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Apple iPad 2 vs Honeycomb tablets vs webOS HP TouchPad: fight!

0. phoneArena posted on 03 Mar 2011, 10:15

The battle of the heavyweights has officially been staged – the Apple iPad 2 is the successor to the original iPad, which dominated the tablet segment in the last year, but the new contenders appear with…

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posted on 03 Mar 2011, 14:26 8

38. Owlet (Posts: 450; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

I'm anti-Apple from experience, I had Apple products. Other questions?

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 18:09 2

61. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

All these trolls haven't owned Apple products. Most of them don't even fully understand what the specs mean. They just follow around all the apple stories and troll.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 18:47 9

84. Owlet (Posts: 450; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

You are wrong about that. But I fully understand how you would support Apple, since YOU never tried better things.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 21:59 10

102. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Ive used windows, blackberry, palm old and web OS, droid, droid 2 and incredible. I prefer iPhone.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:34 12

18. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Hilarious that the Apple fanboys were screaming over the past few weeks that "You can't compare the iPad's specs to the XOOM's!!! You have to wait for the iPad 2 to see that the XOOM is definitely overpriced for its specs!!!"

And now that the iPad 2's specs are released... oh my. Either matching or worse than the XOOM. So now what, are we supposed to wait for the iPad 3 in order to get a product that has better specs than the XOOM?

I'd still gladly pay 200 bucks more (in the computer department, that's really not all that much) for a product that has better specs and has a reliability record as good as a product which is only an incremental improvement over its predecessor.

Steve Jobs should be embarrassed that he insists on this customer alienating business model.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 14:29 11

39. Owlet (Posts: 450; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

Do you remember how they were screaming iPad2 will BLOW the competition away? Now they are saying, well, specs are not all that important after all... Can you argue with that kind of logic? LOL!

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 14:31 11

40. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Oh hell yes, I know, lol. Now it's all quiet on the western front. I mean, even when they're disappointed they have to hide it behind the curtain of fanboyism.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:35 14

20. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)

im on the quality train...iPd2 doesnt have the highest specs out there but reliability is everything. fragmentation on the Android platform is their achilles heel. im still waiting on FROYO for my Galaxy S. i dont have Flash now but i did on my Droid X. its not as lovely as everyone makes it seem so not having flash isnt so bad. i dont understand people who despise somebody for liking Apple. your strong dislike is the same "fanboyism" concept in reverse. Apple makes solid products esp. if you are in the graphic design or music production industry. whats the "best" is interchangeable based on the individual.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:50 12

22. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Yes, Apple makes quality products.

Yes, they even sometimes come out with innovative products.

Yes, Apple has an awesome aesthetic design team. Their products are generally very pretty.

But most importantly, they have an incredible marketing team.

I don't mind someone who enjoys Apple products and prefers them after making intelligent comparisons.

What I CAN'T FREAKIN' STAND is the group of people who let themselves be victimized by Apple's marketing department, who absolutely insist that Apple is the best there ever was, bar none, who spit on Android and laugh at every negative thing that happens which is associated with it, and ignore every negative thing that happens on Apple's end-or defend it with increasingly stupid rationalizations.

For instance, take the recent virus attack on Android Market. Even though the apps were pulled only minutes after the problem was discovered, and even though the problem only affected certain versions of Android (namely the older ones) and even though it's roughly the same risk you'd have on an ordinary computer, Apple fanboys were quick to point, laugh, and decry Google's app approval process....while completely failing to mention the Baby Shaker scandal.

See, Google doesn't handpick apps, yet removed the problem apps minutes after they were quietly informed of the problem.

Apple DOES have a "rigorous" vetting process, and yet let Baby Shaker through. Baby Shaker was up for at least two days before public outcry forced its removal. Even worse, it was a paid app, which meant that Apple made MONEY off of it before it was pulled.

People who ignore stupidity like that when it comes from Apple yet jump on the smallest problem that surfaces with Android are the people I have the most distaste for. And I'm sure many "Android fanboys" here will agree.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:53 12

24. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

EXACTLY MY FEELINGS...Althoguh I dont like allot about Apple as a company.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 13:04 12

27. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I'd be willing to try one of their laptops eventually if I had that much money to spare, but the problem is that I don't. Their cheapest laptop is a thousand freakin' dollars. I'm typing on a 300 buck Dell that serves my needs just the same.

But their phones? Nah. No need. Well, I'll play with the iPhone 5 in the store. But I just don't get excited about iOS or the phones supporting it. It's all right there, nothing to explore, nothing to learn. Not to mention the iPhone 4 is uncomfortable in my hand. The edges cut into my palm too much. I hope Apple doesn't persist on that design choice in the future.

On the other hand, I have owned 3 Motorola phones, and none of them have disappointed me yet. My first phone, a humble v195, survived just about everything I could throw at it, and had incredible battery life and reception. My Cliq did just fine; I just turned it back on today (I'm going to give it to my nephews on a wifi only basis if their mother approves) and it worked great. My Droid X only gets temperamental once in a great while, but a quick restart settles it down. And all of them have survived multiple drops, water encounters, smacks, smudges, and various abuse. And you know what? Blur works just fine for me. My only complaint is the clunkiness of the social updates widget.

Anyway, I talk too much. Thanks for your support, DJ. Play us a tune. Can I request something from the Beastie Boys? :)

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 13:13 12

28. BaiGanyo (Posts: 308; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)

Thats why I posted earlier that Apple is the worst value. I want tangibles, something concrete, not a bunch of psychobable feel good fluff like "it's so smooth." I'm buy a computer product, not a stool softener.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 18:13

66. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Actually I don't seevany Apple fans bashing android. Do you know why? They're happy with their iPhones and don't care if people buy android. I only see you losers bashing Apple and following all their stories like lost puppies.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 18:54 9

86. Owlet (Posts: 450; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

It's because it hurts to see how some people are so naive and taken advantage of!

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:51 11

23. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

Sadly, I am a DJ and use windows for production simply because of the piss poor customer service of Apple, so even though it would probably work slightly better, I am a consumer dont like being screwed over on insurance, tech support, replacement part cost, or overall cost in general for my money.

Once Apple proves it isnt out to just screw over their customers, then maybe i will support them.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:55 11

25. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

When I signed onto Verizon's (then brand spanking new) warranty department, the first thing we were taught in training was the importance of customer service to a business's success.

While obviously Apple is succeeding spectacularly in spite of this general principle, I can only echo your sentiments. Devices will eventually fail. What matters is what happens when the device fails. What response will you get? Apple consistently holds the middle finger up to its customers whenever there's a problem. No apology for Baby Shaker, no apology for Antennagate (and no significant redesign either!) nothing, nothing, nothing.

posted on 06 Mar 2011, 19:45

143. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Wait wait wait wait. Your comment has zero merrit

Just because Product 1 from company A was reliable, doesnt mean product 2 will automatically be reliable. Lest you be reminded of Antennagate or how easy the iphone4 breaks.

FRAGMENTATION IS ON THE ANDROID PHONES, NOT TABLETS. There is only ONE android tablet OS and that is Honeycomb. Since so far Google isnt allowing much for manufacturer customizations on honeycomb, fragmentation shouldnt be an issue.

ALL GalaxyS (american) phones have had official froyo 2.2 updates. If you havent gotten it yet, maybe u should pay attention. Not all are OTA updates, some are through Kies.

Yes, apple definatly has better music/graphic production apps than android. Hopefully that will get ported over since android is so popular now (hint hint developers.. lol).

Flash is important. Your just willing to give it up for your own reasons. Just about every web page these days have flash. Thats just saying "i like paying top dollar to have a 1995 web experience". Retro is cool and all, right.. lol.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 12:57 10

26. Tfitz (unregistered)

Ain't that some shhh... Android Rocks!

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 13:28 11

30. darko (unregistered)

guys, guys..am i the only one who thinks that the HONEYCOMB is actually the greatest anti ipad2 feature?
it's user interface and usability and overal abilities are miles beyond apple's icon-only(!!!) retarded little OS

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 13:48 10

31. Tech Savvy (unregistered)

I don't have a big problem with Apple, I just see them as the product for the "less savvy" public sheep. I would probably own one if not for their support line and cost of equipment. As far as their Ipads go, my IT branch had a chance to demo a couple. The major factor for us was that, out of the box you can't utilize the product. It must be tied to Itunes. That just seems idiotic. Then once activated, there are no real "usable" apps preinstalled that lets you be productive. And it just looks like a large Ipod Touch. Nothing special or unique about that. Sorry, that is just not enough of a game changer when compared to the XOOM and Honeycomb.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 18:18 1

67. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You're right that less tech savvy people like the iPad. That doesn't make them sheep. Apple has a more user friendly OS. Remember before windows we had DOS. Windows was much more user friendly and allowed more people to use a pc. Apple has taken it to a new level with the iPad and iPhone. Lots of people that didn't use smartphones and pc's use them now thanks to Apple.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 15:26 7

41. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Aww, look at the fanboys who went through and downthumbed pro Android comments. I undid as much damage as I could.

Seriously, could you be more immature?

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 15:37 5

42. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

The ipad2 will outsell them all. It has the most number and best quality of apps (see imovie and garage band). It has the sleekest form factor of them all. It has the best customer support. The best battery life. The most reasonably priced. It works well to most users. Better implementation of upgrades. And there's just that something special about it that the rest just doesn't seem to have. The "it" factor.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 15:49 12

43. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Ah, so the downthumber was you, Gemini. Thought I could smell your stink. You're exactly the kind of fanboy I despise.

"Sleekest form factor" Yes, because a 4:3 aspect ratio is sleeker than a 16:9 aspect ratio.

"Best customer support" All I see from anyone but you are complaints about Apple's tech support. What happy horses**t is this about Apple not providing free tech support?

"Most reasonably priced" But we don't have any pricing information on the iPad 2, so how can you make this claim?

"Better implementation of upgrades" You mean the 1 a year "Let's improve some minor things and charge the exact same price, while bricking older phones with software updates" implementation?

"Something special" Sorry, I don't see it. I see something special about Android; it has a motif, it has character, it has a personality. iOS is pretty, sure, but it has no personality. It's bland. Like ice.

Even if you didn't downthumb all of our comments, this rampant fanboyism is just plain annoying.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 16:05 11

45. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Well Jesus, will you iFanboys stop spamming the downthumb/upthumb comment buttons?! If you don't stop I'll start making freakin' sock accounts to set all ratings back to zero.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 16:07 4

46. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Screen orientation is not "form factor". Forml factor refers to its hardware design. And the ipad2 outshines them all.

Apple gets awards every year for providing the best customer service. They are known for that. Yes, there complains, but so do android users about their devices. Unless of course you can show me a report that shows 100% satisfaction rate among android users. Apple products have been awarded the highest satisfaction rates many times already.

It was stated in the Apple event yesterday that the ipad2 will sell for the same price as the ipad1, which makes it more affordable than the rest.

Better implementation in the sense that, with all those upgrades with the RAM, the A5 dual core processor, the cameras, etc. Apple still was able to make the ipad2 thinner than the first one. It's also able to maintain its 10hr battery life. And most of all, Apple was able to retain its price. That's great upgrade implementation.

The ipad2 has something special because no matter how the others try so hard to be impressive on paper, they still can't outsell the ipad :)

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 16:24 12

47. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

How many sock accounts do you have, Gemini? You're the only iFanboy I see who keeps coming back here.

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 16:41 10

48. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

Snigglez is my new best friend

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 16:50 10

50. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Hi new best friend, how are you? :D

posted on 03 Mar 2011, 16:45 3

49. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

Thinkers are doers :)

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