Apple, AT&T extend iPhone exclusivity pact?

Verizon customers waiting for the iPhone might have to wait another year before Big Red gets Apple's touchscreen device...
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53. dswatson83

Posts: 56; Member since: Jan 13, 2010

agreed. Iphone was the best for a couple years. Its sad actually that it took so long for the competition to catch up but windows fell asleep and android was still maturing. Well, I think apples reign is now over. Android is just about fully matured and the incredible, evo, galaxy s, to name a few, offer better hardware than the iphone. cnet just paired off the incredible against the iphone and guess which won...kiss your lead goodbye applehttp://reviews.cnet.com/2722-6452_7-559.html

54. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Actually I should be one of those people you are talking about. I live in central South Dakota. I finally bit the bullet and got a smartphone about a week ago. I tested the wireless speeds using a speedtest.net app, one test on wifi, and one on 3G. To give you an idea of my area, I am about 20-25 miles away from the tower in my area which is hilly. My wifi (dsl @ 800k) netted 814k down and 223k up. The 3G test netted 867k down and 246k up. AT&T will be coming to the area by years end after getting Alltel that was divested from Verizon. Personally I can't see any good reason to switch other than being able to get an iPod Touch with a phone integrated into it (iPhone). Personally I could care less if Verizon gets the iPhone, AT&T can keep that and their half-top (iPad), I'll take function before form anyday.

71. DonkeyPunched

Posts: 321; Member since: Jan 10, 2010

Agreed 100%. I have a nexus one and an iPad, so I can have the best of both worlds. But if I had to choose between an android or iPhone, it'd be an iPhone. I'm just have phone A.D.D., so I like to switch.

72. ding2134

Posts: 38; Member since: Dec 30, 2008

Seriously, cricket. That is pretty crazy and somewhat hypocritical to say ALL of that, and then say to each HIS own. Think before Speak.

73. ding2134

Posts: 38; Member since: Dec 30, 2008

Good summary donkey. Agreed %100. The glass is always half full! Its just full of differnet stuff all the time!

77. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

@spoonb1 - you sure you wasnt asked to leave Verizon as an employee? You kind of bitter...sniffin Luke Wilson's nuts now.

78. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

@ding2134 Really? Man...

80. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

And how was I bein hypocritical? By "all of that" are you referin to my comments about those pro-Apple users who feel that there is no other that can compare to the iPhone? I do believe the majority of what I said was leanin more towards there bein several diff. options for a good smartphone now and that the iPhone is just another option. What I said was factual information. I didn't bash the iPhone...I just said that its not the leading smartphone anymore and that there are other suitable options. My ending was in reference to those cocky individuals who carry the iPhone and believe that every other mobile device on the market sucks except their iPhone, which is very biased and childish. I think maybe you need to look up the definition of hypocrisy.

87. AdaminNE

Posts: 1; Member since: May 11, 2010

spoonb1, answer this for me, if AT&T is so much better everywhere than VZW why did I have to help an AT&T customer in my store. First of all I have to say that I am currently a sales rep at a VZW corp store in a city of about 50,000 in central Nebraska. I had a customer come in about a week ago with his work IPhone. He had voice service (roaming off a Viaero tower) but no data service. You know what his employer did? They purchased and activated a VZW MIFI 2200. In case you don't know, that's a data card that acts as a wifi hot spot, connecting up to 5 devices at once, using VZW's network for the internet connection. This customer had to use the wifi on his IPhone to connect to the VZW data card. I set it up for him and it worked perfectly. If AT&Ts data network is so much better than VZWs, why did a business loyal to AT&T have to get a VZW data card to use data services on an IPhone? You don't have to answer this if you don't want to, it's ok, I already know the answer.

20. Verizon381

Posts: 1; Member since: May 06, 2010

Here's how I see it. Verizon will be rolling out with 4G pretty soon. Big Red doesn't do things in small parameters. They'll roll it out when it's available everywhere. Once this is done (later this year), Verizon will then carry the I-phone. Sprint has 4G (If you want to call it that), but where is there coverage? Less than 10% of there market? Less? Dan Hessey CEO of Sprint can star in his commercials all he wants, but when it comes down to it, Verizon offers the best service around. I see a large meger in the near future in both GSM and CDMA markets. Verizon buys Sprint, AT&t buys T-mobile. You will then have your choice of two major carriers available in the United States.

59. jbroots3

Posts: 104; Member since: Jan 29, 2010

way to try and read into it, but that would be called a "Monopoly" Im pretty sure that would screw over all of our monthly costs as well; and as far as using AT&T, i'd rather not get hosed by their service or get raped by verizons cost. You cant tell me on the part of Sprint (or AT&T's 3g coverage for that matter) that the biggest cities don't have the biggest precedent, because they do. Sprint just announced 19 more markets, bringing their end-of-year 4g coverage blanketing up to 120 million customers. Verizon would be stupid to wait and wait and wait to realease one blanketed 4g coverage instead of doing soft launches in major areas, why not make money now while AT&T STILL doesn't have any 4g efforts????

21. gzoneman

Posts: 5; Member since: Nov 20, 2009

DON'T believe everything you read from these so called clowns who think they know what they are talking about. Unless its official....guess what? its UNofficial.

23. Mateo8326

Posts: 472; Member since: Jul 15, 2009

yeah and the verizon getting the iphone has been unofficial for years now so your right lol

25. som

Posts: 768; Member since: Nov 10, 2009

let ATT and APPLE getting marry instead of exclusively contract never end. VERIZON don't need iPhone any way Android will catch up in a few years of development.

64. iHateCrapple

Posts: 734; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

It already has...

26. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

CDMA is just patch work technology now - Once Verizon gets LTE in full swing, APPLE will go to them. APPLE and AT&T have a 5yr contract with a provision in years 4 and 5 to opt out, thus creating all of this bull crap media hype. Verizon will be fine, but will have growing pains transitioning to LTE from CDMA. VERIZON also has to contend with the fact that it does not keep all of its profits as two companies own VERIZON and this makes it harder for them to raise the capital needed to switch to LTE 4G, but it is not an impossible task.

28. jtucker1987

Posts: 89; Member since: May 06, 2010

In my honest opinion, Verizon will get the iphone once LTE is out BUT I doubt that it will come right away. The reason being is that I don't think apple will make one 4g iphone for verizon and then a 3g iphone for att. I think apple will wait for att to launch LTE so that way they wouldn't need to make two different iphones. You have to remember apples history, they are comfortable in their little corner of the market. They have only 1% of all computers sold in the world. Yes the exclusitivty will end and yes verizon will get the iphone but i think they will sync it when att and the rest of the world has LTE up and running.

30. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

AND.....Verizon will have some growing pains converting everything to GSM 4G LTE technology - AT&T did it and it was rough for a while - Cingular bought/merged with old AT&T WIRELESS and had to swap parts of the network out with T-MOBILE's crappy network - courtesy of the federal governement. T-MOBILE and SPRINT are walking on edge every quarter and at some point another merger will occur. There is not much money in PREPAID customers, in terms of profits.

40. sinfulta

Posts: 279; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

LTE is not a GSM based technology. I have told you guys this before. It's actually not even 4G, it's actually a 3.9G technology cause it does not meet the IMT-Advanced 4G requirements. 3GPP2 Revision 8 allows LTE (Completely different technology from UMTS and CDMA 2000) and allows it to be backwards compatible to GSM/UMTS based Networks and 1XRTT/EVDORevA/B/C networks. LTE takes some of the best things about GSM and CDMA technology and pulls they're strengths from both on a much quicker access network. I have posted before and been to these cell cites to test equipment for different chipsets for all kinds of carrier's all over the country. So Get this through your guys heads. LTE is not CDMA or GSM based. It's neither. But is backwards compatible for both as why so much of the world is choosing that route. For those comparing networks this is how it breaks down so you can understand: CDMA equivalent GSM: =

46. corps1089

Posts: 492; Member since: Jan 20, 2010

The truth smells so refreshing! Thanks!

91. BlackberryUser

Posts: 609; Member since: Jun 26, 2009

Thank you for the accurate info sinfulta. I hear neither WiMax or LTE is a true 4g.

36. phone333

Posts: 331; Member since: Feb 04, 2009

AT&T might as well keep it forever...who cares! EVO 4G FTW !!!

65. iHateCrapple

Posts: 734; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

For Sprint.... For Verizon...HTC Incredible FTW!! Either way....Android FTW!!!

42. kdlj

Posts: 19; Member since: Jun 23, 2009

This is the smartest thing that At&t could do. In my opinion.

45. corps1089

Posts: 492; Member since: Jan 20, 2010

True. This partnership will continue, and Apple will continue to have the upper hand in their relationship with this carrier until they are dethroned not as the best OS/hardware combo, but dethroned as the most popular OS/hardwarre combo. That is why so many of us techies hate Apple/iPhone; because it is deserving of nothing more than winning just the popularity contest and ATT is selling their soul [network reputation and speed] to ride the coat tails of the iPhone as far as possible. I'm kind of glad my carrier did not go down this road as popular as the phone is as I do not want my dollars going to subsidy a phone I consider inferior due to limitations.

89. corps1089

Posts: 492; Member since: Jan 20, 2010

I guess that my comment was too close to the mark as someone out there is taking potshots without bothering to answer with logic or even with their own opinion. well, there is no logic against truth...

47. markemark11

Posts: 47; Member since: Jan 07, 2010

Dont care cuz its all about the EVO BABY!!!!!

56. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I'm glad Sprint is getting the EVO. Now both Verizon and Sprint have phones equal to or better than the holy iPhone (heard the EVO may be coming to Verizon as the Venture so bonus there). This is what happens in a free market, innovation. Video chat capabilities, HDMI out, etc. all drive the industry to make things like this standard and consumers reap the benefits. Apple did this with the iPhone when bringing touchscreen to the masses, but they refused to get past the main limitation of the iPod, upgradability and the ability for the end user to fix the phone themselves. Myself, I like the ability to be able to upgrade to a better battery or memory rather than having to get a new phone to accomplish thiis. What's the benefit of having a phone with hardware that's locked in rather than being upgradable, NONE!

88. corps1089

Posts: 492; Member since: Jan 20, 2010

I agree, but so much of my preaching falls on deaf ears!

49. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

What sucks about the APPLE/AT&T relationship is that APPLE does not allow great phones to compete with the iPHONE....:-(
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