Future Apple iPhones to use Qualcomm modem chips as settlement is reached

Apple and Qualcomm have settled their legal battles. Apple will make a payment to Qualcomm and both parties have entered into a six-year licensing agreement that will allow Apple to use Qualcomm's modem chips again.
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62. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016

Now wait until he rebuts.

67. Leo_MC

Posts: 7206; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I only said dark_something's QC modems are s**tty and bad; pay attention, dude :)!

73. sgodsell

Posts: 7209; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Leo_MC, your as bad as Apple. Just get off your knees like Apple, and wipe that white stuff off your chin. Face the facts, I bet you Apple wants the settlement to be silent, because they owe Qualcomm money, it's plain and simple, and obvious.

79. Leo_MC

Posts: 7206; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

I'm even worse. Of course this trial involved some money that Apple - and other companies - owed Qualcomm, but it's not what this trial was all about. You are to dumb to understand and so am I up to an extent.

13. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

6 years with the option of an additional 2 years is crazy long Makes me wonder if they'll continue developing their own modem or if they've given up on that too

21. KingSam

Posts: 1425; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

With their stagnation in the processor space and now modems intel is in a pickle. No wonder they want to move to gpus.

72. true1984

Posts: 864; Member since: May 23, 2012

yep especially with amd catching up in performance with a much lower price and the gpu market is basically cornered by amd and nvidia. intel might have a lot trouble coming up soon.

22. md227a

Posts: 226; Member since: Mar 20, 2012

Intel chips are garbage! The worse part of my Xs by far is the modem.

31. Seatech21

Posts: 67; Member since: Jan 01, 2018

No doubt! Intel is good at silicon, modems however are a different story.

24. cheetah2k

Posts: 2221; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Intel had no priority on making 5G modems.. I doubt its a great loss for them.

57. mootu

Posts: 1500; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

Correct, Intel doesn't want to be in the mobile modem business, they are under contract to Apple so must stay in it for 4G. They havn't been doing much R&D (why bother when they know all along Apple would drop them at some point) and will be glad to be out of the sector. It's actually a win for them.

75. cheetah2k

Posts: 2221; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

83. oldskool50

Posts: 1326; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Why? Intel stated they made zero profit from this agreement with Apple. Intel makes more than enough cash with their 500-1000% markups on Processors. For Intel I am betting they are happy and likely will NEVER do business with Apple again. And if every OEM did the same, Apple would have no business. Apple has done more harm to the mobile business than benefit and any OEM who has ever done any business with Apple on any level, will tell you that. As evil as Microsoft was back in the 80's and 90's, the Apple of today is far and away worse; and they never had to be. Even the co-founder Steve Wozniak, has stated many times, he has no idea what his company is doing and even he questions many of their moves. if he can do it, why can't people; here be the same?

4. iczer

Posts: 157; Member since: Oct 14, 2015

So Apple will have to paid Qualcomm a big amount of money! furthermore Apple will use qualcomm modems again! Nice move Qualcomm! What were you thinking Apple?

8. lyndon420

Posts: 6737; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

What were they thinking? Their business model is 'make it as cheap as possible when making it, and charge as much as possible when selling it'.

84. oldskool50

Posts: 1326; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Thank you. You should be the God of the comment section. So much for that BS that Apple makes sure everything is perfect before releasing it. That was how Steve Jobs was. Cook only cares about profit. Not about making the best products. And you can see how they have been cheaping out. bending phones, now bending tablets. Look at all the Macbook issues with the keyboards. Look how they ruin programs like Final Cut Pro. One company I use to work for, went out and bought older macs, so that they could use older versions of FCP, because they said FCPX is total garbage now. Other I know, have now made apps like Adobe premier and Audition their goto media creation tools over FCPX.

12. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

I bet apple secured a better contract this time

15. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Hard to say Qualcomm has so much more leverage this time given they're Apple's only viable option for 5G in 2019 and even 2020 if rumors are true

20. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Naw 5G is not a gamechanger in phones and apple was late with 3G and 4g. And Qualcomm has the same percentage on everyone’s contract so why keep it secret this time. Because of apples expensive phones and amount sold even QC would be ok to lower that percentage in the contract

27. toukale

Posts: 624; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

@vincelongman - Speaking like someone who does not see the whole picture. Apple had all the leverage in this case. The worst outcome for Apple was they lost the case and the judge upholds the prices they were already paying, no big loss there. For Qualcomm, their entire business model was at stake, no sane person or company would jeopardize their livelihood like that. Qualcomm was going to settle simply because of what they stood to lose.

39. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

You're missing that this deal obviously Apple conceding defeat They realised they wouldn't win the trail and that they needed Qualcomm's modems as Intel was delaying their 5G modem until 2021 It includes an undisclosed payment from Apple to Qualcomm That's why Qualcomm's share price is up almost 25%, while Apple's hasn't really moved

40. toukale

Posts: 624; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

What are you on about. The paying was the 8 billion dollars Apple held back from Qualcomm the past 2 years. Also, Apple got a new deal, the old crappy deal is gone, which is what Apple was after. Apple was always going to pay Qualcomm, that's not the issue here. The issue was always how much, and I am sure Qualcomm did not want to put their business model of double dipping at risk.

86. oldskool50

Posts: 1326; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Of course you would say that. if Apple had so much leverage, then why they didn't go to court and have it settled? They could have reject QC and just let it play in court. Right? You have no idea and we know you're gonna side with Apple no matter how wrong they are. It's really best to just keep it to yourself. Theer isn't a court in the ocuntry that can change a contarct, unless it contains something illegal. Which it didn't. After all, don't you think apple is smart enough to not sign an illegal deal? They signed the deal dude. No court can make QC change it prices. What court have you seen force any company to change what it charges another company? Apple who overcharges for everything for profit, is complaining someone charging them to o much? and you have zero issue with it. You're too biased to even have any open minded thought.

85. oldskool50

Posts: 1326; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Am sure it was better. Even if it wasn't, they agreed to it. For another 6 years.

32. Seatech21

Posts: 67; Member since: Jan 01, 2018

Apple owed Qualcomm "billion's" of dollars. But anyway, Apple will get high quality, fast, dependable modem's again.

44. iloveapps

Posts: 855; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

I guess they paid what was to be paid when they stop paying qualcomm

6. lyndon420

Posts: 6737; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Can't wait to see what the actual payment and deal is. So far it looks like (according to the vague sounding nature of this article) that apple is in the wrong and kissing up to the mighty QC - not that it would surprise the majority of us lol.

9. scarface21173

Posts: 659; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

QC shares up 23%

14. Leo_MC

Posts: 7206; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Apple and its partners withheld billions (5 or 7 I think) in payments so most likely the money that are going to be paid are a middle ground between the sums QC asked and those that Apple wanted to pay. This deal is going to get QC an additional $6-9 billion/y (1.5 x 20 or 30 x ~200 mil) and Apple an additional $1.2-12 billion/y (6 x 20 or 30 x 200 mil). Not bad for either company.

87. oldskool50

Posts: 1326; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

You have zero idea. You're only speculating and YOUR speculation of course is only defending Apple. Apple paid an undisclosed amount and signed a completely new deal. No matter what you claim, its QC who came out on top. PERIOD. You have no idea what happen behind closed doors or what was paid. The fact is, whatever QC did, I gurantee they got the majority of what was owed. And they are gonna make more over the next 6 years. if Apple could have gotten a modem from Samsung, there wouldn't have been a settlement. And Apple likely would have went to court and lost on some ground and won on another. But in the end, Apple would still have nee paying QC whether it would have ended up being more or less. Qualcomm is the one who is gonna be makign the oney here, not Apple. So I dont see how you always wanna run your stuff in Apple favor. Apple needed a modem and QC was their only option after shopping Huawei and Mediatek, which can't produce enough hardware because they don't have that kinda resource. Only Samsung does and once Samsung said no, Apple was SOL. Sorry you're wrong if you even think Apple had any win in this case. If they did, they wouldnt have settled and avoid court. It was all nothign but smoke and mirrors. QC got what they expected, they got paid whatever money Appel owed and they are gonna get more. You don't get to divide anything, because you have zero idea how much they were suppose to pay other than what QC claimed. if Apple had lost in court, they would have had to pay, not only all the back-pay, but also all of QC's litigation fees would for all we know, could be 100's of millions. I don't think you have any idea how court works. At least not in the USA.
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