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Apple cans employee over an iPhone rant on Facebook

0. phoneArena posted on 02 Dec 2011, 10:37

If you work for Apple and are unhappy with your iPhone, you may want to keep it to yourself. An employee at the Apple Store in Norwich, UK by the name of Samuel Crisp was terminated for just that

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posted on 02 Dec 2011, 10:41 12

1. LewsTherin006 (Posts: 140; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)

And another good reason why you dont rant/ putting anything important on facebook. It can get your fired.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:45 4

23. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)

Dang, what happen to freedom of speech. O' we r talking about natzees. Lol

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:16 6

26. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

Apple employees are placed under massive mental pressure to keep smiling and talk well of apple at all times. Their induction training involves them being tied to a chair with eyes held open and subjected to several 'apple is good,you love apple' training videos until their mental resolve succumbs to the apple darkness that now surrounds them!

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 21:07 2

42. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

If I own a company and someone is being sarcastic like that I'd fire them too. If the employee wasn't happy with the company he was working for and the products they make, then the boss did them both a favor by firing the guy.

The only thing that kind of sucks is that a "friend" turned him in.....ouch

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 15:06 2

51. noahbf (Posts: 28; Member since: 28 Apr 2009)

I wonder if he blocked him..

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 22:57

61. impaler (Posts: 3; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)

Nazis. You spelled it like Yahtzee. LOL

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 22:57

60. impaler (Posts: 3; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)

You're right. I heard someone reference Facebook and most public websites with the analogy of an open window. Don't be stupid. Assume mom and dad will read it. Assume your wife/girlfriend/husband/boyfriend will read it. Be smart. Assume it'll be in the public forever.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 10:50 6

2. bossmt_2 (Posts: 457; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)

That's why you never list your job or have pictures of you in company attire on facebook. If you do you can be misconstrued as representing the company, if not, then you can probably sue for wrongful firing.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 15:08 1

39. tedkord (Posts: 14114; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

It wouldn't matter in this case. Apple security would just show up claiming to be police detectives from your local precinct and go through your PC looking for incriminating evidence.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:24

53. Kease (Posts: 36; Member since: 30 Sep 2011)

Actually many companies today have similar policies disclosed in their hiring process...

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 10:58 15

3. Adianshadows (Posts: 66; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

I would go back and punch that co worker in the face for showing their boss... snitches get stiches IMO... :)

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:17 10

5. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

never bring your co-workers onto your FB, never make your posts public, and never talk too much crap about your job.. especially apple.. they have the fruit gestapo!! lol

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 14:56 4

35. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

This made me laugh. Fruit gestapo lol

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:20 1

6. Gawain (Posts: 426; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)

I wonder if he would have been fired, if this had been passed along as hearsay - i.e. if this guy Crisp had ranted while having a few beers with friends at the bar. Not totally oranges-to-oranges comparison (it stays on the internet *forever*), but you get the gist...

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 09:07

48. TMobileRep_52_SwaaaG (Posts: 40; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)

Or...... 'Apple to Apple' comparison..... ope see what i did there?? haha

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:30 3

7. corporateJP (Posts: 2458; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)

As much as I'm unimpressed with a good amount of Apple gadgetry, I'd have to tell you I'm on their side on this one.

This guy is simply a moron.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:48 5

10. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)

I don't understand why... Just because he works for Apple doesn't mean his free speech rights are taken away. Maybe if he was venting about his boss being an idiot or something, but to complain about problems with his personal device?

They wouldn't have cared if he was venting about his Android phone having problems, just because he works for Apple and has an iPhone shouldn't change it in my opinion.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 15:02 2

38. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)

Your freedom of speech taken away? Please.

Microsoft canned a blogger when a superior got an e-mail that had the signature "Sent from my iPhone".

Publicly posting something negative about a company event would be enough for any employer to get upset.

corporateJP: Yes, agreed. This guy is an idiot. Vent to your friends about work over a beer and not the internet.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:09 2

41. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)

iamcc...When you get hired by a company, one should always read the fine print, and the Spirit Letter...rules and conduct regarding Social Networks/Posting online is covered, and when you sign on the dotted line, you must abide by those rules as one of the conditions of employment.

Perhaps small companies, or mom and pop companies don't have such requirements, but mostly all Fortune 100 companies do. And apparently, Apple, regardless of location, has such conduct requirements. It's also possible that his job performance was also a consideration....

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:43 3

8. ilia1986 (unregistered)

So, If I work for a certain company - suddenly the content of what I write on the internet is moderated lest I write something hateful about that same company?

Really? I thought that there is this little something in America called "Free speech".

I'm from Israel - a country which is arguably far from being as advanced as the US is - but over here *you do not get fired from your job just because you posted on Facebook on your personal profile something negative about it (your job)*.

It certainly shocks me that you guys are all in for the Big Bad Apple. This is absolutely ridiculous.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:49 4

11. mctcm (Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)

There is also something called "Right to work." He can continue his free speech while unemployed.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:53 3

12. ilia1986 (unregistered)

So if you're employed - and you come back home, off duty, your private life - you don't have any free speech?

How stupid is that?!

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:14 3

15. Hallucinator (Posts: 387; Member since: 24 May 2010)

The only stupid thing is that you can not understand why this is wrong for him to do so.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:24

18. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Just because I work for a certain company does NOT mean that I must instantly switch my opinions in favor of that company when in the first place I used to think differently. Simple as that. The CEO of nVidia is allowed to say that Radeon cards are better. Someone working @ McDonald's is allowed to say that the food there sucks. A salesman returning home from work is allowed to post on the internet that the product that he is actually selling - is bogus.

At least in my country.

Sad to hear that it's not like that everywhere else.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:38 1

21. jburris020 (Posts: 17; Member since: 28 Nov 2011)

Doesn't the post say he works in the U.K? Does freedom of speech apply

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 14:59 3

37. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Freedom if speech is misinterpeted so often. All it means is that you wont get thrown in jail for what you say. You still have to deal with the consquences of what you say. A company can fire their employees because of speech just cant thriw them in jail.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 00:18

45. r41nier (Posts: 70; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)

take a business course and you'll know why this act is unacceptable. read about competence, core values, and employee hiring.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 09:21 1

49. TMobileRep_52_SwaaaG (Posts: 40; Member since: 03 Oct 2011)

did your business course say anything about direct company policy? i took business values and business law and both were pretty clear that a company withheld the right to protect their assest (i.e. their product in this case) and if their policy had a firm ground on what u post on social networks, then they are clean and clear to do what they (the company) feels it has to do.

posted on 04 Dec 2011, 15:13

58. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

this is a common issue these days.
I dont know about the rest of the world, but in america most states are concidered "right to work". Basically, you can be fired at any time for any reason.
While it is not illegal to shout your hatred for your boss from the tops of the hills (or facebook profile), it is in bad taste. As such, you are making PUBLIC declarations disparaging your job. It may be your "private" life, but you are doing it in a public domain. As such, in a public domain, your employer might be listening and has the right to protect their image (and/or be vindictive depending on the case) and release you from employment.

If you want to vent about your boss, do it with your friends at home or somewhere where you dont have to worry about the wrong people hearing it. Do NOT put it on your facebook profile.

Many companies these days hire people that can scour the internet (everything you post is searchable to some extent) to find what you are really saying about things. Not only can you lose your job by facebook rants, you can be turned down from a job that finds these rants after interviewing you.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:55 1

13. nicknack84 (Posts: 38; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

there is free speech in the US, however this took place in Norwich, UK and not the US.

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