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Apple iPhone 5s box and accessories up for bid on eBay, phone not included

0. phoneArena posted on 16 Nov 2013, 20:30

Here's a story to chew on this weekend. Someone has put up on eBay the 16GB Gold Apple iPhone 5s box and accessories, and the current bid is $227.50. Did we forget something, like oh, the phone? Nope. The price includes only the box and the accessories that come with it like the ear buds and charger. It's all very strange considering that if you sign a two-year contract with a carrier, you can pick up the phone for $199.99...

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posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:19 2

21. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

There is a major difference between accidently typing "your " vs. "you're". It would be one thing if I didn't know t the difference between the two terms, and making a slight typographical mistake while quickly responding to an Internet comment. Careless, sure. But not stupid in terms of I can't be bothered to pay attention to the next 300 dollars I'm about to spend. If you think the two are the same, therefore warranting the irony comment, then you need help.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 15:26

67. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)

Yea but that old lady isn't being told to her face she is getting scammed. This listing is clearly telling you what you're getting. And maybe the people bidding aren't idiots. Maybe they just really want a box more power to them.

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 21:55 1

18. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

He is still exploiting the system. Oh well, let's not call it "exploiting the system." He surely is exploiting something! Maybe society's idiocy levels?

Stop trying to dumb this down to the fact of, well, the existance of dumb people. That guy is still an a-hole (like your boss), and those bidders are still dumbasses. Cool story.

The existance of said dumbasses doesn't qualify you to scam them, therefore becoming an a-hole. I am starting to think you're a bank owner.

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:01

19. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

I take back the "(like your boss)" thing. It was Ralston1983 that mentioned that. Silly me! Carry on!

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:26 1

22. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

What would it matter if I were a banker? Society shouldn't have to be "dumbed down" so the least common denominator can win. It's called survival of the fittest. That's the problem, we don't hold people accountable for their mistakes so they continue to make the same ones over and over again. Just like giving single mothers with great than one kid financial assistance. If you couldn't figure out after the first kid to stop spreading your legs, don't expect the rest of the world to help you. PS, I'm an engineer. You wouldn't want the person that is going to do surgery on you to have been passed through medical school because 'they tried real hard" would you? That's the same thing here. Social security checks or not, they shouldn't be so stupid to where they don't understand what they are spending their money on. Also, that's not what social security was intended for.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 01:05 1

33. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

So, another one with the "survival of the fittest" philosophy. Happy to see a fellow engineer that could consider eating everybody's heads just because he can, and/or because he deems them "dumb." Utilizing that statement to prove a point in this time and age will just reveal how closed-minded you probably are (I mean no offense).

Society sure gets dumbed down in a certain context, but in your point, it would be the government's fault (annnnd maybe some radical movements, if you must). Most of those government parasites CHOOSE to remain living under those conditions thanks to the assistance. I'm not against it, but I sure as hell I'm against the terms, conditions, and longevity of provision of such aids - all that crap needs to change. Ironically, this is essentially the same thing we're debating about, but the government, in a way, is the dumbass this time.

TL;DR: Just because you can take advantage of another human being doesn't qualify you to do it. Why? Because we're human beings, not animals (anymore). We're more complex than we believe and have deeper stuff that governs us (which we have yet to fully understand).

I believe we should just agree to disagree.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 02:05

37. andynaija (Posts: 968; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)

I'm a human being, but I was never an animal. Maybe you were, but not me :)

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 11:20 1

57. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

Your first paragraph is very confusing. I wish no physical harm to anyone that is stupid. I am just making the point that we need to stop propping up the idiots in society so they continue to multiply faster than the smart people of the society. Also, you then make assumptions about me with very little basis for such. How close minded can an extreme libertarian, or borderline anarchist, that doesn't believe in religion despite being "raised" baptist, be? That statement doesn't even come close to fitting me. Just because I don't feel bad for people that get taken advantage of due to their own stupidity, it means that I am close-minded? WHat were you "taken advantage" of, is this the reason you feel the need to take up the torch for them? If you haven't, then why feel bad for these people? Did you not learn from your mistakes? Maybe these people can use these moments as teachable moments.

Of course it's the governments fault. Well, really "democracies" fault, which the idiots of our time mistakenly call this government. To quote a person I know:

"The problem with democracy is it weaponizes stupidity It turns people we should simply be vaguely sympathetic toward into mortal enemies.
I mean, when one stupid person wants to change the entire society for their own selfish reasons and for their own personal benefit, we call them psycho. When a million people want the exact same thing, we call it democracy.

The problem is our society can be "fleeced" by stories of hardship and turn over the reigns to people who crave more power. Then in order to latch the morons of our society to perpetuating the cycle the politicians keep promising more and more free stuff to the slow of our society. Once you get them attached to the system, they will keep you in power for life. Much like a beaten puppy will continue to come back for food.

Lastly, I think you misunderstand my comments. I never said that because you *can* take advantage of another, you should. I just said I feel no pity for those that get taken advantage of. Those people that take advantage of a situation are bad people too. (however, I will disagree that the above is taking advantage of anyone)

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 04:14 1

43. willard12 (unregistered)

Ahhhhh, and Ponzi scheme swindlers are merely entrepreneurs. Their millionaire investors are idiots that deserve what they get. Now it all makes sense.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 11:17

56. corporateJP (Posts: 2458; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)

↑ This.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 11:33

59. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

Where did I say that? Read what I wrote. Ponzi schemes, like social security, is fraud. No different than a person that sales a box of glass to a an idiot on the street claiming it's an "iPad". Sure, someone like Bernie Madoff is a bad person, but you also have to wonder why you are getting 8-10% returns on your money when everyone else is losing money or breaking even. It's not a difficult concept to understand. If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is. That being said, why should I feel sorry when someone does get taken advantage of due to their own stupidity? Sorry, I just can't bring myself to have pity for a person like that.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 15:06 1

64. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

I finally agree with most of your statements on your comment #57. I'm just legitimately curious now:

1) Would you consider this a scam?
2) Are the phone's specifications absolutely necessary (memory capacity, color, carrier) if it isn't going to be included?

I just did a quick search on eBay for "iPhone 5S accessories box" and it seems that everybody likes to note the phone's specs even though it's not included. The highest one at the moment is a bid going for $83. Unless you're the incredible Mr. OCD Man, I wouldn't see the need for you to pay upwards of $200 for, essentially, just a charger and "earpods."

Anyway, this reminds me of that sale of a PS3 around 2006 which went for like $600. The buyer received a picture of a PS3 instead of the console. :P

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 15:33

68. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)

To be fair, I think the listing of the specs is on eBay. When you begin to sell something it fills in most of the blanks. If you are selling an iPhone it puts in all the specs of that device automatically. I think this is why it shows up on the post. And this is why I think the person boldly puts, NO PHONE. This is coming from someone who sells and buys things on eBay all the time. Its only a scam if all details are not listed and the fact that the person put no phone doesn't make this a scam. And whats wrong with people wanting to buy a box exactly. Ive seen people pay for stranger things in my day, just saying.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 17:29

70. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

Would I consider what the person above did? If that is what you are asking, no. No, I would not consider posting a box on ebay and explicitly stating that there is no phone included, as a scam. You did what you could to prevent someone from buying it thinking it was a phone. Again, you have to pay at least some attention when spending 300 dollars for a phone. (or what you think might be a phone. I say this as someone who has bought and sold phones online.)

Also, IIRC, I think ebay makes you put all those things you are stating in the ad.

As to the "picture" of a PS3, I can't speak on it. I didn't see the ad. If they said it was a "picture" they were selling, then that is the buyers fault. If it never mentioned anything about a "picture", then that is fraud and ebay will give you your money back.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 17:30 1

71. 14545 (Posts: 1671; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I wrote that from my phone and didn't see that until now.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 10:28

51. lyndon420 (Posts: 4956; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

The seller could very well be a victim himself who's just trying to make back the money he lost when he bought a piece of glass in an iphone box...it happens.

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 20:46 10

6. silencer271 (Posts: 254; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

Proof apple fans are sheep

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 11:04 1

54. darkkjedii (Posts: 24438; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

They're people like google fans. If loyalty makes apple fans sh**p, then googles fans are too.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 13:04 1

61. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

what a brilliant theorem/proof!! ...er.. let me poop out the nobel prize i've been working on for you...roflmao

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 15:35

69. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)

Whose to say this isn't a google person wanting to just burn the box (O_o)

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 21:00 1

10. spectrums (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)

i'm not bellive, you pay for this sh*t????

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 21:18 1

15. toiletcleaner (Posts: 224; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)

I like how they fight over a box and accessories, I hope they are not confusing this whit the galaxy S3,

posted on 18 Nov 2013, 00:37

74. spectrums (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)

No, Because Android User Not Sheep Like Apple User :) Apple Hipnotise Their Customer To Buy They Produckt No Care If Thats Produck Is Junk :)

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:16 2

20. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 2195; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)

hahaha fun

posted on 18 Nov 2013, 00:39

75. spectrums (Posts: 127; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)

Yes, Fun. How They Extra Work To Get This Junk (Apple Iphone) :)

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:33 3

23. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Doesn't matter if they're exploiting the system or not, at least in this case, anyone who calls for this has no one else to blame but themselves. If it's a PHONE your looking for, why wouldn't you look for pictures of... THE PHONE??? Who buys products just by looking at the box alone? It would be different if you're buying from a store or a dealer, but from a stranger online? No. This is simple proof that the term "sh33p" is a fitting description for some.

P.S. Why the warning for using the word s.h.e.e.p, but nothing for using Fandroid and all the many offensive variations? I think the term can apply to anyone who blindly follows any company.

posted on 17 Nov 2013, 15:12

66. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)

Personally, fandroid sounds cool, but baaah sounds short and silly. :P

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:34 1

24. choklatwasted (Posts: 15; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)

well... looks like its time to sell my S4 box. heck im sitting on a couple hundred bucks easy

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:45 1

25. OldNorseBruin (Posts: 232; Member since: 12 Mar 2013)

Everyone go to this listing and HIT the "REPORT ITEM" link...That way you can smoke this E-BAY scammer AND humiliate anyone STUPID enough to pay for this iKRAP.

posted on 16 Nov 2013, 22:50 3

26. GeekMovement (unregistered)

Please, the galaxy note 3 box must be worth fortunes.

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