An iPhone with an in-display fingerprint scanner may be coming... exclusively to China

Apple is reportedly making a new iPhone model that returns to Touch ID with an in-display fingerprint scanner! Exciting, isn't it? Well, it may only be sold in China...
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1. rebretz

Posts: 114; Member since: Dec 26, 2011

I would much rather have an in screen fingerprint reader if Apple can get a more reliable one developed.

3. Polaris1983

Posts: 33; Member since: May 22, 2019

As long as it works and learns from the galaxy s10 then it should do okay. Apple is very slow and methodical in its approach taking innovation risks as it has a reputation to protect.

4. TheOracle1

Posts: 2213; Member since: May 04, 2015

That's so "innovative". Only Apple could have thought of it. Lol

11. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

If Apple did come out with TouchID again, or something similar. Then everyone would look at Apple's removal of TouchID in the first place, as an omission that Apple was wrong to remove it in the first place. Apple is the one company that can never admit that they do anything wrong, they even go out of their way trying to make their customers pay for their mistakes. Batteries, keyboards, overheating, holding the iPhone the wrong way, and many more.

17. rebretz

Posts: 114; Member since: Dec 26, 2011

Removing the old touch id for face id was a good move. It's what allowed the nearly bezel iphone. If they would have kept the captivate fingerprint reader the iphones would still have a big chin. Now under glass fingerprint readers will still allow the nearly bezel free design.

18. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

They could have put the FPS on the back dude. Geez what you said sounds totally stupid and poorly though out How many phones exist have FPS on the back. In fact many fanboys said what i said, which was they could have put the FPS in the Apple logo on the back.

6. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

There's practically no advantage on using a fingerprint sensor over Face ID except - still - a bit of speed (with iOS 13 the difference is negligible though).

12. Mdw21

Posts: 7; Member since: Sep 23, 2018

I can't get face Id to work more than 50% of the time with my XR and it has to be very close to my face so I look dumb doing it, I took it to Apple they switched it out still same issue. I would like the option of Touch ID, I really cant stand the Android operating system so I wont be switching.

15. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

iOS 13 will bring improvements to FID; until the fall, you could set your face 2 times to see if that fixes your issue.

19. Matte_Black13

Posts: 21; Member since: Oct 12, 2018

I have an XR and have maybe 1/100 times that it doesn't work. Guess it's just your face. JK.

26. Mdw21

Posts: 7; Member since: Sep 23, 2018

I must just have featureless face with no points for the camera to find my wife has no issues with hers

14. wickedwilly

Posts: 667; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Wrong, one is faster, there is a difference. Then there are use scenarios when Face Recognition is less convenient. Without a doubt, both is better, but Apple will always go for the one that makes them the most money, not what is best for their customers. Why because apologists like you do not complain, but support there policies, even boast about their profit levels.

16. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

With iOS 13 the iPhone (XR) unlocks the exact same moment the display lights (it lights just as fast as it did with 12); side by side, with the display already light, Touch ID (iP 7) is faster, but when the display is closed (which is 99% of the times one needs to unlock the phone) the user unlocks the phone right about the same time. I don't know what Apple has done, but there is a huge difference between the speed of FID in iOS 13 when compared to iOS 12. I used to dis FID (I did it publicly on PA), but after I have use it and understood it's strong suits I admited my initial error and embraced it. I couldn't care less about how much money Apple makes/saves as long as I get a good feature and FID is - today - a better feature - overall - than TID.

20. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Using Face ID is a 2 step procss. Thus making it slower than using FPS. When you unlock with PS, the phone would go right to the home screen. You didn't have to swipe up. Even when I use Face Unlock, Iris Scanner or any form of bio-metrics, after it unlocks it goes straight to the home screen. Gosh dude, you arguing the facts is stupid because you can deal with the fact Face ID is flawed. Not only is it less secure than FPS, it slower too. Face ID is not better than Touch ID factually. You may prefer Face ID, but preference doesn't make something better.

24. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

How else would anyone take a peek on notifications on a locked screen? That’s why they kept the sweep to get in. Face ID makes sure it’s you even when you want to just glance on your private messages on the locked screen.

25. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

With FID, I have to slide to get to my springboard, with TID I have to place my finger on the scanner - that’s exactly the same. But FID is more than an unlock tool and you need to use iOS to understand its utility.

28. wickedwilly

Posts: 667; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

You have to take into account how long it takes from starting the process to the finish. You do not announce the winner of the 100m after 20 do you. IOS 13 is not out yet, it may or may not be faster but that judgement can only be made after it is officially released. Even if it is faster in certain use scenarios, in others it will still be slower and less convenient making the FPS/FR option the superior one. The last sentence is your opinion and with your track record means little. Others think different. Having a combination of both along with AI unlock (location unlock for example), which I had long before Apple came out with FID is the best option.

29. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You should try them for yourself before posting dumb things as facts. I know (and I have said from the start - but again, you show that you can’t or you don’t want to read) that tid is faster still (it won’t be with iOS 13), but the benefits of FID are more important than a few milliseconds.

30. wickedwilly

Posts: 667; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Unlike you I have tried and tested this. I do every year when new iPhones come out. FACT IOS 13 is not out yet only a beta version. FACT unlocking the iPhone requires more than one action. Align with face, wait for clearance then swipe. I agree with you that a few milliseconds is not crucil. It is is a shame all you iPhone fans are so hypercritical that one minute you are saying it is, like when benchmarks favour iPhones and not when Touch ID is slower. I also agree there are a few use scenarios where Face Unlock has an advantage, what you miss and refuse to address is there are others where a FPS is better. Quite clearly both is the best scenario, another fact you fail to accept.

32. Leo_MC

Posts: 7203; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Unlocking a X iPhone requires a single gesture (I would think one unlocks the phone to use it, so one needs to look at the display anyway): slide. When you are talking to me, you’re not talking to “iPhone fans”; I never said anything about benchmarks, except that they offer some numbers. I never said Touch ID was bad or it has no advantages, I only said Face ID - overall - has become better.

23. TheOracle1

Posts: 2213; Member since: May 04, 2015

As soon as Apple release it the iFive and Leo will embrace it as the best solution and be eternally grateful to Tim Cook for giving them a second option.

31. wickedwilly

Posts: 667; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Happens all the time, larger screen, ingress protection, wireless charging, fast charging, face unlock the list is endless. I find it incredible that these guys can live with the hypocrisy.

2. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Damn you Europe, should’ve followed my lead and started buying used iPhones ;) Then we would get this to!

5. Tech-shake

Posts: 213; Member since: Nov 14, 2016

Apple is becoming more and more just another company under Tim Cook’s lead. If they actually end up catering to specific countries to boost sales, they will truly lose what’s remaining of their identity!

7. TBomb

Posts: 1394; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

Remember when Apple said that TouchID was inferior to it's FaceID and that's the reason they completely removed it? It would be weird for them to go back after such a strong stance

8. droidboy

Posts: 65; Member since: Nov 25, 2012

Yes, and also when they said they wouldn't make a smaller ipad, a phone made out of cheap materials, or a stylus. Seems like they struggle keeping with what they have said in the past.

13. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Isn’t that because we consumers never can be satisfied, rather then them saying something that is justifiable at that current time? I wonder if we had seen anymore iPhones if it had launched originally with a 6.5” inch screen for instance. Our needs grow and we demand more for each second we grow tired of our smartphones features. We have finally reached a halt and know what we want so as fast as we have catered India’s need, those yearly sales will decline even faster. Then finally we can focus on what’s important; software :) Because apps runs just fine on the 4 year old smartphone as the new one.

22. Matte_Black13

Posts: 21; Member since: Oct 12, 2018

I wouldn't say the pencil is exactly the same as a stylus in the sense you're referring to it. The Note line has a stylus—at least that's what I would consider a stylus. Also the iPad Mini is way overpriced for what you're getting.

21. Matte_Black13

Posts: 21; Member since: Oct 12, 2018

Nah. They should just have both, and make up some "interesting" sounding name for security using both. I think every company should give the option of using both for more sensitive information.

9. shield

Posts: 834; Member since: Sep 12, 2015

BOE build LCD with in display fingerprint scanner.
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