Apple iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are now available for purchase in stores and online

For many consumers, today is the day that they have been waiting for. It is September 16th, which means that the Apple iPhone 7 and Apple iPhone 7 Plus are now available to be purchased in brick and mortar stores and online. Both models are now shipping, which means that the friendly skies are full of new iPhone handsets, packaged in a box and ready to be delivered to front doors in many regions of the world...
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32. AlikMalix unregistered

The way I see it, wireless sound has been stagnating because..., well there's no need when you got the 3.5mm jack. It seem like it's not going to go forward unless there's a push to full wireless. I got tired of untangling wires long time ago back when I still had my 5s - I'm never going back to wires! This whole bitching about 3.5 mm jack is the same bitching they did with the physical keyboard when iPhone came out in 2007; and dropped flash support; and floppy drives... there are many technological advancements made because the old way was getting, well, old. If you keep the 3.5mm jack on devices - the wireless standard would come much, much later in our lives. There are people bitching about automated cars "its dangerous, people getting hurt", we get that, but we got to swallow that pill sooner or later. I guess it's time to give up the wires. We just need true over the air charging - and we're set!

34. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

I do not know if it works like that, wireless has its own issues that people need to work around, I've used high quality bluetooth headsets, they sound great. Hands down great, but why remove an option a choice from consumers, when said choice only downside is "it is wired" As for wire tangle, sounds like you haven't tried those with the wires that practically untangle themselves. And I do not believe you can compare it to physical keyboard vs on screen keyboard, because the difference you only lost was physical feedback, which was mostly covered with vibration feedback. As for it being 'old' that seems an odd statement, if it is better then alternatives how is it old? it is a statement used often, but 'old' doesn't mean bad, jack has been around for ages yes, mini jack replaced it for most use, and mini jack's only downside really is "it is wired" as stated. I'm all for using new stuff, but it needs to be better then what we have, with your example with automatic cars, I'm all for it, as long as they drive better then human's can, that is an improvement. But bluetooth has had plenty of time to improve, saying that they've not bothered because of mini jack seems a bit weird, there are plenty of reasons to improve and go wireless if it can be done. So yeah, don't throw out something because it simply is 'old' if 'old' still is better then 'new', get developing until you get something new that is better. Or at least that is my opinion, rather then removing an option from people.

35. AlikMalix unregistered

. Xondk I actually appreciate your replies. And you are not wrong on anything you posted, but you missed my point. The gripes you may have with wireless options will not be resolved until you take away the wires option. The progress to get to a wireless standard that is preferable over wired will only stagnate if you keep offering a wired option. Does that make sense? Now take away a wired option and the wireless tech will have to evolve faster. Apple took a HUGE risk, risking their customers and potential switchers with this bold move (all the bs about making a dime on licensing and stuff is just garbage when Apple knows it'll loose many sales because of this). And I disagree - there's great alternatives to wired (as you said yourself), they're more expensive right now - but that will only change if that becomes the new standard. Apple is littrally forcing that standard to become reality because of its size. If HTC or LG did this - it wouldn't make a difference, but if Apple did it with the iPhone - headphones manufacturers take notice.

36. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

That's generally not how it works, stuff becomes standard because it is a better alternative, not because there are no other choices... Apple isn't really 'pushing' for anything but excluding mini jack, as much as they are saying "If you want Apple you do not want mini jack." and that is generally not how standards have been made. However it is how a business works to get their user base more secure and buying more of only their authorised products, earning said company more money...

37. AlikMalix unregistered

But can you at least agree that Apple will probably loose more revenue in customers who won't buy the iPhone because "no 3.5mm jack" than it would make on selling the license for lightning accessories?

38. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Of course, any iOS user that is not pleased with it, will not buy it, but that isn't the group of people Apple want anyway, they want the core of people that gladly pay extra for the Apple products because of how the Apple product makes them feel. Simplified numbers, say you have a group of customers that is 10000 people, they pay 5$ for 'full' access to your product (Apple everything basically), you make a change, call it exclusive, courageous brave, and whatnot, and it increases the 'full' access price to 7$ while reducing some features, so people generally have to buy more of your products (airpods in this case). You can lose close to 3000 people and remain profit neutral, and if you keep more then that, your profits increase. Obviously very oversimplified but you get the idea, Apple wants customers that gladly shell out for their products to have the "Apple experience" rather then customers that have it for another reason and might change, and they can afford to lose those that aren't fully into Apple.

33. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

If the quality and battery only is nearing wired why remove it before it is ready? Wireless has its own issues though, which is why personally I don't get that they remove an option from user without massive reprisal.

29. bigsimpd

Posts: 163; Member since: Jan 13, 2012

Correction Iphone 7 plus is not available to buy in stores on the 7 all models of 7plus are sold out.

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Posts: 5; Member since: Sep 19, 2016

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