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Apple wins case against Samsung in the Netherlands

0. phoneArena posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:04

Patent battles between Apple and Samsung are taking place on several arenas throughout the world, and a Dutch court in the city of The Hague is exactly one of them. Those who keep a close eye on things...

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posted on 24 Aug 2011, 14:31

100. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You're not very bright and that's why you don't get it.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 15:15 3

115. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

lol, at least my lightbulb is on upstairs.. you dont even have one screwed in. What an iDiot iTurd.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:55 3

26. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

I want to see competition this is a very bad decision. They do copy the iPhone but I rather just see a fine or something. A large one at that.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:01 5

28. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)

biophone, that is reasonable & makes sense. No competition is bad for the mobile industry. Banning products is just plain stupid!

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:07

31. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

I Agree 100 percent.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:40 5

51. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)

Which only proves Apple doesn't care about it's customers, only it's bottom line. But isn't it the customers that give you that bottom line?

I just don't understand how any reasonable adult in America living in todays financial times could give money to a company that wants to make the financial outlook of a country worse than it is now.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:42 3

54. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

damm i agree too..

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:02 1

29. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

this is not gonna stop them as Samsung is already on a workaround, and will continue sellinghttp://goo.gl/A5EiG and you really want competition to be gone? you know that will halt the way things are going?

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:04

30. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

also Google has found some patents on Motorola that could make things interestinghttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/motorola-s-value-for-google-found-in-18-patents-used-against-apple-tech.html

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:31 2

47. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)

Fandroids will as usual backpedal and say "competition" is good. Yeah, sure it is. But copying someone else's design isn't competing. It's patent infringement.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:45 2

56. waveydavey (unregistered)

Unless, of course, said patents protect ideas as vague and far reaching as those involved here. Everyone who knows anything about patents agrees that these types of broad patents hurt innovation and prohibit variety in the market.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:55 3

60. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

As Apple starts to win legal battles - HTC here in the States, the Netherlands now- it is becoming more and more apparent that these handsets are violating Apple. Kinda hard to keep fighting the good fight when you are losing. Samsung needs to fix these things, HTC needs to work out a compromise, Motorola needs to deal with Microsoft, and we can all go back to tech talk instead of legal speak.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 12:53 4

71. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)

Who copied who.

The first touchscreen phone was the IBM Simon, launched in 1992. During this decade the popular iPaq (not made by Apple by the way) was launched with touchscreens and optional phone attachments. HTC, the leader in touchscreen phones up until the iPhone and makers of phones like the Nexus One launched their first touchscreen phone, the HTC Wallaby aka XDA in 2002. Apple did actually make a concept for a touchscreen phone (not a mobile, a regular landline phone) way back in 1984!

Read more:http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_the_first_touch_screen_phone_invented#ixzz1VyDlspc1

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 14:32

101. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Get over yourself Apple won! Apple would not win if they didn't have a legitimate case.

Deal with it!

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 14:47 3

104. daveywavey (unregistered)

You are incredibly naive. By this logic, OJ was not guilty, the guys at Enron did nothing wrong, and common criminals aren't guilty because of legal technicalities. Maybe if you left your computer long enough to form an original thought, you'd realize that.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 14:51

106. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Well considering Apple is winning multiple patent cases and any reasonable person can see the copying I'd say I'm not naive at all.

The problem is this website is full of andrones who bash Apple constantly for everything and refuse to give them any credit. Apple won the case. Game over.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 15:13 2

114. daveywavey (unregistered)

I think you'll find my commentary to be quite the opposite of one sided. You may, however, want to take a look at your ridiculous, inflammatory language in the clear light of your poingnant observation.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 16:45 3

137. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Taco, international law is not american law. the standards of proof are not the same. If it had a strong case, the american courts wouldnt have thrown out apples request to ban samsung products in america.

apple won on a small thread of code that is easily updatable and fixable and samsung already said they are going to push an update long before the october deadline.

do you actually read or do u just talk to hear your own voice? lol

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:24 9

8. Moo (unregistered)

Apple has turned into another Micro$oft.

Apple are the rebels against IBM, M$

Yea sure

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:25 10

9. serious (unregistered)

Wow Apple.. just wow.

keep this up and Apple will eventually see their consumers get angry.. people in general like to see the underdog win.. the "good guys" victorious.

Apple will be seen as a terrible entity trying to dominate using dirty means.. regardless if it's within their right or not, the public won't like it and Apple will fall.

They make awesome hardware and are great phones, they should be focusing on innovation, not these pathetic methods of trying to prevent competition.

I will NEVER buy another Apple product... not for me, not for my kids.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:26 8

10. ChiquiKon (Posts: 58; Member since: 26 Jul 2011)

Nexus Prime you might be the next one :( ...... go ahead and get lawyers NOW!

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:33

48. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

nexus prime might come with a workaround already

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:26 8

11. Fayez (unregistered)

the point here that many people ignore is that samsung won case against 2 patents and lost one 1.

Samsung has already announced that they will soon be releasing small update for galaxy s, galaxy s2 and ace that will have different scrolling mechanism and photo management.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:27 4

12. Moo (unregistered)


Why are you confusing people with facts?

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:36 3

18. ChiquiKon (Posts: 58; Member since: 26 Jul 2011)

Read the Update part here: http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/24/netherlands-judge-rules-that-samsung-galaxy-s-s-ii-violate-appl/

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:32 2

14. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)

Has it been confirmed that Apple's case is based on Samsung's Touchwiz and not general Android stock features?

If it is touchwiz... Then o-boy don't feel too sorry for them, since they did it to themselves and at any point could have changed them. If it was Android to blame, then it would really suck to be Samsun, stuck between and rock and a hard place.

I am guessing they have updates ready to send out, in case they lost the UI patent cases.

The question will be how long will it take for Samsung to reverse the order?

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:36 2

17. jura21 (Posts: 30; Member since: 20 Jun 2011)

both android and samsung....coz its about the lockscreen (touchwiz has a custom one) and gallery app(core android 2.3 feature)...however,now with the honeycomb gallery app,the judge ruled no infringement, so samsung just have to put the honeycomb(or any other gallery app) on their phones

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 10:41 6

22. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Do tell me please just how Touchwiz resembles iOS? Please do - I am anxious to hear - how this:


Resembles this:


Or maybe it's Android?


Do tell kind sir.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:11 1

35. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

The app drawer in touchwiz looks like apple's home screen. I dont care if it is displayed in a different part of the phone and not in the home screen it still looks like the ios verison.

posted on 24 Aug 2011, 11:20 3

40. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Oh ok. Essentially you're saying that this:


looks like this:


Well holy crap! How about that?


This also looks a lot like it! Maybe Apple should sue Nokia?

Or that?


Or that?


See? I don't think that Apple owns a patent for A FRIKKEN GRID OF ICONS. And if they did - it would have been UTTERLY RIDICULOUS. Just like their claims are for patent infringement.

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