Apple's brand is not destroying the world

Last week, we questioned if those who were out to criticize Apple were judging the company by an old standard, namely the standard set by Steve Jobs. The company is no longer run by Steve, so while the products...
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87 Comments

71. karanstyle

Posts: 188; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Totally Agreed Change your name to iPhoneArena than PA. No one wrote when Nokia is trying to rise but still always mentioned as sinking. Apple makes me sick. In Apple's Language iSick :-P

16. rhinoceros

Posts: 33; Member since: Mar 01, 2012

Apple is not at fore front of tech. They just recognize good tech and purchase.... Siri,cloud tech, retina, etc

18. PhansMuneeb

Posts: 371; Member since: Jan 28, 2012

That's what the writers should say instead of stupid nonsense.

21. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

Every company recognizes good tech and purchases it. Google bought Android, Picasa, etc. You can't pretend that Apple is the only company that does that, nor that Apple only buys its tech.

30. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

You are right they ALL do, but the media says that Apple invents the tech or Apple claims it's something revolutionary that they did. That is the fundamental difference. Apple says they did something revolutionary, the media & the iFans say it was invented by Apple. STILL to this day there are people out there who think the iPhone 4 is 4G, that they invented Siri, & the touch screen. All this misinformation that clearly the media has to do with. You get some media outlets that are not qualified to report on tech but still do thus smearing the facts to unsuspecting people who believe anything and everything.

51. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

The fact that the media spins news (or is just too lazy to make the distinction) and gives credit to Apple when it isn't deserved is a bad practice. If I ever make that mistake, I hope I get called on it. I don't disagree with you, but you're talking about a different topic to what I was commenting on and what rhino was originally talking about.

62. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

ok fine. im calling you on it. Exactly what design part of the 900 is like an iphone? the fact that its a rectangle with a centered screen? lol

19. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

great article Michael. read the whole article unlike some haters here..

38. Mandroid

Posts: 209; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

Shaddup, drone.

52. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

Thanks! Unfortunately, the point of the article was to reasonably show that haters can say what they'd like about how Apple does business, but hating the products just seems like a waste of energy to me. Don't think you really needed to learn that lesson.

26. Tarzan

Posts: 63; Member since: Feb 26, 2012

@Michael I don't blame you for this but the thing is you get bored reading about the same product 100 times a day. I'm subscribed to 10 different phones/tech blogs and I get same story at least 10 times a day (no exaggerating). I bet even Apple fans have had too much of it lately. I'm one of those who start hating a product/brand when there's a lot of hype around it and Apple is certainly one of 'em.

27. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

Sure, there are a lot of articles about the iPad last week, of course the news was all Android the week before. I guess I just don't understand why it should be that annoying. Why would you ever have to read any more of those articles than just the headlines? You should have the option to click through on your news feed, so if you don't care about the info, why would anyone click through? This has always confused me about fanboys/haters. If news about Apple/Android is going to just piss you off/confirm your bias, why read it?

29. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

because then there would be nothing to bitch about!!!!!!

37. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

My dislike of apple comes from being against their bloodthirsty legal motives and several other things like minimal upgrades each year but promising the world,charging customers for a what is the legal right of a 2 year warranty,and things like refusing to admit products faults. Working in the phone industry and dealing with the daily influx of iphone problems and faults and the general poor ifan mentality of ''what do you mean my phone is faulty or outside the warranty,its AN IPHONE i paid a lot for this,it cant be faulty'' its an experience in itself

40. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

and why do you care. you dont buy their products.. you should go demand Adroid instead of spending too much time in Apple articles..

43. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

Did you read my comment correctly,i dont buy apple products but we sell apple products so like it or lump it the ifan syndrome is a daily experience we cannot avoid unfortunately.Thankfully our android sales outnumber iphone sales at least 3 or 4 : 1 so its becoming a lesser pain than it was a few years ago when android was only in its early stages

44. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

"so its becoming a lesser pain than it was a few years ago when android was only in its early stages" and why are you becoming a bigger pain then.. if everything is going well on your world why are you on EVERY Apple article..

54. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

But that still begs the question, if you aren't the one buying the Apple device, what does it matter to you? Let other people learn on their own if they prefer Apple or Android. Your job is to explain the difference and let the consumer choose. If they choose Apple, it doesn't affect you, it's their choice. If it turns out badly, theoretically they learn and don't make it again. That's life.

46. Mandroid

Posts: 209; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

Shaddup, drone.

47. Mandroid

Posts: 209; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

Shaddup, drone.

53. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

Unfortunately, I have to side with galito on some of your concerns. You have my support on being against Apple's "bloodthirsty legal motives" although as I pointed out last time, we have to see if those motives continue past the current batch of lawsuits. However, all of your other concerns ring hollow to me. If you don't like Apple products and practices regarding the sale and use of those products, don't buy them. If you follow that rule, it doesn't matter what Apple releases, because it doesn't affect you.

64. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i think the problem is that apple does all these underhanded things and never gets called on them, except from all of us "crazy ihaters". If it wasnt for people constantly reminding others of Apple's constant atrocities from minor things like false shortages and gouging people for a warranty that is legally required anyways.. to their abysmal and slave like conditions at their manufacturing partner's factories, people would be happy to shove it under a rug and forget about it. Its bad enough that Apple constantly gets credit for "inventing" or "revolutionizing" when they do neither. Apple is no different than HTC. They make software in house and over lay it on hardware that others develop. Yet we never hear how HTC "invented" the crapdragon chip or anything of the sort. I get all sorts of crap from Gallito and other notorious iNuts about my stand against Foxconn. Yet those nuts dont realize that its not just about apple, its about an industry, one that I am heavily invested in as a consumer, so even if i dont like apple, it still affects me. You go after the head of the snake.. and that head, profit wise, is Apple. So in short, yea even if you dont buy an apple product, what they do can affect you.

67. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

So how come when ifans criticed Android you guys get up on arms... if you like give.. be prepared to take it...

76. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

your trying that "hypocrisy" crap on the wrong person, chicken head. Unlike you and most of the other board members, i get up in every company's grille when they do something stupid. Who called out samsung for cheating benchmark numbers? Me, one of the biggest lovers of samsung tech on the site. Who called out MS for their working conditions when their slaves (who get paid nearly double compared to Apple's slaves) threatened mass suicide for better conditions? Me. Who is apathetic and wants to put their head in the sand over anything? You.

79. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

remix I dont like sand in the first place..and when I said Android guys.. i use plural.. so don't you get your kermit head in the sand :-)

81. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

I'd like to believe my track record shows that I call out all sides on BS. Of course, I'd also like to believe that my track record shows that I give credit where it's due as well, which somehow gets me far more dissenting voices than calling BS.

66. Tarzan

Posts: 63; Member since: Feb 26, 2012

Ok call me an Apple hater but I certainly don't hate any other OS out there, my profile is a proof of it. My last comment was not against Phone Arena or you, but was a genuine frustration. You subscribe to a blog/news feed to read all sort of articles not just one particular product/brand. If I want to read just about Apple/Android/WP I'd subscribe to their particular blogs, but even on a major player like PA you look at the Home Page and there's 75% Apple related news. I reckon the biggest success of Apple is not its technology or design or products but the hype it creates when launching every year, cuz just every blog out there jumps on its band wagon.

82. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

If you look at PA's homepage in the wake of the iPad announcement, of course you'll see 75% Apple related news. However, if you take a look right this minute, on a relatively normal news day, the skew is more towards Android than anything else. There are sites that claim to cover everything, but skew towards Apple (like BGR), but I think we do a fine job here at keeping it balanced (when possible). Obviously there will be a skew towards Android during things like CES and MWC (which I don't remember anyone mentioning), and there will be a skew towards Apple when it makes an announcement (which I ALWAYS have to hear about.) We're fair around here. I just ask the same from the readers (although I know better than to expect it.)

31. ilia1986 unregistered

Awesome article, Michael. You truly have calmed me down. However the main problem I see is the fact that the world today is meant to work with PCs. Not mobile devices. People use Disk-on-keys, plug in their digital cameras, download and install programs from the web (and not from an app store), connect the PC easily (read: via an HDMI\VGA cable) to an HDTV\projector\second monitor, download and use files from the web, upload files to the web, etc etc etc. All these things require either a PC, OR an Android device (a very well equipped Android device, but still). And here's the thing. Google built Android undestanding the needs of the people - the needs I described above. Google built Android to exist in a PC world. Not in a post-PC world. We ARE NOT in a post-PC world yet. We live in the present - and not in the future. And thus - Android - unlike iOS - can do all the above-mentioned things - while iOS cannot. You say that the difference between iOS and Android in terms of capability is only 2%? But how can that be when I already described a few dozen very common activities which only PCs and Android devices can do?? In order for iOS - and even Android - to take the leading spot in computing hardware - the world must change from a PC world as it is today - to a post-PC world as has been described several times by numerous people in the industry. We can't afford ourselves to use primarily post PC deivces in a PC world. And if we can - at least make those devices run Android.

55. MichaelHeller

Posts: 2734; Member since: May 26, 2011

The world has been meant to work with PCs, but that is quickly changing with the growth of the cloud. Besides, everything that you mentioned is available on the iPad as well, although you need adapters. Those who need the use of usb keys or HDMI/VGA connectivity, or digital cameras with their iPads can do that if they want. You may prefer Android for its built-in versatility (as I do), but most people probably don't need those functions, so they aren't built-in to an iPad. But, just because the port isn't standard doesn't mean the functionality isn't there.
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