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Apple's disappointments and successes with the iPhone 4S announcement

0. phoneArena posted on 05 Oct 2011, 08:56

Apple's event shows it has fallen into the Mac routine, where it may not be able to lead on all features or hardware, but will on focus on its core competencies, as well as unity, experience, and customer loyalty...

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posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:37 1

74. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

i agree with your hypothesis about how the release date could have changed this phone's fate however the 4S just came up too short in too many categories to remain a commanding presence in advanced specifications beyond even 3-4 months. it'll still hold weight because it's an iPhone but for from now until maybe the next iPhone announcement Android phones will be superior by a pretty large margin.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:40

78. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

oh sorry, this was @taco50 comment #20

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:10 1

27. notbeingsohappy (unregistered)

my first smartphone was the 3gs, then i had the 4. now again apple releases a marginal update. ive had it. my contract with my carrier is up in a couple months. im jumping to sprint and getting myself a phone with 4g, dual core, 4.3+" screen, NFC, & (hopefully ICS).

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:11

28. notbeingsohappy (unregistered)

sorry i meant to say 1.5GHz dual core, not just dual core

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:16

30. Dude (unregistered)

Siri does dictation inside txting, this guy must not have paid attention at the announcement. Siri mic on any keyboard...remember

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:24 1

33. had2chimein (unregistered)

android will have that soon. with ICS most likely. except it will have a badass name .

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:39

38. notbadatall (unregistered)

I remember seeing that too...(Siri dictation)
Actually, there is a misconception that smartphone is just hardware. It should be a perfect blend of hardware and software.
iPhone *still* is the best looking phone.
Yes, I'm disappointed that it still has a 3.5" screen. But, if Siri works flawlessly, and Apple builds well on top of that, this is indeed a great upgrade.
The screen might be small. But, this is a well built phone, all around.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:45

39. sprinter777 (unregistered)

i think it is hardware, software, and the network. the next nexus device running ICS and the next wave of android devices coming over the next month on a 4g LTE or WiMAX network are the best option for me anyway.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 15:09

216. PRPCTECH (unregistered)

Although not perfect, I used dictaion on my Samsung Galsxy S already so what is the big deal here? The fascinate is an old phone in todays standards so again what is the big deal?

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:45 2

40. ZAK (unregistered)

In fact, people are disappointed because of Apple's potential to produce something ground shaking, which is not the case in the announcement of iPhone 4S.

Furthermore, I doubt, Apple has something hidden in its sleeves, may be iPhone 5.
There may be 2 strategic reasons for it:

1. iPhone 5 can be announced couple of months later to counter continuously introduced Android devices in the market each month. Or,

2. Apple may not be ready to introduce iPhone 5 at this stage due to some technical issues (Which remained in the rumors).

Just a guess!!!!!

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:41 1

80. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

sound assumptions. we'll see about them.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:53

44. absolutezero (unregistered)

Great article my thaughts exactly as for me im going to wait for the iphon5 but until then its htc for me lol

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 00:53 3

45. manishharwani (Posts: 3; Member since: 19 Jun 2011)

apple is failed

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:02 1

47. baD_Apple (unregistered)

i wonder if the apple fan boys are going to mutiny on tim cook. lol

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:15 1

54. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

shut up Phone Arena. you guys weren't so soft on the Droid Bionic and it's the exact same scenario. don't try to soothe your iFan base when Apple fails and not be bothered to do it for your Android fan base when Motorola did nothing more than deliver on their promise for a LTE, Dual-Core powerhouse (which is more than we can say for this iPhone 4S) and not bring some kind of surprise to really excite you guys. the Droid Bionic is way better than this phone.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:20 1

58. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Haha you're whining won't help you fanboy. Michael is actually a pretty big proponent of android and I'd say a little biased against Apple and iOS. He's the last person you'd accuse of being pro Apple.

Bionic will be end of life by Christmas.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:26 1

64. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

And in its place will be the DROID HD/RAZR/some other better name, like a proper spelling of Razor.

What was that percentage again, Taco?

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:45 1

83. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

Michael's work is overrated but i'm not questioning his reputation now, i'm questioning the position he's taken trying to justify the biggest failure of an iPhone when such an act was un-thought of for a device of similar caliber and delays.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:54 1

89. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

The original iPhone was the biggest failure. 600 bucks, lacking features other smartphones had at the time, fragile, etc. This iPhone will be good, but it does not bear any mark of true innovation.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 02:02 1

93. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

even the original iPhone had real effort put into it which is always admirable but the 4S is nothing more than something to keep Apple afloat in a sea of high-powered Android devices and it was even met by delay, innovation should be delayed by Apple not this.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 02:11 1

95. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I think the delay is the only real factor here that makes it a true disappointment. If this had been released on the same schedule as the other iPhones it would have beaten out all of the major dual core competitors except for the Atrix. And although I maintain that the only reason this year's iPhone is dual core is because of Android's dual core push, it is the biggest leap in processing power they've ever included on an iPhone.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 02:18 1

98. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

what was out in the iPhone launch's time frame? i agree with you there but here we are in October talking about yesterday's iPhone launch. there's not even bad upgrades but the time for those is long gone. all smartphones especially the once a year refreshing iPhone needs to look good in the long run to be of any real competitive value. the 4S doesn't succeed to do so.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:39 2

145. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I think you've confused the word "failure" for "disappointment". The iPhone 4S was disappointing because of the overwhelming hype, but it's still a good phone that will be competitive with most high-end devices.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:53

154. roldefol (Posts: 4364; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

Agreed. Both Apple (iPhone 4S) and Motorola (Bionic) lost the PR game, but for different reasons: Apple by its silence in the face of months high expectations, Motorola by announcing an incomplete product months ahead of time. Both the iPhone 4S and Bionic are great phones, but their introductions were botched.

That said, Motorola can rebound by making the Droid Razr a great product and introducing it properly - soon - while Apple will have to wait until next year.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:21

188. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

this outcome is classified as only disappointing to people with a vested interest in the next generation of iPhone, i realize it's a power in the world and it will remain to be as such however to a mere observer daring Apple to impress him this disappointment equals failure. don't misconstrue my words to create a point that i'm well aware of. the failure in the context in which i've used it is the failure this is to a man that's had a phone with the same capabilities for over two months that expects more from Apple than a phone that can only remain afloat in terms of popularity and competitive yet limited specifications.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:31

209. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I can understand the idea that people expected more from Apple, but my feeling is that with the iPhone 4S, Apple has slipped into its Mac routine. It's not leading the pack, and we shouldn't expect it to. It will have some features that are better than the competition, but nothing exceptionally compelling for many users. That's why I point to the design as the big disappointment, because at this point, design seems to be the only thing that Apple can lead on, because it certainly won't be a leader in specs or features from here on out. Now, it's back to Apple's strengths with design and a unified experience.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 15:42

221. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

agreed. if this move by Apple has taught me anything it's that.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 17:12

229. roldefol (Posts: 4364; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

And ironically it's Samsung - they of the copycat packaging and TouchWiz - that looks to have the edge in design, if that Nexus Prime teaser is any indication.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 17:44

232. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

thank you Michael.. even though not bashing Apple made you some enemies withthe fandroids... but dont worry... they are bored waiting for the Prime even though that SGSII has not been relelased in every carrier yet and already have forgotten about them.. thats how they are..

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:26

66. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

I disagree that the droid bionic is better each have their pros and cons.
I will list some majors pros for both of these great phones
Pros for droid: LTE, Flash, Customization, Widgets, LIve wallpapers, open Market, Bigger screen (if you like that).
Pros for Iphone: Battery life, thinner, less crashes, iPod intreated into a phone, Better app store, Better Display, More polished features, Hardware and software made for each other,
So I could go on for both phones however I don't think its clear one is better while I do feel PA was very fair to the bionic and did give it a good review.

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