Armchair quarterbacking Microsoft layoffs: money, culture, and farewell to Nokia

Now that we have had some time to digest Microsoft’s announcements to take the axe to a number of...
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8. Liveitup

Posts: 1798; Member since: Jan 07, 2014

Said the troll.

11. WahyuWisnu

Posts: 1001; Member since: May 29, 2014

Said Maxwell R. in this article!!! You're not calling him a TROLL, aren't you?

48. CyberAngel

Posts: 50; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

He's The Troll!

9. cezarepc

Posts: 718; Member since: Nov 23, 2012

This article made me cry manly tears.

33. rodneyej1

Posts: 3576; Member since: Jul 06, 2013

Life goes on... Looks like it's iOS, Android, and WP for the foreseeable future... ............ And, looks like its iPhones, Galaxy devices, and Lumia smartphones for the foreseeable future... Time to get over it, move on, and get with now, instead of crying about the past... We need men up in here,, no more whining!!!

36. WahyuWisnu

Posts: 1001; Member since: May 29, 2014

I partly agree.... I agree that BB would not survive. But I don't think MS will continue the WP saga. It seems to me that nadela will slowly dismantle the WP team because it's not performing at all.

10. marcski07

Posts: 600; Member since: Apr 25, 2014

yes yes, clearblack tech is sexy and are unrivaled in outdoor visibility! I really hope they will make a screen like in n9's screen, sexy curved black glass elegant looking piece of device, with gorilla glass at the back and backplate design of n9 or lumia 800 for their camera sensor. if only I know how to make/edit a mock-up device... :/ my editing talent are close to none. :D

17. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

" The hot selling Lumia 520 and Lumia 620 series were better alternatives with Windows Phone, and the newer Lumia 530, Lumia 630, and Lumia 1320, provide even better coverage of the lower cost segment with better performance." Bullsht. All the new nokia lumias are cut down versions of the older phones. Even the X series has better specs. Better notice too how Nokia isn't touting anywhere on their web site that the new 530,630, or 635 have super sensitive touchscreens which can be used with gloves. Or that they lost the proximity and ambient light sensors for a pedometer sensor. Whoopy. Anand testes the phones and they all lost to the moto g with an identical soc save for one test.

18. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

"Now before you think I am about to get on the Stephen Elop-Trojan horse bandwagon, let me stop you. Everything, from the “Burning Platform” memo to his justifications to adopt Windows Phone were tough, distinct, and correct calls. There was no reversing the course before he took the CEO position. Nokia was on the way to becoming Finland’s BlackBerry. There is no disputing this. For all that though, Microsoft acquired an ailing partner, with some talent (those that aren't being dismissed), a few patents, some direct manufacturing capacity, and a brand name. " Wrong again. Elop could have and even *wanted* to use Android but gave a BS excuse that Google wouldn't help them. Then he turns around and makes one anyhow using MS services out of stupidity.

24. WahyuWisnu

Posts: 1001; Member since: May 29, 2014

I think Elop reason at that time were really funny. He argue that 1. using Android can't differentiate Nokia from the rest of the pact. 2. Nokia has it's own competing technology such as nokia maps. It's funny because. 1. Nokia finally produce an android phone, and it's really distinctive enough from the rest of the pack. 2. It is OK to put other apps that were not bellong to google, for example Lenovo put other maps company apps (beside google maps), Samsung put polaris office in their line up. Steven Elop is a great liar that even PA thinks he's a great wizard. Unfortunately, people like Steven Elop can enjoy his 30 million retirement bonus from Nokia/Microsoft while there's thousands getting the pink slip. PS: and while PA, and others still can't see through John Chen, I also think John Chen, while looking better than Steven Elop, is not as great as it thought it would be.

22. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

What I wonder is how MS and regulators are going to handle them competing with their device partners. There was a lot of talk that Google was going to be giving preferential treatment to Motorola when they acquired them. I don't see how this would be any different. And if their partners feel the same, it could lead to MS being the sole hardware provider of WP devices. Which at this point is almost there anyway. The number of non MS/Nokia WP handsets by top tier OEMS is about as low as it's ever been. So unless they end up rotating which manufacturer releases an update first, I think there's always going to be that preferential treatment idea floating in the back of other WP OEM's minds.

26. WahyuWisnu

Posts: 1001; Member since: May 29, 2014

I guess it's different story than the Google/Motorola story. Since android is dominating, the android partner were afraid that they would be kick by the Google/Motorola. But in Microsoft/Nokia, the partner were kind of 'forced' (paid?) by Microsoft to be a partner. So, if microsoft bully them (which they usually do), they will run away, and it's microsoft lost.

30. WahyuWisnu

Posts: 1001; Member since: May 29, 2014

32. rodneyej1

Posts: 3576; Member since: Jul 06, 2013

Looks like a lot of WP/MS haters really got their feelings hurt because of this article.... ............. The future looks bright!!

34. WahyuWisnu

Posts: 1001; Member since: May 29, 2014

Rodneyej1, for once, I agree with you. seeing how smart nadela crippling elop division of never-success, the future looks bright!!

35. ManusImperceptus

Posts: 724; Member since: Jun 10, 2014

A few arguments to some points made in the article... IPhone craze: I don't see this hitting Microsoft (or really anyone else) too hard - Apple fans will opt for an iPhone no matter what the competition presents, and people that don't like Apple or the iPhone will look elsewhere. The only thing that can change this is if the iPhone 6 is woefully underwhelming, or incredibly innovative, neither of which is very likely. Nokia: You'll argue that the remains of Nokia are better off without the devices division? Don't bother; that's a well documented fact, and has been for years. Elop: Elop was absolutely right in going for WP? I'll argue that all-out focus from Nokia on the MeeGo platform stood as much chance of succeeding as the equally undeveloped WP platform. The N9 was a critics darling let down by a 100% lack of support. To this day owners lament the demise of the best UI ever. With proper support this could easily have done better than WP...

45. Loubielou

Posts: 603; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Microsoft will always think that they are better than Apple,But they are Just Stupid Dreamers,Mr Elop shows how bad the Management at Microsoft is,He Think he Knows Everything but because of the Training he must have had a Microsoft,he must have loads of money or related to a Microsoft member,as is Days at Nokia Chairman just showed is Plan was not to Expand Nokia but to Downgrade it to its Lowest Value an then is old Employees Microsoft would then overtake them,so Glad i Switched to Android after soon as Mr Elop announced "Symbian Is Dead",Why?can"t Microsoft realise the Tiles On Windows are not a Good Selling Point

47. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Well it seems that there is no more Nokia - Luminas Just MS Luminas from here on until the contract MS has with Nokia expires which then will allow Nokia or whatever is left of them to reemerge and again make mobile devices. I wonder how different the landscape will be By then. Will Android still be Os King? will Apple still be raking in billions? Will MS still be producing phones? Will Blackberry still be a independent and profitable company or sold off in pieces to the highest bidders? so many questions and all we have to do is wait till 2016 for the answers. I can't wait building my time machine now to zoom into the future and see.....
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