Apple, AT&T extend iPhone exclusivity pact?

Verizon customers waiting for the iPhone might have to wait another year before Big Red gets Apple's touchscreen device...
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55. whocares

Posts: 235; Member since: Dec 19, 2009

Not everyone WANTS to be able to CUSTOMIZE everything. alot of people find this to just be a hassle. For example. Myspace died to Facebook. Why? Facebook is more controlled and a better experience. Myspace you could customize way way more but it was a hassle.

57. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

So that's why there is an iPhone. Can't figure out why they don't put that in their ads. "Tired of making decisions? Want a phone to tell you what you need? Get the iPhone. By the way, that wasn't a request."

58. whocares

Posts: 235; Member since: Dec 19, 2009

Some people prefer ease of use ;) hence the numbers.

60. tallica05

Posts: 93; Member since: Dec 26, 2009

Screen resolution is awesome on the iphone i do agree.. However, the 480 x 800 WVGA AMOLED Touch screen on the incredible is the best ive used and seen on a phone. and this phone is in no way a look a like for the iphone. I hated at&t network thats why i made the move to vzw. Needless to say i havent been disappointed they didnt have the iphone. Infact i had less problems with my droid then i did my iphone.

74. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

I love the comparison between facebook and myspace because it's so true. You can really change your myspace page to look like almost anything. But facebook with it's unchangeable white and blue is still better. And to VZWuser76, why makes you think apple has been in the game 2-3 years longer than Android? You're so off. The first iPhone launched a year prior to the G1, but the Apple App Store launched two months before the G1 and it's open market/source stuff. I don't like Android much anymore (after 4.0 update), I don't think that the iPhone really had anything extraordinary that Android doesn't offer. But I think the same for Android. It's not spectacular either.

75. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

The question you need to be askin yourself is why does your Milestone crash once every 2 days. I have a equivalent (DROID) and mine hasn't crashed in the 5 months that I've had it.

83. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Technically you are correct, but the G1 was available only on TMobile's network. When you think about size of networks, there are 2 types, large (VZW & AT&T) and small (Sprint & TMobile). Others like Cricket, Boost, Virgin & Metro for the most part use one of the earlier mentioned carrier's networks. What kept adnroid from growing was that TMobile doesn't have a footprint that would make jumping to them a viable option for a lot of people. That's like releasing a hot phone on a limited pre-paid network and expecting it to compete with the larger carriers. Do you notice that android took off when it was released on VZW (a larger carrier). Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the first iPhone ran on the Edge network, which on AT&T has a much larger footprint than their 3G network. So when the iPhone first launched their data network was comparable in size to Verizons at the time. When they released an iPone for 3G is when AT&T's network troubles started. I wonder if the people who left VZW to go to AT&T for the iPhone would have done so if they knew then what we know now. Now if VZW wouldn't have passed on the iPhone to begin with does that mean android would never have come to fruition? No, it was inevitable that a new OS would come out to compete with the iPhone's. Would it have gained as much ground as it has on the iPhone, that's hard to say. They might not have had the data issues they do on AT&T and people would have wondered what the benefit this new OS would be. But as it is, there were a lot of Verizon customers unwilling or unable to go to AT&T's network becuase of the footprint limitations. The main reason people like the iPhone is many either have or are familiar with iPods, so transitioning to an iPod with phone capabilities was fairly simple. Is android harder to use than Apple OS? Yes and no. There is a learning curve because there has been no device with android before the phones unlike the with the iPhone. There was I'm sure a similar learning curve when the iPhone came out. Not for the OS, but for using a fully touchscreen phone versus one with hardware buttons. But after a short while it's not that difficult to learn. I had never had an android device or even smartphone before i got my Incredible. I have an iPod and knew how they worked, and the two are vastly different, but after a couple days of light playing with the device I can get around it with no problem. Are there more advanced things I can do with it that I haven't? Yes, but that gives me something to look forward to when I decide to take that on.

85. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

Well that makes more sense. Saying that the iPhone launched on a more popular network is better than saying that Apple got a 3 year head start on their app store when in fact it was a few months. And the G1 could have done well on T-mobile despite the company's smaller size (T-mobile is still fairly large. The pre-paid analogy was a little stretched). Google could have launched a much better and less uglier phone. They kept talking about open source as one of their top features but I guess nobody really cared. The sidekick line did incredibly well on T-Mobile despite the network's small size. Almost everyone had one. And I disagree that the main reason why people have iPhones is because of iPods. The iPhone was my first and only Apple device. I like it because of the good and fast browser, best touch-screen, good music player, high quality apps (I don't really care about the # of apps), etc. I mainly love the fact that developers are paying so much attention to the App Store. I mean even Nintendo referred to Apple as "the enemy of the future." I hate the fact that it takes Apple forever to come up with decent upgrades, but I love that when they do, they're usually awesome. Take multitasking and copy and paste for example.

6. Mateo8326

Posts: 472; Member since: Jul 15, 2009

Ok we all seen this coming; verizon getting the iphone got to big the biggest rumor in history it's been going on for like 4years now and they keep proloning it i'm sure most verizon customer or over it and are settling with the android....i looking forward to apple next excuse on prolonging verizon the iphone lol

9. Mateo8326

Posts: 472; Member since: Jul 15, 2009

For those of you also who are complaining how the Iphone isn't for Verizon yet get over it, not one ATT customer is complaining that we don't have the Motorola Android

15. Legacystar

Posts: 131; Member since: Dec 31, 2009

you have a motorola android phone tard

16. Jojofromdabay

Posts: 39; Member since: Apr 06, 2010

Verizon Will see an iphone real soon now the android phones are pretty much running the market it only makes since for apple to open up the spread of iphones to other characters. However I believe that at&t may have it for a little while longer it's the same trick we have seen with other phones for example do you remember the Moto Razr it started with at&t and quickly branched off to tmobile sprint and verizon. But At&t did have the better version so the next couple versions of iphones that will come out will come with one tight one and one thats a down grade for other characters so I'm not suprised just ready for the wait to end..

44. BLikens1619

Posts: 67; Member since: Apr 12, 2008

The backflip can hardly be compared to other android handsets, and yeah, Moto BACKFLIP and Moto DROID, hey, they are two different phones, REtard!

51. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

The post he was referring to said Motorola ANDROID not DROID. If the OP meant the Moto Droid he should have said that and not Motorola Android. ANDROID is the OS that the phone runs on, DROID is the name for certain phones that use android as an OS (Droid, Droid Eris, Droid Incredible) but some android phones don't have Droid in their name (Backflip, Milestone, Devour). Putting the Droid name before the phone seems to be exclusive to Verizon (perhaps an exclusive agreement with George Lucas who owns the rights).

62. iHateCrapple

Posts: 734; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

The Devour is VZW and isn't preceeded by "DROID".... My opinion is they put "DROID" in front of Android phones that dont SUCK!

63. iHateCrapple

Posts: 734; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

With the exception of Milestone because it's a cousin of the Moto Droid.

67. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

That's what I said in my post "but some android phones don't have Droid in their name (Backflip, Milestone, Devour). " I will agree with you that they're only putting Droid in front of their upper level handsets. And to respond to your response in #63, the Milestone isn't a Verizon phone hence no Droid in the name. So far the only phone on Verizon that is android and doesn't have the Droid in the name is the Devour.

76. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

@ihatecrapple LOL...true. The devour is terrible

81. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

1. It's true that almost no AT&T customers want the Droid on their network. Really, the only people that care about the Droid are Verizon users. That should tell people something. 2. I think naming the phone the Droid Incredible opens up advertising doors for Verizon. They can still keep up their DroidDoes commercials/ads and still publicize both phones. This also allows for the Droid Incredible users to be able to say "Droooiiid" with the current Droid user and feel special.

90. iHateCrapple

Posts: 734; Member since: Feb 12, 2010

And have you conducted a survey of ATT customers to back up your claims buddy? Didn't think so...

10. tuminatr

Posts: 1120; Member since: Feb 23, 2009

yet again phonearena is the National Enquirer of the cell phone biz, come on guys dont speculate print facts

17. Legacystar

Posts: 131; Member since: Dec 31, 2009

250mb?????? really??? thats so weak, i'd use that in one day

39. idontcare

Posts: 6; Member since: Apr 06, 2010

Go troll somewhere else. Way to not read the whole article. But don't worry we all still think ur cool cuz u would blow through 250mb in one day.

18. spoonb1

Posts: 77; Member since: Jan 02, 2010

ha ha ... looks like apple really doesn't want to be part of a lesser service... just like they like to control what runs on their phone, so that the 'experience' of using the device is smooth with no lags,etc... so they are keeping it with att because att's 3g is much faster than verizon's 1mb data speed on evdo bullsh**..... don't believe the stupid maps commercials with verizon's "we have more 3g" ha ha 1xrtt counting as 3g.. would love to see all the verizon fanboys trying to surf the web on a verizon iphone with crap speeds like 1xrtt... att 3g is real 3g and that i feel is in part a big reason apple doesn't fight to make other models for t-mo or verizon... still all this being said.. i left vzw long ago(both as a customer and employee), i know the benefits of att's speed and service being superior over verizon... seems that apple feels the same way... lol now, that all being said... i still without a doubt love android and will probably never carry another apple product ever again, seeing as how all the OS 4 Bullsh** add-ons are all stuff android has done from day one lol N1 dominates iphone every day of the week!

33. panacea224

Posts: 19; Member since: Dec 20, 2008

While I agree with you that Android is the better os. I have to disagree with your "1mb data speed on evdo bullsh**" statement. I have Verizon and have gotten 2.5 mbps on several occasions, I know this as I've tested the speed with a mobile speed test application. Also, if I'm not mistaken the maximum real world speed of evdo rev.a is 3.1 mbps, which is only 0.5 mpbs slower than the majority of AT&T's network.

34. Robes1

Posts: 17; Member since: Dec 08, 2009

AT&T's network is the biggest piece of bullshi# I've ever seen! Believe the maps! Sure you can get AT&T's EDGE (1980's) service all over the country. But who the hell wants that? I traded my iphone 3gs in and left AT&T because I needed my phone on a wireless network to use the main features of it! You can't download music unless you connect to wifi around here. You can't download apps unless you're on wifi! What good is a 3gs if you only have coverage in major cities? What about the other 75984758479537398 people who got the phone? AT&T is already focusing upgrading speeds and taking things to the next level when you still have to stand with one foot in the toilet on a Tuesday to get 3G service!!! My brother still has an iphone 3gs in a city with 3G coverage and my Droid Incredible beat the crap outta his 3gs surfing the web..downloading music..everything! Now go back to the toilet, stick your foot in and wait for Tuesday!

35. ding2134

Posts: 38; Member since: Dec 30, 2008

For once I believe I can say to all the haters, shutup. AT&T rocks.

37. VZWtrainer

Posts: 50; Member since: Jul 24, 2008

The map in the Verizon commercials does combine EVDO and 1XRTT into one map because they are both 3G data, although 1XRTT is slower. The VZW EVDO footprint is still 4x larger than AT&T's HSPA (3G) coverage. AT&T won't even show you a national map of their HSPA coverage, which proves how ashamed of it they are.

41. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

@panacea224 theoretical top speeds and real world speeds are never the same. 1xrtt runs 1.2 in most major areas with spikes of 2.x elswheres. Usually in lower populated areas. At&ts wcdma/hspa 3G network runs a max of 7.2mbs of course that top speed will never be realized so speeds of 5-6mvs will b more common I. The areas available. Most AT&T areas are at 3.7mbs which is what u were reffering to, actual speeds are more like 2.7-3 with the 3GS. Also to the person that said most ppl buy their iPhones to jailbreak, do ur research. Most ppl that buy it aren't tech saavy phone geeks and don't know what jailbreak means. Only 2-3 million users out there are jailbreakers. There are some android models that haven't sold that many. Now here's the big picture. Here are way over 40 million iPhones sold. More than all android devices combined. That being said jailbreaking is a minor hobby for tech geeks with iPhones and barely a majority thing. And as a side point that should go to show that regardless of popularity, android isn't anywhere close to the top. It's just the next best contender for OS. iPhone has not just more market share for the OS but more handsets sold. And it's just one family of handset. Compared to the dozens of handset families that carry android. Haters rest. By the way I own a nexus one as my second phone so I appreciate android. But I don't inknits as good.

50. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

LOL...its so hard for you Apple prostitutes to deal with the fact that the iPhone isn't as far ahead of it's competition as it once was. In fact it is quickly becomin just another option in this world of smartphones. HTC/Android has caught up and even surpassed what the iPhone can do. HTC Incredible has already out-classed iPhone 3GS and so will the EVO. Only achilles heel that the HD2 has is that it is windows 6.5 based but if that one gets the windows 7 update then that phone will out-class iPhone as well. Out of the 100,000 apps that are available for the iPhone whatever...probably only 50 of those are worth havin paid or unpaid, so don't act like it's apps are so much more superior in quality than Android. Same developers that make apps for Apple make them for Android. So chill out. Point is there are already phones out that have higher specs than the iPhone now and accordin to the speculated specs of the new iPhone 4 this one is laggin behind as well. Iphone is just a doesn't do anything better than any other smartphone...its just cute I guess or it syncs well with people want it. Oh..well I guess the new iPhone will do video conferencin...good I guess, but important enough for me to drink the koolaid. I've said before and I'll say it again...the days of the iPhone bein far ahead of the competition are gone. The playin field is level now. So hard for you Apple followers to digest that there are phones out there that can do what your precious jewel can do and do it better. Sickening how yall congregate right up under Apple's balls. It's not like you're gettin paid for your loyalty...but to each it's own I guess.
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