Apple's new patent prevents audience members from illegally recording a live show on stage

Anyone browsing through YouTube can find a number of bootleg videos showing live performances that were not legally allowed to be recorded. This includes many Broadway plays and musicals including the mega-hit Hamilton. Rock concerts are also a popular subject of bootleg videos. Outside of catching someone red handed in the act of recording a show, is there anyway to prevent these illegal videos from being made...
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13. Dingy_cellar_dweller

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Good to see apple supporting its customers. Why invest and patent an invention that hinders your customers directly, since they took such a firm stance on the terrorist phone unlocking saga.

15. Barney_stinson

Posts: 672; Member since: May 30, 2016

Oh sorry!! You can charge us to get in that event but i love piracy!!so no iphone thn!! Piracy is healty for tech geeks

16. Dingy_cellar_dweller

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Recording you're self at a concert isn't piracy, its saving your memories.

18. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

24. deviceguy2016

Posts: 826; Member since: Jun 16, 2016

I'm undecided on this?¿?¿... Ya for privacy reasons but what's wrong to save memories also, it's a split on that one, but the one thing i HATE about Apple is you buy a pricy device and they tell you what to do and what not to do!!! That's why i started to use android more, i still use iOS but leaning away more, your limited to a iPhone, I'm tempted to buy the 7 pro but not sure anymore but the Samsung note 7 hell yes, my wallet is ready, and iPhone 6S plus gold 128 gb goes to Ebay!!!

25. sukrith2194 unregistered

I had this idea of putting infrared LEDs around theatre screens so that it wouldn't allow people to record as this light will block the users camera! I've asked people done research and everyone said it couldn't be done! That's because one can use infrared filters to stop the light from shining! Also since apple now has the patent no person can make something useful with this concept and apple won't do anything either.. it'll just sit there and be used for trolling others! There is a saying... the dog won't eat the grass nor will it let the cow eat it! This is best suited for apple...

26. talon95

Posts: 985; Member since: Jul 31, 2012

Say goodbye to iPhone sales. No one buys a phone for what it prevents you from doing. Use an Android. Or throw a filter over the lens to block infrared. I guarantee this creates more problems than it solves. Pirates will continue unaffected, DRM has only ever hurt the honest guy.

27. deviceguy2016

Posts: 826; Member since: Jun 16, 2016

True!!!!!! This is like American standard toilets telling you ya use the toilet only but no toilet seat covers??

30. deviceguy2016

Posts: 826; Member since: Jun 16, 2016

I know i posted I'm on the blue iPhone pro 256 gb in the past, but just now thinking of this Apple thing and I'll pass on Apple for good!!! It's going to be the same layout in iOS 10 I bet, just the typical Apple upgrade a bigger memory a different color blue and duel camera just to get people to buy it, but I bet the UI layout will be the same old boring iPhone and now this Apple block recording in live shows hummmmm

37. Leo_MC

Posts: 6647; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

This patent is not for the users but for those who organize shows. As long as it's illegal to record live shows, there's nothing anyone can say against measures that stop people from breaking the law. Does anybody has something against video cameras, mounted in the cities, who are filming them while driving, "violating their privacy"? No. Well, this would be exactly the same thing.

48. deviceguy2016

Posts: 826; Member since: Jun 16, 2016

Like the news media

54. harry101

Posts: 3; Member since: Jul 02, 2016

lol must be one of silly things ever to be invented , so u record a clip for a memory like %99.9 of the concert goers , most of the time u never see it again or maybe a small 50s upload to face book ..... u not going to make a profit on it ? so whats the point ? is apple want to control what you do with your ph ....yes . go android .... no i don't condone piracy but making a small clip for reliving the memory is all good

56. basher

Posts: 102; Member since: Sep 20, 2015

That looks like a lame patent. Come on, who can record an entire show with their iphone using that low quality camera and 16 gigs of memory? Lol. More restrictions for Apple users....and they still buy it.

73. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"More restrictions for Apple users....and they still buy it." Hence the reason why they're called sheep!

57. _PHug_

Posts: 482; Member since: Oct 11, 2011

Great sales pitch. Buy Our new phone that prevent's you from doing what you want to do

58. Fona13A unregistered

I think the more serious thing is, a company letting a third party (and even themselves) control your camera in public areas. The implications of this invasive IR tech is more than a little grim in my book. Who knows? Maybe Apple will get lashed for this, like Microsoft had been with the Windows 10 upgrade fiasco. I don't think manipulating cameras without user consent is mindbogglingly draconian.

59. Fona13A unregistered

*I do think manipulating cameras without user consent is mindbogglingly draconian. I hope Apple gets sued.

66. Leo_MC

Posts: 6647; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Next, we should allow people to fire guns in public, because it's their right to use them as they please, right? Don't you get it that it's illegal to film live shows, without consent?

70. Fona13A unregistered

You're equating a firearm to a cell phone. I don't know what's worse this comparison or the fact you are defending a clearly invasive measure to prevent something no powers in the world can handle at all. Similar to obesity, no powers around the world know how to deal with it. But let's keep defending corporations for their poor choices, that'll stop them, right?

74. Leo_MC

Posts: 6647; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I'm comparing breaking one law (filming a live show) with breaking another law (firing a gun in public) and, for me, the breaking of a law is the same as the breaking of a law (nice truism, right?)

60. AlikR

Posts: 45; Member since: Sep 05, 2013

consider another aspect of this - if the users know that apple was the one who prevented them from recording a concert, what do you think it will do to Apple sales?

61. Fona13A unregistered

On one hand it may not be an immediate threat to sales, on the other those who just bought an iPhone may end up returning them.

67. Leo_MC

Posts: 6647; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

If access to the shows is going to be allowed only to the people that have only Apple products, I think their sales will actually go up.

71. Fona13A unregistered

Yeah you will be buying more products from Apple. You are not everyone.

75. Leo_MC

Posts: 6647; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Why should I be buying "more" of Apple's products? I'm only buying what I need.

64. legiloca

Posts: 1675; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

Where is GreenMan when we need him most? :/

68. Droids-R-us

Posts: 35; Member since: Sep 17, 2012

Do people know that Google Goggles already tells you information about a picture ETC when you point your camera at at? No need to be in line of sight of an IR beam, it works just about everywhere. Looks to me like apple trying to justify another restriction by promoting a "New identification feature" that already exists (and is better) Hmmmm.

72. Fona13A unregistered

The only argument Apple fanboys have to defending their right to be sodomized with a flashlight (or, Infrared remote in this case) is Apple's prior "charity" projects we never ever hear about anymore. You suck-ups will defend Apple requiring your SSN for their next version of TouchID, and if anyone else proposed it, they can go to hell. Right? Whatever kink you're into though, just don't even attempt an argument when all of this blows up in your face.

76. ilani

Posts: 90; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

Goodbye Security Cameras! It was fun while it lasted!
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