Apple to join the Television ad battle on AT&T's behalf with two spots tonight

With a couple of ads that will be sure to turn up the heat a notch, Apple jabs the Verizon network's inability to do voice and data at the same time...
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34. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

It's only a misfit toy due to the network. The phone itself was actually...GASP...praised for what (the phone) is/was able to do. And you can't expect a MAJOR partner like Apple, to just sit idley by, and watch as ATT gets its ass handed to them in the advertising arena. Point in fact is that I was in an Apple store not too long ago, looking at a new computer, and picked up an iPhone to play around with for a bit. A salesman came over and started talking with me, and he and I consequently got into how VZW should carry the iPhone (the only way I'll ever own one). He made some claim that a dude was "just in here" and traded in his BB for an iPhone, and how the iPhone actually had more bars inside the store than his old BB. So I told him I loved the phone (as I love Apple products) but that I thought it was essentially crippled with ATTs network and gave him reasons why (all of which I've mentioned on here time and time again), to which he actually said, "Well, I know, but we're not allowed to speak ill of our major partners." LOL! I couldn't believe what I was hearing! Here was a dude that tried to pitch me a product and when he found out I knew my shit, he essentially conceded my point w/o directly confirming it, (because he wasn't allowed), that ATT has some serious flaws on their side of the iPhone partnership! I almost started laughing out loud!

43. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

I never once said that AT&T was the best. I actually think AT&T is holding Apple back. And I hate almost all Apple products. I was actually surprised with myself when I first bought my iPhone. What I'm saying is that if the iPhone wasn't shown or mentioned once in any of Verizon's commercials (especially the misfit toy one), then I'm pretty sure Apple just wouldn't come out of nowhere with this commercial.

55. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

And I agree whole heartedly with your comment. But I think that what these new commercials prove, is that Apple knows VZW wasn't attacking the iPhone directly; it is the network the iPhone is on; thus the "can your phone and network do that?". In fact, I would venture to say that if anything, it's these new commercials that are a misrepresentation. I've visited a Mac website, and in the comments section of this same story, there are people who think, based on these commercials, that simultaneous voice and data is a magical wonder APPLE created, with their genious iPhone! This is an example of the "average/normal" phone user. They have absolutely ZERO clue about cell networks or the tech involved! It cracks me up on some of the Mac websites, how devoted to their iPhone some users can be, w/o even having a remote clue what really goes into making it work!

60. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

This is a little funny to me because we're not agreeing on much and I don't think we will. But anyways, I don't think that Apple thinks that Verizon is not attacking their phone. If this was just strictly between AT&T and Verizon, this commercial would look so retarted. But when I read the headline of this article, I felt Apple's response was a little over due. There has been talk of iphone killing for years, but I think that Apple is taking the biggest beating right now. From the iDon't to DroidDoes (I know this commercial is made produced by Motorola but it still received the Verizon logo at the end which basically means "I am Verizon and I support this message"), to the "there's a map for that," and now the holiday commercials including the misfit toy. If you've noticed, there has always been talk of an iphone killer, but this is the first time that Apple has responded. If the iphone was in T-mobile, I bet all these commercials would be directed towards T-mobile and not AT&T. I'm pretty sure Verizon's map is better than T-mobile's map too. How come there's no commercial saying there's a sidekick for that. And yeah there are idiots who actually worship the iphone and don't really know anything. But there are extremes in every case. For example, whenever I say something positive about Verizon, I get positive points. But whenever I say something negative about Verizon and/or positive about iphone, I (usually) get negative points. And going a little off topic, these same stupid people are the people that AT&T is worried about. They probably know that their 3G sucks, but they also know that there are a lot of stupid people out there that might beleive they won't have any data connection at all if they live in the white areas in AT&Ts map.

61. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

Adding to stupid people, a girl once asked me if I had the iphone 3G, 8G, or 16G.

69. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Ha! yeah that is pretty funny. But that's also why VZW displayed the fact that EDGE was available outside of the blue areas. I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Thanks for at least sticking to your guns...there are a lot of people that roll over at the first sign of disagreeance.

9. hkphooey

Posts: 35; Member since: Oct 18, 2009

Verizon should have had a commercial... Say you see something cool and take a picture of it....Say you want to send it to your friend... you can easily send an MMS. Can YOUR iPhone do that? (yeah iPhone gets MMS NOW...after how many years? FAIL)

16. baldilocks

Posts: 1485; Member since: Dec 14, 2008

Once again, your point makes no sense.

25. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

They should've, but they didn't. Oh well. You should talk about what they should advertise and not what they should've.

10. tuminatr

Posts: 1116; Member since: Feb 23, 2009

this will soon be false advertising see cdma simultaneous voice and data also with AT&T to make a simultaneous voice and data call you need to be in a 3g area and that makes Verizon's adds even stronger

21. artz1986

Posts: 453; Member since: Mar 11, 2009

but how many ppl know that? how many adverage consumers know the difference between 3g and 2g? how many of them even knows what 3g is? These commercials [Vzw's & Apple's] are cool, but they cater to the kids who know a lil something about these wireless technologies, meaning, they're both pretty ineffective if the argument is who's technology is better. Though, Apple's commercial is more marketable seeing how it still shows ease of use. [a bit of topic] this is why the iPhone is still king, because it's straight forward...

23. *HOVA*

Posts: 564; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Lies. Take out your Verizon phone, call someone, then try to get on the internet while on the call. You CAN'T. I don't have 3G where I live and I get on the internet while on the phone with my iPhone. Know your role and shut your hole.

29. artz1986

Posts: 453; Member since: Mar 11, 2009 you smell what the Rock [up down left right] is cooking...

36. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Didn't you mention in an earlier post to another article that your iPhone is, in fact, "jailbroken"; and that also due to that fact, you've had MMS capabilities on your iPhone from the start? So I could be wrong, but could having a jailbroken iPhone be a reason that your iPhone is able to do that on EDGE? Just curious...I don't know everything...yet:)

37. vzw fanman

Posts: 1977; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

i just did. called my friend, wanted me to go to a porn website, and it worked while i was talking to him.

44. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

You were probably on wi-fi

46. vzw fanman

Posts: 1977; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

haha ya.

48. hkphooey

Posts: 35; Member since: Oct 18, 2009

That's right! Hova is RIGHT! He can suck dick, grab ass and play with his dingleberry while on a call and surf the web on his iPhone! You are da man Hova! Wo says iPhone doesn't have multitasking?

49. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

hey, that works I guess.

62. sinfulta

Posts: 279; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

That's funny because on My Iphone 3GS in my house (Which only get's EDGE btw, No 3G here) You cannot make a phone call and use data at the same time. I live in the middle of San Diego. Go figure.

13. InstinctDemon

Posts: 74; Member since: Nov 09, 2009

So, I guess the iPhone is defiantly NOT coming to Verizon anytime soon, eh?

14. hkphooey

Posts: 35; Member since: Oct 18, 2009

I think the iPhone Mini is still coming to Verizon...if the rumors are true. I think Verizon execs and Apple execs are actually enjoying the "friendly" jibes at each other....AT&T execs.....not so much

17. baldilocks

Posts: 1485; Member since: Dec 14, 2008

Good. I don't want my iPhone to have big red bars on top with Buy It Now as the first Icon.

27. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

haha, I guess. I was kind of hoping that it was though. More people that buy, more quality apps for me. And most of my family has Verizon so I probably would have switched. I guess I'm stuck on AT&T for a while.

35. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

I'll bet it's still out Q3 of 2010. This commercial just highlights one, if not the only "pro" to the iPhone being on ATTs network. See my above comment, #34.

30. Imallvol7

Posts: 5; Member since: May 22, 2009

I don't get the big deal over talking and surfing at the same time. Who uses this feature? Why is it brought up in every 3G vs EVDO discussion?

32. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

I guess because people use it

38. Jyakotu

Posts: 867; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

It's actually nice to see Apple defending AT&T. Sure, the average consumer doesn't really use that talk and surf feature all the time, but I'm sure a business person does. But it's really nice to see Verizon customers defend their network so strongly. I'm an AT&T customer and I've had nothing but good service. But, how about some of the other manufacturer's show off this feature? For example, HTC should show off the Tilt 2.

45. bubbasixx

Posts: 30; Member since: Apr 09, 2008

To put it kindly, AT&T does not care about any other phone than the iPhone. Sure the Bold 9700 just came out but they won't be a game changer. The iPhone was, and still is, AT&T's meat, potatos and dessert. There are no doubt some great phones on AT&T but they do not sell nearly as many as the iPhone. AT&T is smart. They will market what markets best. You have a good idea but it just falls on deaf ears.

56. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Truer words were never spoken!
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