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Barack Obama says Steve Jobs is a symbol of the American Dream

0. phoneArena posted on 23 Dec 2010, 09:31

Barack Obama has reserved some special praise for Steve Jobs, citing him as an example of the American Dream...

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posted on 24 Dec 2010, 05:58 2

32. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Maybe you should ask a question and give me a chance to answer before you assume what my answer is.
I actually plan on getting involved in politics and my primary goal is to become president. I dont expect to lose. i expect to win. I personally dont believe American Voters are dumb. I believe the majority of them are very intelligent.

I have personally helped in campaigns, I have made phone calls, I have pounded the pavement, I ran projects, I have been involved in political groups, I have written papers about my political beliefs and I even almost ran for a local office this year.
I am only 22 years old.

Now, I will ask you. What have you done to make a difference instead of typing about how much you despise people like me?

No assumption attached.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 13:16 1

43. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Oh... whats that??? You dont have a comeback? Thats what I thought.

posted on 25 Dec 2010, 03:38 1

49. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

You believe that the majority of American voters are intelligent, yet you think that American voters made the wrong choice in voting for Obama? Hmmm. Talk to us when you actually win as President. Don't brag in here about your ambitions that are unlikely to happen.

Also, anyone in here can say that they have personally helped in campaigns, blah, blah, blah. I helped develop android os and also helped with the development of ios, and I am one of Bill Gate's close friends :) And I'm only 21 :) What else?

Don't ask me what difference I have made in a forum where anyone can make up any stories. That's quite a silly thing to ask. Just go for it and just do it.

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 15:19 1

58. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

530 you really should think before you speak.

Being intelligent doesn't mean you will always agree with everything I personally have to say. I have plenty of VERY intelligent friends that disagree with me all the time. Some of these very intelligent friends also voted for Obama. And even still, some of them believe he is doing a really good job.

I never bragged about becoming president. I only said that it was a goal of mine. Goals are very important in life. Having ambitions is what drives a person to actually DO something. Its sad that I even have to explain that.

Its funny that you can't comeback with actual facts. It is also interesting that instead of trying to show how you have helped, you try to discredit me by saying I am making these things up. Why dont you come back when you are ready for an adult level debate, because clearly you are not.

Stop attacking character and start shooting me some facts. If you need to use google to look a bunch up, go ahead, I wont blame you this time around.

posted on 27 Dec 2010, 04:14 1

63. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

I do think before I speak, unlike you who just brag about things like running for president.

Intelligent or not, you need to show respect to whoever is in position. I didn't even vote for Obama, but I will respect the majorities votes. He is still the President of my country.

Yes, goals are indeed important in life. Share it with your friends on facebook, or to those who care to know. Not here on Phone Arena.

There is an appropriate place for boasting or sharing your community service. This article is not about you mister, or whatever you've done in your community. What now? You want us to give you a certificate of appreciation or recognition? Geez louise.

posted on 27 Dec 2010, 14:29

65. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old.
I stated a few small things I have done and my plans for the future. I never bragged. You are simply confused. So on your next post I would like to see if you can argue about the actual point.
And the actual point is that Obama is a bad president.

And again, I dont respect people because of their title. You talked crap about Bush, but he still carries the title of president. So you are a hypocrite by your own standard.

And lastly, you shouldnt even be talking if you didnt even vote.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 02:15

27. btbotimtim (Posts: 257; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)

i prefer the dream act than the repeal of DADT.
i may not have the heart to go and stand on the frontline but young illegal kids may do so.
mr.president is making the situation worse than before.
he has wasted 2 years and he will till 2012.
He won't get re-elected in 2012 unless palin runs against him.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 19:09

18. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

It's because he have a Iphone or his daughters love their Ipods.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 19:22 2

19. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 470; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)

sorry smpdx I have a career not a day job. As I stated, was it Obama who ran this country into the dumps? If Obama has the lowest approval rating, then Bush must not have been rated. Remember 9/11 happened under his watch! I'll take my chances with Obama. I support him just like I supported every president i've lived under, no matter how crappy a job they did!

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 21:40 4

23. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

hey tre nitty, u do realize that bush has carried a higher aproval rating than obama almost the entire time (exept for right after the election). 9/11 happened because bill clinton was given osama bin laden 3 seperate times on a platter and refused to have him extradited to prosecute him for the bombing of the USS Cole and US embasies, because he was too busy bombing asprin factories in iraq to get the news to stop covering the monica lewinsky affair. if you think that Bush knowingly let 9/11 happen for some sort of oil conspiracy your a total moron.

BTW, the economy took a crap after 2006. after liberals took power of the house n senate. Bush gets the blame for signing bad bills for sure, but it was Pelosi, Reid, and Dodd that wrote the housing bill and TARP that brought the economy to its knees. Obama has quadrupled the national deficit in 2 years. A deficit that took over 200 years to get to the level he took it over at.

"Hey we got no job and were out of money, what should we do? Lets charge up 4x more than we have aready on the credit card! That will help us get jobs!!" --- Obama/Pelosi thinking. "

No, you cut government spending, government programs, cut taxes to spurr growth and development and DONT bail out companies with borrowed money from china with high interest rates. No company is too big to fail. And no company has a right to tax dollars as income.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 22:27 2

24. MikeG77 (Posts: 415; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)

Couldn't have said it better myself!

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 06:00 1

33. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


posted on 24 Dec 2010, 06:06 2

34. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

He has the lowest approval rating to date.
God tre-nitty, you really need to open your freakin eyes.
Even Obamas own party is starting to break ranks. And he barely finished up his first two years. At this time during bushes term, he was WAY up on the approval rating. Obama is currently negative.

Tre-nitty, you are a fool if you support a president just because of his title.:Like I said before. I dont respect presidents that believe in demand side economics. Not including the fact that he also believes in MANY other things I disagree with, but that for me is very important.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 06:09 2

35. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

to date as in "the current point in his term". Sorry, its 3am and I am sooooo very tired of people. Not just you though tre-nitty. You are worth getting worried over.

And actually yes,,, it was Obama who ran this country into the dumps. Who is president right now??? And how is our country doing right now???

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 06:15 2

37. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

"aren't" BLASTED keyboard.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 20:48 2

20. MikeG77 (Posts: 415; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)

LOL you people make me laugh so much! You all dont realize it but Obama and Bush are 2 pieces cut from the same cloth but hey keep believing what the news tells you.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 21:32 1

22. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

bush and obama are both symptoms and the conciquence of idiots of america voting. people no longer pay attention to what is actually going on and prefer headlines and slogans to actual knowledge. If people actually paid attention bush, obama, pelosi, reid, mccain, clinton(s), and many more would have ever gotten elected. 80% of people that voted for obama had no idea who he was or what his actual stances on anything were. heck, even howard stern (a staunch liberal) was making fun of people for how little they knew but were going to vote obama.. just because.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 05:13 1

29. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

I wish people like you would just learn to shut the hell up. The public does not really know the truth about what's happening in the government unless you actually were on top of it first hand. There are so many stories, speculations, theories, etc on how things happen in government affairs. Who's behind the assasination of Kennedy? Did Marilyn Monro really commit suicide? Who's behind the 9/11 tragedy? What's the real reason why we went into war? There are many, many different stories that are believed to be true regarding these major events in American history. Take a pick. As far as I know, most of them aren't really true. There's always more than meets the eye when it comes to government affairs. I say, as a citizen, just be a good one. Respect whoever the leader is, and give him or her a chance to do their work. Do your part as a citizen by supporting their platforms to try to make it work so we can all move forward and get out of this ugly economic crisis. That is where prayer and faith becomes an integral part of our nation. That He will continue to bless the US and give our leaders the wisdom to rule.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 06:14 1

36. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Oh... so now we are bringing God into this???
I mean... I am a Christian and conservative, and I didnt even use that tactic. HAHAH

posted on 25 Dec 2010, 03:41

50. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Because God is everything, so how can I not include Him? It is not even a tactic.

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 03:59

55. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

It was more of a joke. Sorry, sarcasm cant be heard online. lol

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 09:56

39. MikeG77 (Posts: 415; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)

530gemini I assume you are talking about remixfa and not me?

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 13:14 1

42. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Actually I was talking about you.
You said, "That is where prayer and faith becomes an integral part of our nation. That He will continue to bless the US and give our leaders the wisdom to rule."
Why else would you capatalize "He" when talking about prayer, faith, and blessings???

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 17:46 1

47. MikeG77 (Posts: 415; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)

LOL smpdx I never mentioned God, faith or prayer that was actually mentioned by 530gemini

posted on 25 Dec 2010, 03:43 1

51. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

I know Mike. Smpdx is stoned, lol. He's disoriented, lol.

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 04:01 1

56. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

Yes... I was tired and accidentally thought he said that. Fail on my part.
Freaking phonearena doesnt let you delete comments though. Unless there is a magic button I dont know about.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 10:49 1

40. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

People like me? Lol who is that.. An informed and involved voter? Shameful, I know. What does your religious rant have to do with my post? Some of us are conservative yet not religious. Your answer can be broken down to "i close my eyes to reality and pray to an invisible being to fix it because I don't want to make the effort myself."

Conspiracy theorists make me laugh. You can't tell the difference between hollywood and reality.

posted on 25 Dec 2010, 03:49 1

52. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

It doesn't matter whether your are an informed and involved voter or not. You have to respect whoever the majority voted as President. The US is a Christian nation, although you do not have to be one. Just because you do not see God, it does not mean He does not exist. You do not see the air either, yet you know that you breathe it.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 06:15 1

38. UpNorth (unregistered)

Obama is the antichrist and Steve Jobs is a close second.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 12:49 1

41. calamazoo (unregistered)

Obama actually turned out a pretty average guy, to my surprise. I voted for him, but he is a man of compromise, not the type of guy that would pound on the table and demand a profound change. He got played by the likes of Larry Summers, Dodd, etc., I'm not even bringing the Fed into that equation, they are accountable to noone.

To be honest, US never intends to repay that debt, that's clear. Bernanke is exporting inflation to China, and the bubble there will burst pretty soon. We'll just whine and beg, and threaten, and get out of it in a decade or so. Honestly, the machine was in motion long before he took office, McCain/Palin would have gone Keynesian as well (without the health care reform), since that's the only way big finance could survive, and they hedge their bets giving money to each candidate.

What Obama DID, though, and everyone seems to be forgetting that, is that he is a BLACK guy who became PRESIDENT of the USA. That feat alone was worth his term, the economy would have been in the doldrums with everyone else at the helm, too, except maybe Ron Paul, who I admire, but is not TV-likeable enough, and too old to be a president.

So, yeah, he fulfilled the American Dream, and is giving credit where credit is due. Steve Jobs was down and out for a long time, but came back to prove that if you listen closely to what people actually want - a hint of harmony, symbiosis between form and function, they will reward you with taking your company up to the second largest in stock valuation, solely based on faith and trust you will deliver.

Merry Christman, Phoneareners :-)
PS I got a Galaxy Tab for Xmas, but honestly it's way overhyped that it offers more than the iPad - good that I'm a geek, hehe

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