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Apple says it would pay $1 per Apple iPhone to Motorola to license FRAND patents

0. phoneArena posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:07

Attorneys representing Apple have told a U.S. District Court in Wisconsin that the Cupertino based tech titan would be willing to pay up to $1 per iPhone for the right to license some standards-essential patents; if the court orders Apple to pay more than $1, the company says it will fight...

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posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:34 11

13. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Awfully hypocritical of you Mxy. It's not fair for Samsung to have to pay Apple all that money for some bull**** rectangle patent, or some more bs "slide to unlock" patent. You sir, are the one that isn't being fair.

All of this patent litigation crap isn't fair b/c it all hurts us, the consumers.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 20:11 3

23. GeekMovement (unregistered)


I'm not surprised. Mxyzptik is always full of the most illogical statements. Full 110% Apple worshiper no matter what they do. Blind fool.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:03 1

36. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


I was thinking the same about the difference is he is might be blind and you are in denial

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 00:49 2

55. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


In denial over what? The vast majority of the patent lawsuits are the result of overly broad patents and/or patents that relate to things that aren't selling points. Rectangular shape? Yeah, most TVs are rectangular yet they aren't suing each other stupid over that. Slide to unlock? Yeah, don't think anyone is buying a phone b/c of that either.

With what the judgement against Samsung was(the $$ amount), $1 per phone for multiple patents from Motorola is just plain ridiculous.

I could care less what OS people prefer. What I do care about is insane behavior of companies like Apple regarding dumb sh*t like this. If the roles were flipped, I bet Apple would laugh at Motorola and ask for at least $10 a phone, and that is shooting low most likely.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 04:26 2

58. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)


The key word is fair. Hence, Apple has to pay a fair price.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:27 10

9. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


A dollar. A f**king dollar. What a joke.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:34

12. wendygarett (unregistered)


Moto is in trouble for selling his device recently, and Apple found this opportunity to threaten moto to accept $1 or faced the loss...

I personally think Apple should add more few dollars to moto, or donate to the poor... I confess that Apple is stingy when it comes to money...

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 19:50 3

18. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)


It's no joke Sniggly. They shouldn't be paying them anything at all since this is a FRAND patent.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 20:05 13

20. medicci37 (Posts: 1331; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


@ Mxyzptlk Just because it's a FRAND patent, does not mean Apple can use it 4 free. Learn the law dumbass

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 21:07 4

28. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


don't mind him. he is just mad that the new Androids coming out will murk any iDevices for the next 2 years at least.
Plus, it's Apple, they can do no wrong in his eyes.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:06 1

38. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


says someone that thinks the Nexus 4 is an innovating device...

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:25 2

43. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Well it does really unique things.... just saying

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:36 2

59. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


I didn't say it was innovating, but then again neither was the 4S/4stretch, the iPod maxi/maxiplus either.
I'm saying that it's better than anything else on the market right now.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 09:14 1

62. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


I gotta disagree man. The Nexus 4 would have to be able to drive my car to be better than anything else on the market now without LTE. I'm sure it's cool, but no LTE man.....c'mon.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 10:01 1

64. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


fair enough, no LTE, but no problem, T-Mobile's HSPA+ is pretty speedy when I was in the USA, and when I'm in the UK, 3's network is sooo speedy, I don't really recognise if it's 3G or not.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 10:24

66. androiddownsouth (Posts: 598; Member since: 02 May 2012)


Yeah, where I live, Tmo is pretty awful, so they aren't an option for me lol. If it works great for you then sweet man. Different solutions for different ppl.=)

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 17:45

72. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


aah well... I get full bars where I live, but yeah I understand T-mobile's signal issues :/

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 10:03 1

65. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


although I do get what you mean, but you can see that LTE just messes up the Nexus (look at Verizon and Sprint, the international S3 got JB before the VZW Nexus. )

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 17:57

73. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Like the iPhone 5 was innovative....:/

Innovation can only go so far. At some point companies will hit a wall. Technology will hit a wall. If an innovation means a worse user experience, dont add it.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:05 1

37. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


thats why they offered a 1$ with taxes included

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 21:49 2

34. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Just report him for trolling and move on, he is clearly just attempting to bait everyone and should receive a nice permaban.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:17 1

41. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)


he does what everyone else does here in Apple articles, The same rules should apply to Apple haters whom opinion is not requested in every Apple article

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:58 2

46. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Correction, everyone doesnt do that in Apple articles.

Fanboys, trolls dont represent the entire user base, those who comment ....for Apple, Android, WP, anybody.

And having an opinion isnt bad, its how that opinion is presented that causes problems.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 23:52 1

51. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)


Android fans are no different since they always go onto Apple articles and insult Apple fans while nothing happens.

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 07:10 2

61. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I take it you didnt even read the post you responded too....

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 06:57 2

60. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


That is a good line of defense Gallito, I am going to go out on a limb and say he is your troll account and you don't want him banned? I don't expect a whole lot from you given your post history, but the defense "They did it first?" This isn't a free and open discussion forum and posting the same exact statement 3 times under one topic is ridiculous. Especially when you know your statement is wrong.

I also strongly disagree with the idea of FRAND in the first place as it certainly does hurt competition more than it helps it. Especially when you have a company like Apple who can essentially (and it is obvious by their bullying tone) buy any single case they wish or bully the judge to give them any result they wish.

The moment you can tell me why a patent such as "rounded corners" is worth $1 Billion dollars but real technology must go into a big pool where everyone can use it and in some cases use it constantly over and over and tell the patent holder to essentially f**k off, I will kiss your feet.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 22:24 7

42. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


How many times must it be explained to you that the legal definition of FRAND is that there's a limit to the allowable royalties on such patents, NOT that royalties can't be charged at all?

The law doesn't rewrite itself to comply with your idiocy, Mxy.

posted on 31 Oct 2012, 23:54 1

52. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)


So you justify Motorola trying to go after royalties from Apple with FRAND patents just because Microsoft busted them for infringing on several of their patents?

posted on 01 Nov 2012, 00:06 5

53. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so you would be OK with Samsung paying $1 per phone found to be infringing on apple's patents then right? Samsung says they should only pay $1, then it should only be $1 right?

posted on 02 Nov 2012, 20:20

75. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)


That would not be ok. Samsung copied many ideas from Apple especially in their earlier phones.

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