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BlackBerry 10, Z10 and Q10 - 'meh' or 'yeah'?

0. phoneArena posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:34

Does BlackBerry 10 and the accompanying Z10 and Q10 handsets stand a fighting chance against the specs juggernaut Android, the loyal base of Apple, and the up and coming Windows Phone aided by Nokia's engineering prowess? Mark your preference in the poll below and sound off in the comments with your arguments...

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posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:39 11

1. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)

At the other end of the tunnel, the carriers can make or break BB. We'll see how they will promote BB10

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 21:54

41. MONUQ (Posts: 31; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)

Sorry to say but why people scare to use new platforms.....

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 00:45

45. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

no one getting votes like windows phone 8 poll........................


posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:41 8

2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Count me in the major effort camp. Delayed shipping dates in the U.S. aren't going to help BB's cause.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:43 5

3. henrickrw (Posts: 408; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

I'm an Android supporter, but I will never let go my 9900 & now I'm heading for the Z10 & Q10.

I trust RIM will get back up!

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 13:59 5

11. vandroid (Posts: 348; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)

RIM is now called blackberry

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:46 4

4. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)

good product and good show , only problems i saw was the availability and carrier dependency

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:50 12

5. urtard (banned) (Posts: 82; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)

I'd say it could probably topple WP8

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:53 11

6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Past-generation specs, iPhone-Android aftertaste, no standout feature. Anything but a massive failure would be a miracle, and miracles rarely happen in this industry. Harsh? So is the competition.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:55 4

7. kirholstov (Posts: 146; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

did you hear that bb's stocks fell after the presentation?

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 12:59 6

8. timtimity (Posts: 196; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)

My next phone will be an Android (currently using an iPhone), but I hope BlackBerry do well. It might just be me but I'm seeing a little deja vu with them and Sony's phones last year (great phones, but not boasting some of the top tier specs on the market and a lot of time between launch and shipping resulting in them being overlooked by a lot of people).

Hopefully they'll keep afloat and they'll be able to do what Sony did with the Z earlier this month and launch a device that instantly gets lots of non-BlackBerry fans genuinely interested in moving to them.

Good luck BB.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 13:32

9. cR203 (Posts: 204; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)

With these new phones bb should be able to make a comeback. But with ios, android, and even windows phone it could get a little rough.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 16:14

17. hepresearch (unregistered)

Won't be easy. Can't be with Google, Microsoft, and Apple trying to keep them on the ropes.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 13:55 6

10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Very solid handsets from RIM, at least now they have a fighting chance.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 14:29 6

12. Derekjeter (Posts: 1085; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)

Why are you people focusing on the specs of the phone? These phones don't need a quadcore or eight cores. Are you kidding me. Just like windows phones don't need them. The only OS that needs that much power are androids. Like my note 2. Even though its quadcore it still lags and reboots itself. I love android for all the cool apps that allow me to cheat on all my girlfriends lol but it will always lag cuz it a heavy OS. The iPhone 5 that I also carry doesn't lag and iOS will not need eight cores either. If you didn't see the presentation watch it. It's the first one that I see where nothing lagged and everything was smooth. Remember when Google tried to do live demo of the Galaxy Nexus and it was slow and it didn't look good on trying the face recognition feature. Lol.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 17:10 4

20. Aeires (unregistered)

Guess some people don't understand that if you build the OS and the hardware, you can match them together so they run efficiently. Totally different story when you have to make it work on 200+ types of phones.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 20:16

33. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

Are you new to PA?

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 14:59 6

13. christianqwerty (Posts: 467; Member since: 05 May 2011)

specs arent everything. I have an s3, and even with all its power, touchwiz still crashes, it still lags, battery is bad, ive had to hard reset in 3 times in the past 5 months

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:39 2

14. N-fanboy (Posts: 543; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)

"Nice specs"... A guy from 2012 would say but now its 2013-maybe! Now i think its all about -quad core, 1080p and >8mp. The reason why Lumia920 is succeding in the market is becoz it boasts fatures like pureview, wirless charging & its taughness! What does BB have to bragg about?

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 16:12 1

16. hepresearch (unregistered)

Ooooohhh!!! I know, I know! A very nice open-faced QWERTY keyboard among open-faced QWERTY's? Oh, and a POSIX-compliant UNIX-based OS that meets SUS-specification? Oh... and built-in support for the BES and its descendants? I dunno...

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 17:13 4

21. Aeires (unregistered)

How about the best security in the mobile market. BB built their reputation and user base on that. Their messaging service is also killer, not really sure why you think they don't have anything going for them.

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 03:47

46. daftastic (Posts: 87; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)

Security? Against what? None of that will matter to the average user. It's not like every user is gonna have important documents stored in a phone. Furthermore, unless you're some big shot, nobody's gonna care and make efforts of hacking your phone.

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 09:09

48. Aeires (unregistered)

Sounds like you know little about BB. BB is geared towards Enterprise applications, where security is needed.

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 09:52

49. daftastic (Posts: 87; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)

And that matters to end-users how? "Enterprise" applications will be important to an average user? As long as a phone has Facebook, Twitter, Instagram none of that will matter.

What you should've pointed out is BB 10's unique interface. It's a better newer experience than the redundant iOS and cluttered (stock) Android OS. You know, eye-candy?

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 20:40 1

35. bigdawg23 (Posts: 462; Member since: 25 May 2011)

I would suggest you use a Playbook, which was built by QNX. The device can have a lot of apps open and true multitasking with NO Lag. Like others have sad Android needs Quad and Eight core to try and cure lag. I have yet to own a Android phone that doesn't develop severe lagging.

As for 1080p, why in the hell do you need that on a phone? Most users can tell a screen resolution difference or just don't care. And for the Camera it is proven mp doesn't matter its the lens and os that does. iPhones have better 5mp cameras than Android 8mp.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 15:59 2

15. cheetah2k (Posts: 1746; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)

The situation RIM finds itself now is where Apple will be in the not to distant future should they remain asphyxiated with not changing (evolving) iOS. I doubt very much BB will be a major contender with BB10 and their new devices - only time will tell

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 16:23 1

18. bluescreen (Posts: 154; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)

funny how once moldy berry watches all their corporate and multi line contract accounts leave at record pace they then finally decide its time to do a major over haul on their entire system....yet if they didnt lose all these major accounts im willing to be the farm that they wouldnt have over hauled their systems and phones.....too little way to late as far as im concerned.....u can polish a turd but at the end of the day it will still be a turd....

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 18:53 1

29. hepresearch (unregistered)

... unless you take the turd and mix it into a lot of chocolate brownie mix... 99% brownie, 1% turd... hey, if it's good enough for hotdogs, then why would the FDA not clear the 'fudge' brownies, too? I'll bet you'd never notice, anyway...

BlackBerry 10 has almost nothing in common, code-wise, with BlackBerry 7 and earlier. The only commonalities are in appearance only, and are superficial. Where the old BlackBerry OS was mostly Java-based, the new BlackBerry 10 is QNX-UNIX. BB10 has more in common with iOS than with the old BlackBerry OS, as Darwin and QNX are both POSIX-and-SUS-compliant UNIX. Even Android, Linux-based, while closely related to UNIX, is neither POSIX-compliant nor SUS.

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 16:46 2

19. StreetNerd (Posts: 836; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)

im sooooo PROOO WP8 now but QNX seems to be a beast OS o_0

if i cant get my hands on a cheap Lumia 920 before march, thn i might get BB Q10 on contract :')

posted on 30 Jan 2013, 17:14 3

22. Aeires (unregistered)

Go BB. My N4 is just a couple months old so I'm locked into Android but if I was looking for a new phone right now I'd take a serious look at BB10.

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