Apple says Samsung set a patent timebomb when the 3G standard was created to demand "excessive" royalties

Samsung is suing to stop the sales and marketing of Apple's gizmos, including the iPhone 5, in the Netherlands, but Apple argues it has sneaked in some of its own IP in the 3G standard, so it can patent it later and sue...
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198 Comments

200. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

agree android is moving way too fast but apple is playing catchup none the less...you can also say apple is moving too slow but i do like the fact that they release 1 phone per year until they broke the cycle this year...i personally get a new phone every year the latest,never keep a phone longer than a year cause i get bored especially knowing there are better phones out there.i also dont like to have a phone that gets outdated too quickly which happens too often in android as you pointed out they are moving too fast even for more liking...but thankfully i got the gs2 back in april or may which has been the best phone in my opininon and is still one of the best...i guess with android is picking a phone that will last atleast a year where it doesnt get out dated spec wise.

90. Mike S unregistered

Let's remind ourselves that Apple started these wars. Apple thinks it invented everything. The truth is that they just make things look jazzy. The reality is that Apple has more to suffer from other people coming after Apple for Apple violations than Apple has to gain from them. This is the future of Apple under the new CEO. A company mired in distracting lawsuits worldwide while innovation declines.

104. Jamez unregistered

I don't even like Apple, but the amount of biased hatred on here is beyond nauseating. It's especially amusing when clowns like Rawkin come out and spew nonsense with a "holier than thou" approach. Not sure what the point is, but you're not above anyone just because you can talk s--t on a forum. Frankly I don't even see why there's any incentive in putting on a Samsung jersey and cheering for your team. I'm fairly certain you don't work for them. Competition is good, and I'm happy they're squabbling over patents and other intellectual rubbish. For the record, my comment earlier was a jab at darth8ball's ridiculously lame attempt to physically threaten taco50 through the internet. That kind of stuff is comedy gold...and I'm surprised that dorks still think it works after all these years. He obviously saw the sarcasm in it...not sure why you other dullards took it the other way.

110. Rawkin unregistered

Amusing? I'll take that as a compliment. The amount of fanboyism is nauseating, but moreso than anything else, it's the uneducated comments. If you love Apple and want to bash Android—or if you love Android and want to bash Apple—that is fine by me, but why does no one here do so with facts? Intelligent fanboyism is a lot better, in my opinion, than "shUt tha f**k, you suckin'' Steve Jobs' d**k!" As well, I don't have a Samsung jersey—nor a Samsung product. But I will defend against a company (Apple) that is literally trying to stop competition. How competitive is a market where it's against the law to sell anything other than iPhones? Get real. The fact that you were taking a jab at darth8ball—and therefore defending taco50's stance—is pathetic. Did you read that? Taco50 was obviously instigating that. Did you think darth8ball came out off the bat with, "come here, I'll kick your ass." f**k, why can't you people read? "Yeah, well I live in California, so come get me" is not comic gold. No, really. It's not... seriously. (Just wow.)

125. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

I have never threatened anyone on here. I live in California was in response to him saying he wanted to meet me in person and beat me up. How do you support his position when he was 100% the instigator? Oh yea you're a droidbot.

178. Jamez unregistered

Rawkin, maybe you forgot to put on your glasses. It only takes basic reading comprehension to see that darth8ball instigated the threats of physical violence....all because of a disagreement over phone preference. It really doesn't get any more lame than when someone tries to bully others through forums. Where I'm from, online threats are not only funny, but also the fastest way to assure that you've been defeated in a battle of wits. In the meantime, I've lost track of who has sued who more. There seem to be almost a dozen different lawsuits going on in half a dozen different countries between these 2 giants. You act like Apple is the only party hurling litigation.

107. HTCistheBEST unregistered

You guys are no longer making any sense at all. Stop whining about Apple and Samsung. Both of them are crap. HTC is the BEST.

131. AppleFanboy

Posts: 142; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

Yeah with the EVO 4G that is 4G WiMAX capable .........in select locations while standing on your head .

109. Jesus Christ unregistered

Ok my children, Stop fighting about which one is better between Samsung and Apple. I made those companies to make great products but not perfect products. Cuz no one is perfect except me (of course im a God). They both exist to fill up what each other is lacking. That's why iPhone will work better for someone and not on somebody else. Android can sh*t and Apple will come out of the ass. They are like combos if you know what I mean. So stop it. Coz its not getting any better.

113. Rawkin unregistered

This guy just won, haha. I'll leave this thread for the Apple fanboys (they'll probably just attack eacthother when they're the only ones left—win win, for the entire world).

112. 10aera

Posts: 42; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

Well, probably Samsung did have such patents long before this accusation took place, probably Samsung just bought the patent from Google and the huge amount of patents the got from Motorola, but either the reality the truth is that they are in their own right on using their weapons whenever they want. Apple did the same accusing Samsung of using similar designs on its flagships, but they did it until they started to notice that Samsung was getting stronger and stronger with their sells... Later they tried to ban Samsung's all Galaxy line from Europe, just to delay their sales at least until the iPhone 5 were ready to ship, because Apple knows the SII is way out of the league on hardware specifications in the iphone. Apple have also noticed that Samsung is hurrying the pace at such limit that the comming specifications in the iPhone 5 will look outdated in comparisson to new announced devices such as the SII HD, or the NOTE. Samsung knows that NOWADAYS Apple cannot compete in technology, innovation, an oppeness with Samsung, thereore, Apple sues. But Samsung, as any other person, company, or entity, will try to defend itself from the bothering kid that keeps disrupting its peace of mind... Therefore, they use their As under its sleeve, the 3G patent, that probably would not need to use if Apple would began to fight, despise the good commerce relationships these two giants used to have. Sorry for both and sorry for us, the customers, that will be limited with time to the kind of articles that patents, sues, and other legal terms not associated to technology and innovation, will dictate.

116. The_Miz

Posts: 1496; Member since: Apr 06, 2011

LMFAO!!! Wow really? Andrones are making petty threats on PA just because they're mad that Apple has filed lawsuits against Samsung copying them? LOL, the butthurt level is astronomical.

122. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

be careful or darthball will send you a butt whooping via email as well

132. AppleFanboy

Posts: 142; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

that dude darthball is an idiot...

137. GALAXY-S

Posts: 701; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

so idiot is your word of the day?? thats all i seen you post today...

177. Bluedroid

Posts: 57; Member since: Sep 12, 2011

Taco, you are such an asshole, leave the poor guy alone, all you apple fanboys are just nuts, I bet in real life you guys are nothing more than a nerd, hiding behind your mom. It looks like to me in reality you guys get bullied and thrashed everyday, so you guys are just cowards in real life while you try to be a bully in cyberspace...

181. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Do you have a hard time with reading comprehension? Did you see me threaten anyone on the internet? No you didn't. So where in your twisted mind am I picking on people? You come and troll on Apple articles saying things like I wish Apple is banned from the whole world and then try to play the victim. It's not my fault that you're fragile fandroid phsyche can't handle being called out on your bs. Darthball is very quiet now. Hopefully his high school counselor can help him work through his inferiority issues.

134. HHHCOOWWE unregistered

So MIZ, I fire you and you spend your days on PA? Sad...

152. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

LOL@this dude^. Get out the sledge...

124. Tmachaveli

Posts: 425; Member since: Apr 01, 2011

this is crazy its like the wwe in here which i must watch tonite lol...I thought this was a phone website not the royal rumble

133. AppleFanboy

Posts: 142; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

@ Gallitoking where do you work at dude? If you're in Phoenix

135. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

well I work in sales.. not phones though ... email me at cmaldonado_4@hotmail.com and will give you details...

136. GALAXY-S

Posts: 701; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

hey i think i know you !!!

138. ngo2dd

Posts: 896; Member since: Jul 08, 2011

Wow taco and Apple Fanboy are you guys that blind about the prada? "The first iPhone was unveiled by former Apple CEO Steve Jobs on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007." Here is the LG prada "It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1]" I don't care if you you think they look a like or not. But the Prada was announced and release before the iphone. In fact it was the first to use Capacitive Touch Screen. So what do you have to say about that? You guys still think LG copy Apple a year a head of Apple come on you can't be that blind. Sorry if fact is not what you want. Here is the Engadget linkhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2006/12/15/the-lg-ke850-touchable-chocolate/

144. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

hey in there mind who ever makes something popular also invented it.

146. AppleFanboy

Posts: 142; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

looks nothing like the iPhone, I remember when I was choosing between the 2, I liked the iPhone a lot more...to end the argument, the patent that Apple won was regarding the icons, which is definitely something they should have sued them for....

154. corporateJP

Posts: 2458; Member since: Nov 28, 2009

Go home, dude. You're just dumb.

174. ngo2dd

Posts: 896; Member since: Jul 08, 2011

You are a damn liar. The Prada was import only. You never even saw it in real life

193. AppleFanboy

Posts: 142; Member since: Jun 07, 2011

LMAO, cuz you kno everything right dude?? You're a tool, they had it at the mall by my house, it was $600 and it was unlocked, I had T-Mobile at the time, and had just left Cingular so I didn't wanna go back to AT&T for the iPhone, I was planning on getting the Prada, but for $600 it wasn't really worth it to me...might've been import only, doesn't mean they can't import em to a store idiot

163. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

so in one months time Apple redesigned their whole phone to look like just like the Prada? Get real man lol.

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