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As Windows Phone share grows, some see Android KitKat for low-end devices as a direct answer to Lumia 520

0. phoneArena posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:24

Some analysis is suggesting that Google went through the trouble to optimize Android 4.4 KitKat for devices with as little as 512 MB of RAM in an era where some handsets are pushing the 3 GB barrier because it wants to curb the success of phones like the Lumia 520. Nokia sold millions of that colorful cheap handset in emerging markets last quarter, displacing entry level Androids there without a doubt...

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posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:39 6

1. mousesports (Posts: 279; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)

I really like this . Keep it up and push the updates faster

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:05

10. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

YES!! Competition!!

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:39 4

2. jeff1434325 (Posts: 97; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)

Yeah!...Keep it UP Windows Phone!

Sent from Galaxy S3:)

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 05:58 3

3. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)

well done WP, i suppose....quite a poor OS IMO but others seem to like it....however if android can nail those good low end smartphones with no lag then WP market share will shrink dramatically!

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:15 8

4. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)

Android without lag is still a dream.

Galaxy nexus performance improved a lot with 4.1 Jelly bean. But after 4.3 it was lagging like hell.

It takes 3-4 seconds to go to homescreen from any app. My friends S3 is even worse.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:32 2

6. apple4never (Posts: 1064; Member since: 08 May 2013)

huh, maybe a fragmented update, because on 4.3 my n7 (2nd) n4 s3 all dont lag on homesreen, are you sure the animation scale isnt all the way up

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:41 1

7. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)

I don't know about n7 or n4.

Galaxy nexus is definitely lagging since 4.3. I don't know what you mean by fragmented update but my update was from Google only.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:55 3

8. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1526; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)

I don't know about 4.3 but I saw an entry level smartphone, xperia M which has no lag at all . I think it also hold same processor as Lumia 520.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:17

11. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

we'll just have to see how samsung low end devices with kitkat out of the box to see wheter is kitkat really optimized for low end

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:46 1

14. kashyap07 (Posts: 15; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)

So true!! I own it and yes it's really smooth and buttery ( I don't say that 520 isn't smooth cuz wp itself is smooth) and I'd always prefer Android to wp.. (especially xperia m due to otg support and stuff like that).

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 08:52

17. bon24x7 (Posts: 211; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)

Xperia M is good but it has 1GB ram not 512MB and it costs more than Lumia 520.! CPU and GPU are same though.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 09:24

20. kashyap07 (Posts: 15; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)

Maybe you're right.. But in India it costs like 30 -35 $ more... A flash, build quality, front cam, otg support , nfc and bigger battery would make up for it I guess..

But it has its downsides too.. The screen isn't that good -kind of washed out and the camera isn't that good either..

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 10:10

23. bon24x7 (Posts: 211; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)

As per the prices on Flipkart, Xperia M costs Rs 13490 whereas a Lumia 520 costs just Rs 8149. That's $86 more as opposed to $30-35 like you say it to be. Maybe its available cheaper somewhere else, but in most cases Xperia M is over the $200 mark for an unlocked device. Considering that, Xperia L is a better bet as it comes with Snapdragon 400.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 09:32

21. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)

But Xperia M has only 4GB memory while 520 comes with 8GB.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 16:12

24. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)

Why 4.3? It wasn't much of an upgrade at all.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:31

5. apple4never (Posts: 1064; Member since: 08 May 2013)

so if a crappy phone like the xperia j for example gets the 4.4 update, it would improve performance because its laggy garbage on 4.3

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:42

13. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

Yes. It would.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 06:57 2

9. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)

Well, they should update the Galaxy S II instead of working on new products, if they want to compete the "evil" Apple.

For how long shall the app developers target Eclaire?

Apple's transition to 64-bit will be fully completed within four years at max, starting as early with the removal of 32-bit silicons from their upcoming A8(or A9 at the latest).
Apple can and will do this thanks to the total control over their own AppStore.

Can Qualcomm or Samsung LSI do this? No, not even in 10 years due to the fragmentation.

Don't be fooled by the market share numbers. Samsung is currently pretty much the only Android OEM that makes profits.
Hardly any "weaker" OEMs like HTC will survive Apple's new, 64-bit-only-SoC pressure.
And even the survivors will have their products degraded to second rate ones while Apple dominating the by far most lucrative premium sector which further raises the brand value.

If Google continues doing nothing against the fragmentation, all this will very likely happen, gradually and suddenly.

Google should take some extreme measurements accelerating Android's transition to 64-bit, but instead, Google is doing exactly the opposite :
Thank you very much for discontinuing updating Galaxy Nexus.

PS :
And what prevents Apple from entering the lucrative server market as a side job? They have the finest ARM SoC known to mankind, top notch engineers (both SW and HW), own dev tools, own OS, and -most importantly- lots of cash.

Google might be in Apple's top customer list then.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:27 1

12. xoxoGeorges (Posts: 209; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)

Google can always try to optimize their OS for low-end but OEMs will never give up their custom bloatware...

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 07:51

15. mturby (unregistered)

They keep talking about kitkat and low end phones. Lets face it, who knows if the carriers will push this update to old low end android phones? the carriers barely push updates to some high end devices. why worry about updating an old device? u thinkg verizon will update 512 ram phones with kitkat just like that?

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 08:41

16. xperiance (Posts: 44; Member since: 22 Oct 2013)

Xperia m is an answer for lumia 520...

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 09:00

19. bon24x7 (Posts: 211; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)

Xperia M has the same CPU and GPU but has 1GB ram instead of 512MB for Lumia 520 and is often sold for around $60-80 more than the Lumia 520's retail price in most of the available markets..not sure how that's an answer to Lumia 520. -_-

But Xperia M is a really good low end android device IMO.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 09:00

18. Daniel_88 (Posts: 4; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)

Yeah cause windows phone, it's a great operating system , the live tiles are a really cool feature, and it's a really smooth operating system, no lag unlike android.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 09:44

22. residualhatred (Posts: 25; Member since: 28 May 2012)

I am a low-end user and have been for the quite a while. I currently have the LG Optimus F3 with android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean. Now the F3 has a dual-core snapdragon 400 (1.2GHz) with 4 GB ROM-1 GB RAM. According to this article and the hearsay, the F3 would be in-line for an update to 4.4. Forgive me if I am skeptical. As a low-user I have come to assume no updates. So I will believe it when I see it.

posted on 04 Nov 2013, 17:33

25. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

I'd like to see stats for Canada.

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