Apple says difference in the battery life of TSMC and Samsung made A9 chips is only 2% to 3%

Amid talk that the A9 chipset produced by TSMC offers much more battery life than the one manufactured by Samsung, Apple released a statement this afternoon that says the difference in battery life between the two chips on the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus is no more than 2% to 3%. Samsung's version of the A9 chip is made using the 14nm FinFET process, while TSMC uses the 16nm FinFET process...
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58 Comments

29. darkkjedii

Posts: 30833; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

You're, not "your".

37. discharge unregistered

LMAO!!!!!!!

42. Topcat488

Posts: 1411; Member since: Sep 29, 2012

Sorry for you this time darkk... NOT. But discharge had it right... It's "YOUR" not you're! O.o

54. darkkjedii

Posts: 30833; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Post 15 dumb ass, re read it. I actually thought you were smart... NOT! O.o

57. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Damn darkkjedii... People be trolling you hard... Guys he is right... It's You're not your... http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/blog/english-mistakes/your-vs-youre/ SMH +1

60. darkkjedii

Posts: 30833; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

It never ends SAE. I just don't get it lol. +1 bro.

30. 8ozchickenbreast unregistered

Riight?!! Benchmarks of it match the Macbook Air. Cant wait for SD820 and A10 next year.

11. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

fRaGmAtAtIoN aT iTs FiNeSt

12. taeyax82

Posts: 4; Member since: Aug 27, 2015

The performance is the faster on samsung and real battery life is the same on both youtube.com/watch?v=vQgu9xTspfU youtube.com/watch?v=fde15ih0N2o

17. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

I am glad my work phone is the Samsung one. Hopefully IOS 10 makes use of the 14nm process and smaller chip if IOS9 doesn't. It could also be that since the chip is physically smaller, there might be a gap where it takes the heat longer to reach the heat sink.

14. runzlord

Posts: 245; Member since: Oct 13, 2013

Could apple not have separated the chips between the 6s and 6splus? For example, fix samsung chips in 6s and fix TSMC chips in 6s Plus ?

18. techman82

Posts: 41; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

There's seems to be alot more than 2 or 3% difference between the two in all fairness, that Austin guy that tested the two 6s in geekbench 3 battery test on YouTube showed a difference of 5h 10 mins to 3h 30 mins, the 6 only lasted about 3h 10 min for reference, and if you play a top graphics game you will agree. and also the other guy that ran his REAL WORLD use test showed about a 15% difference in favor of the tsmc chip as well, the people and tests are credible, enough of that, it was the same thing last year with the 6 plus not bending and it did, I'm not a fanboy or troll or anything I do have a 6 and was upgrading to the 6s but if i get Samsung chip 1 I'll be really pissed and will be taking it back

19. techman82

Posts: 41; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

Apple also gave a talk time rating of 14 hours and all tests proved it only gives 8 and half to 9 and half hours!

24. Ninetysix

Posts: 2933; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Alan / PA Which A9 does your test units have?

38. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

Obvi the Samsung 1

48. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

I have the Samsung one. Not bothered by it at all since I get two days out of a single charge. :)

58. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

Lol you are probably crying some sleep tears and having sleepless nights. Not bothered....sure. Lol

32. No_Sammy_No_Gimmicks

Posts: 147; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

So basically they are confirming the results of Geekbench test where there was a 6% variance. If tolerance is 3% it can go either way (-3 or + 3). So one phone can be -3% or the reference mark and the other at +3% giving you a total of 6% difference in the battery life.

39. cheetah2k

Posts: 2185; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

I just love these blogs about how the Samsung A9 is worse than the TSMC A9.. Both chips are using the same architecture (Apple's design) except the Samsung A9 is 14um not 16um. iOS controls the CPU from there so I'm thinking this is nothing more than a Samsung bashing than anything else. LOL

43. hanabi

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

There is 1/16 chance you will get the best iphone: 1. Samsung 14 + mlc + LG ips + Samsung 2GB 2 Samsung 14 + mlc + LG ips + Hynix 2GB . 7. Samsung 14 + tlc + Sharp ips + Hynix 2GB . 10. tsmc 16 +mlc + LG ips +Samsung 2GB . 16. tsmc 16 + tlc + sharp ips + hynix 2GB If tsmc got all the best components and samsung got all the worst, tsmc wins but, if they had same ones, samsung wins typical chinese tactic brainwashing people saying that 16 is better than 14 even tho they can't explain. they will next say their 14 is better than 10 for unknown reasons

44. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

You just made my brain asplode with those chances...goddam goddam Now fans gonna be bringing checklists when they're verifying their purchase of the new phone there LOL

46. kryme

Posts: 468; Member since: Oct 24, 2013

Wow wen I think about it.. I'm sure Apple knew the Samsung chip didn't last as long as the other chip... Hehe maybe Apple design the chips that way so they can let the fans hate Samsung more and want the other company chips instead.... Damn Apple is an evil genius.. They kno no matter what the fan gonna buy the phones so letting one perform better than the other would mean the media will say Samsung chips r no good.... Smart move Apple

47. nahusiv

Posts: 100; Member since: Apr 20, 2015

is not, Apple lying again

52. Shocky unregistered

Apple screwed up, it's their design and their responsibly. They would have known about this long before release and should have gone with a single supplier and process to ensure no complications.

53. boosook

Posts: 1442; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

iphone users are used to low battery life, where's the problem? it won't make any difference for them: they'll have to recharge at lunchtime anyway.

56. Tuxedo

Posts: 356; Member since: Mar 19, 2013

Interesting that even with a bigger "less efficient" fab process, TSMC chip manages to offer both better performance and better battery life. Something does not add up here. Is Samsung fab really that bad? Also PA, the difference you saw is only one out of millions of samples out there. Who knows what the results would be for the others.

59. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

You program for the lowest common denominator. Makes sense. Heck, knowing Apple they would be too greedy to make two different brackets for the two different chip sizes. So the bracket probably fits the bugger chip perfectly and is too big for the Samsung one.

62. xfire99

Posts: 1205; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

Weird that no one has named this problem? Well, I have a perfect name for it. Guess what name? #batterigate ^_^
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