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Apple wins injunction against Motorola in Germany over patent covering "rubber-banding"

0. phoneArena posted on 13 Sep 2012, 21:49

Apple's patent covering the so-called over-scroll bounce effect, has been infringed upon by Google's wholly-owned Motorola Mobility according to a court in Germany; using stock Android would be a valid workaround since it uses a "glow" effect...

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posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:29 1

24. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 470; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


So you are bold face lying! If you can read, please come back after doing so and say they don't make charitable contributions. Android loyalists, fighting the good fight for their daddy Google. Talk about sheep! SMH.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:55 1

28. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

And I'm guessing you're going to support Apple by buying the iPhone 5 even though any phone that has been released since last year is better than it, correct?

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:08

31. Hallucinator (Posts: 387; Member since: 24 May 2010)

To you I'm sure any Android phone that comes out is better than the iPhone 5 and that is perfectly fine. However if someone does not like Android and prefers iOS and iPhones that should be fine also. Unless you are one of the sheep that other Android users call iPhone users, but I'm sure you are a very open minded and intelligent individual and that's not the case.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:21 1

38. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Where in my post do you see any Android phone? I said ANY phone, which includes the Lumia 900.

Learn how to read before you make a fool of yourself.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:14 3

34. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

wow. way to stretch it. Apple's "donations" if you read it right were from their "Project Red" co branded ipods. They promised to give a "portion" of the proceeds to project red if you bought an ipod. So instead of the usual 40%, they only got 35% (or more)... yaaay.

There was ZERO contributions while jobs was there other than project red which was just another ploy to make them money. There has been a "employee contribution charity" that Cook added after SJ died.

Also, notice that the next most valuable company, Exxon, gives nearly 200 million a year.. not 50 million over 30 years from the sale of specially marked ipods.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:49 1

46. housecat (Posts: 8; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

Haha. Nice article to use to support your argument. Apple donates 0.1 percent of what it has to charity. POINT ONE percent!!! Pretty fn lame for world's most valuable company.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 00:04

47. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I will say I didnt know that...and thats good. +1 for Apple. Still doesnt compare to what Bill Gates does with his money. But it is good for Apple.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 04:54

61. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 533; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

@Tre-Nitty. 1st, "bold face lying" would imply I knew this and said the opposite - this is simply not true. Also agree with what Remixfa said. 0.1% - from one of the worlds most valuable companies, who have the highest gross margins in the industry? come on.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:00 3

5. wendygarett (unregistered)

I don't understand why Apple wanna ban because of the rubber band....

What is rubber band anyway...

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:01 4

6. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

It's an effect at the end of the list where the list "bounces."

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:11 6

14. wendygarett (unregistered)

Didn't even realise that effect... Thanks sniggly
Sorry Apple, that patent is invalid...

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:04 1

7. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

lol..well....I just hope every Android manufacture has patents on their features, icons, ect.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:07 6

10. Aeires (unregistered)

Apple is calling for all devices found to be infringing on the patent to be destroyed. Yes, destroyed, not banned. And Apple has gone way to far this time. Seriously.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:21 2

20. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

What can be done to stop that rooten company.....?
Let's all over the world boycott Apple!

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:36 1

44. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

Trust me that won't happen anytime soon. Until the sheep remain, Apple remains.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:09 2

11. SvbZero (Posts: 27; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)

Mark my words.. Your day is coming! Money is the root of all evil.. And you're at the top of that list APPLE . I can't wait

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:10 3

12. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I thought this was odd from Alan F.:"For Android users, this does not do the job as well as the bounce does."

Says who? I just made a post where I said I didn't like it....when my Droid 1 was my main phone in 2010.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:10 4

13. SvbZero (Posts: 27; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)

Mark my words.. Your day is coming! Money is the root of all evil.. And you're at the top of that list APPLE! I can't wait

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:18 1

18. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:20 2

19. SvbZero (Posts: 27; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)

Greed comes with a price! There are men women & children starving in the world.. And this is how you spend your money? Pathetic

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 22:23 3

21. ScottSchneider (Posts: 336; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)

I know that each and every person in this world will have their change to screw back Apples @$$ back when the time comes... not every ball thrown upwards goes into space.. It WILL come down one day... and that day ppl... We will see each and every single company trying to get a piece of that Apple... Very Soon.. Very Soon...

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:01 2

29. Friendlysky (Posts: 54; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

I can't wait to see someone come along an after Apple and strip them out from the business. You win one they get 10 from apple and make sure will be no more apple. what a joke cook said will have more job for the US. That is a lies for the US consumer to buy their Iphone 5.

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:23 1

40. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)

Oh for the love of god, they have a patent for THAT? Is the goal of Apple to patent all eligible technology and features so that they are the only ones that can use it? Way to be competitive, Apple. Take everything for yourself and prove that Apple is nothing but a power-hungry, overzealous tech glutton that can't survive unless it dominates everything.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 00:08

48. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

The sad thing is...I just posted how in that Woz article about how in Android land, the OEMs copy from each other all the time....without all the fighting n crying.

Why does it seem like Apple is the only ones crying?

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 05:57 1

62. Aeires (unregistered)

Because they are the only one crying.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 01:14

52. temporallobe9 (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)

I am by now means a "techy". I have used all phones and pc and gaming devices from Mac, pc, Xbox, playstation, LG, Samsung, htc, blackberry etc. I really don't care to much about the whole "Mac vs pc, apple vs android" stuff. I am currently looking at a new smartphone and my research has shown for my specific needs a Galaxy note II will do nicely.

What I am trying to understand on the patents is basically something like a "screen bounce" is a collection of code. This code was developed by someone and is very specific and has a set of numbers that are specific to that function. So did Samsung actually " copy and paste" that codex? If that is the case then that is like printing off an exact duplicate of say a sports teams logo, or making a duplicate "Nike" symbol. But how would that duplicate codex work in a different platform?

What I mean is are the programming language of Samsung and apple the same? Again I don't much but are they both like "Linux" or are they " c++" again I'm sorry if my references don't make sense I am just trying to understand. I mean ford and mitsubishi both make cars with four doors, seats and doors and windshield wipers. So is that what were talking about or did they actually make a carbon copy duplicate of a ford and change the bumper sticker?

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 02:00 1

54. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4785; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

I'm not entirely sure, but when reading the patents, they're not actually patenting the code, but the action that is performed and the outcome. I had always heard that you can't patent an action, but apparently with enough money behind you, you can.

What you are describing is the way the patent system should work. By patenting the actual software code, that allows someone else to come up with different code that allows the same function. But by patenting the action & outcome, no one else can have that functionality, even if what it takes to make it happen is different. It's precisely why an overhaul of the patent system is needed. It's also why when deciding these things in court, the people deciding it should be able to grasp what's going on. A jury of everday people is fine for things that happen in everyday life, but for things that require a technical mind to reason it out, they should have a panel of people that have some experience in these matters, not a bunch of people off the street that weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.

I have a technical background (electronic engineering), but I don't think I could say that I would've been the right person to be in the jury either, simply because I don't have a background in computers, which is what the apple/samsung trial was about. But, unlike the people on that jury, I would've understood the ramifications of the outcome of that trial. It was a lot farther reaching than punishing one company for copying. It was about being able to patent every nut & bolt, shape & color, and every little corner of the OS, to the point that anything remotely similar is something to sue over and use that litigation to shape the landscape of the mobile industry. But that's just my opinion.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 02:01 2

55. whencatsruletheworld (Posts: 16; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)

Sorry Apple, after your announcement of the iPhone 5, lots of people are queueing to get the Samsung Galaxy S3 instead.

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 04:13

59. chenweiweasel (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Aug 2010)

Why Germans love to help Apple so much!

posted on 14 Sep 2012, 14:27

67. Googlethis (Posts: 179; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Germany usualy sides with the patent holder in this case apple is the patent holder therefore they are the company that will win in this case. I personaly think that the patent should not of been awarded.

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