinder and many other social network apps for infringement use of their patents.

8. Nimbus

Posts: 442; Member since: Apr 02, 2018

If only they need to protect their intellectual property and need huge c@$h otherwise they are going after mainstream social apps for publicity just to stay in media,huge ca$h & just play good guy against these bad social network guys to remain relevant in mobile industry.

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