Only 850,000 BlackBerry branded devices shipped in 2017

BlackBerry Mobile appeared to get things on track last year with the release of two handsets. Both were manufactured by TCL under license from BlackBerry. In April, BlackBerry released the KEYone. Even though it sports a physical QWERTY keyboard, this is not your grandpappy's 'Berry. For example, a fingerprint scanner was cleverly embedded in the keyboard's space bar. Making our list of the most underrated phones of 2017, the KEYone features that fabulous aforementioned QWERTY, and outstanding battery life...
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8. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3098; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

850k is not a bad number for a handset with such a specific user base. To think this device was going to go toe-to-toe with the likes of iPhone, Galaxy or V30 would be foolish. A targeted phone such as the Caterpillar series by Bullitt would be more apropos.

32. PenTiltoKet

Posts: 552; Member since: May 18, 2016

850K/year..... Down from 60 million/year is a sign to quit!!

35. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

BlackBerry Mobile just start selling BlackBerry Phone with KEYone. They start from zero and reach 850k/year. This is good sign, not sign to quit. You must post fact, not fiction.

39. meanestgenius

Posts: 21453; Member since: May 28, 2014

More fact speaking. Glad to see I’m not the only one to drop them here.

50. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

People like us must report fact and truth. It is who we are.

61. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

If you guys are going to hi five each other after posting these "facts" then you should have substantial evidence to prove said facts, right?

72. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

You need proof that BlackBerry no longer make phones? Here you go- http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/technology/blackberry-outsource-phones/index.html You need proof that BlackBerry Mobile/TCL make BlackBerry brand phones now? Here you go- https://crackberry.com/cleaning-confusion-what-you-need-know-about-blackberry-and-blackberry-mobile#kg2Q7dGEPSghCpv8.97 There is my evidence. Where is yours to dispute what I post?

9. shihte

Posts: 60; Member since: Sep 02, 2013

They have worse sell numbers with android then bb10 os bravo chen u genius

13. jellmoo

Posts: 2531; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Blackberry doesn't sell handsets, they only license their software and brand. So it's all profit and no risk. So yeah, the dude's pretty solid.

18. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

That's because their last devices sold poorly. Under Chen. I don't think it's all profit unfortunately.

31. PenTiltoKet

Posts: 552; Member since: May 18, 2016

No risk? They also need someone, that were paid, to make the software. And since they only sell the software/os, they cant charge too much

36. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

There is no risk to BlackBerry itself since they do not sell hardware anymore. They make the software themselves, they do not need someone to do it. What they charge is still all profit to them as there is no hardware pitfall. Business 101.

62. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Risk of TCL no longer using the license because of low sales? Risk of blackberry name losing any value due to lack of sales? Assuming the name has any value left other than for security. There's always going to be risk. That is a FACT.

73. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

BlackBerry face no monetary risk from phone hardware. They do not make it anymore. TCL is content with sales. Do you need link for that, or will you do research for yourself? BlackBerry name will no longer lose value from phone, they are software company now. IF there is any risk, it is minimal at best BlackBerry, and will affect TCL more. What I say is FACT.

17. meanestgenius

Posts: 21453; Member since: May 28, 2014

jellmoo is correct. Considering BlackBerry just collects a licensing fee for the handsets shipped, it’s all upside and profit for them. That makes Chen a pretty smart guy in anyone’s book.

11. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Not going to make excuses, but this is a really low number if you ask me especially when it's only the number of devices SHIPPED. Sold is going to obviously be much lower. To put it in perspective, the Pixel phones have sold millions with about the same price point but much better specs than the recent Droidberry phones. Just putting the facts out there.

14. jellmoo

Posts: 2531; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

The KEYone is $500. The entry level Pixel is $650. Not exactly the same price point.

16. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

A difference of $150 doesn't really change the point.

20. meanestgenius

Posts: 21453; Member since: May 28, 2014

Exactly. Not the same price point at all, and not the same market, either.

45. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

$150 is not that big of a price difference. Are you saying the KeyONE isn't a flagship device?

53. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

I will answer this with obvious answer. He do not say KEYone is not flagship, but it is flagship for different market. Enterprise is a market, whether you believe so or not. The truth does not require your belief to be true. HP Elite X3 is good example of smartphone that is for niche enterprise market. $150 is big price difference for many people. You cannot speak for everyone and say it is not.

54. meanestgenius

Posts: 21453; Member since: May 28, 2014

And there you have it! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you, my dude. #FactsOnFactsOnFacts

64. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

You have to have proof for it to be fact. #MovesGoalpostBackToOrginalSpot

74. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

As they say, Pot meet the kettle. #TakesGoalpostFromYouBecauseYouUseItWrong

63. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I never said enterprise wasn't a market, but you can't continue running to the same crutch over and over again after losing the argument. Doesn't work that way. Again for purposes of this argument, $150 isn't that big of a difference.

75. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

You ignore enterprise market all of the time. Even by saying it is crutch, you are saying it is irrelevant when it is not. You cannot say something is crutch when it really not and think that it is anyway to try and win argument that you lose. It does not work like that. For this argument, it is a big difference. You cannot speak for everyone wallet.

23. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

You have proof that sold will be much lower? You are only speculating with no proof of this. If there is proof, provide link, please. Nobody provide sold number, only shipped number. By your logic, nobody sell as much as they ship. BlackBerry Android Phone offer things that Pixel do not offer, so term “much better” is subjective. BlackBerry Android Phone also is for niche market, not volume market. By your logic, Galaxy S line sell millions at about same price point as Pixel, but with much better spec than Pixel. Just putting fact out there and not make excuse.

46. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Obviously they can't sell more than what they shipped lol. Did you honestly just say that? I never said I wasn't speculating, but unless you have the numbers that they refuse to post, then I don't see why it would be wrong. I think you guys can't stop with the niche market excuse now. You can't use that for a crutch. The KeyONE is sold in carrier stores, or at least it was. Niche would be something like Jolla or even OnePlus.

52. MDCHO

Posts: 769; Member since: Jul 28, 2016

Shipped number is estimate given, and not exact number reported by BlackBerry Mobile. So it can be more since number is only estimate. You should know this. Everybody “refuse to post” actual number. Do not act like this something that is not common. Unless you can post actual number, you can be wrong. Niche market is fact, not excuse. Just because you do not like this fact, does not make it any less so. The truth does not need you to accept it for it to remain truth. KEYone is still being sold and it is for niche enterprise market. Even store it is sold in push it towards business customer.

65. Venom

Posts: 3110; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

You literally just said that they sold more than what they shipped out. There's no coming back from that slip up.

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