Apple A9 chips go against the Galaxy S7 chips: win some, lose some

The Samsung Galaxy S7, in all likelihood, will come powered by two different chipsets - Samsung's own Exynos 8890, and Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon 820 - if all rumors so far are any indication. The chip that the S7 will ship with will apparently depend on the region, with the US getting the Snapdragon version, as usual...
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67. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

The lannisters have spoken the truth. Amen.

25. Shocky unregistered

Competition is good but don't compare Apple to Intel.

54. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

Geekbench is a cross-platform benchmark ** just in name ** It's just a POS like Antutu, just has a more fancy name.

89. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

No they are not. In fact several sites state that comparing ARM benchmarks to Intel ones is stupid. Both use different instruction sets that are not equal on any level. It's CISC vs RISC. Even if PA compares ARM CPU benchmarks to X86 shows they are about as tech knowledgeable as a doorknob.

131. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

SISC and RISC processors do the thame thing in overall - they perform computations that's why they ARE comparable and CAN be compared in doing several tasks.

3. TyrionLannister unregistered

Comparing a mobile chip with a tablet one, people can be really stupid. Next up they will compare it against an intel Xeon as human stupidity never reduces.

17. Piyath_ale

Posts: 79; Member since: Nov 02, 2015

Then why compare dual core chip against an octa core chip and win in the multicore category..? Please...

46. lpratas

Posts: 398; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

Calm down, the results of Exynos 8890 still were in starting of September. And the Snapdragon 820 still going to be actualized and optimized like the Exynos 8890.

63. .General.

Posts: 5; Member since: Dec 07, 2015

IOs runs on single core, because the OS was made for dummies, while Android is a desktop OS.

68. TL24SS

Posts: 6; Member since: Nov 12, 2015

What are you? 5? Quit being a fanboy of Android and realize that Apple makes the best SoC on the business. The gap is getting smaller each year but Apple has shown each and every single year that they are the best when it comes to SoC and optimizing their OS for their in-house built hardware.

90. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

NO they do not. They don't make the best one, they make one of the best ones. Consider the Note 5 vs the iPhone 6S Plus. The heavier OS of Android with a TW layer. Considering all the features of the OS with full multi-tasking, splitscreen and more...the Exynos is way more powerful consider even with the heavy lifting its equally as fast or sometimes faster than the A(X) period. Look at the benchmark score dude. The single score is all BS because no modern OS uses a single core. Everything is ran over multiple cores even apps that weren't specifically written for multi core, the OS is and thus takes over and does split instructions over multiple cores. Argue over the most stupid things just because you want to always be right.

95. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Considere thats iOS access hardware almost directly where android run on a virtual machine. Just thats alone show the power of android phone soc compared to Apple one.

101. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Bad knowledge, both benches on IOS and Android run native code.

66. UglyFrank

Posts: 2188; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

The amount of cores is irrelevant, the size of one core in the A9 is comparable to the size of 4 cores in Exynos chips.

92. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It is relevant because the A9 isn't doing what the Exynos is doing and it still cant beat it. iOS and Android are both multi-core based options and considering the weight the Exynos has to pull and for it to be much faster than the A9 shows Apple is behind. But then again, when the iPhone isn't pushing the features and capabilities the Exynos is, you should just be happy with how he A9 is.

114. tedkord

Posts: 17094; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Because both are used in the same type of device, subjected to the same limitations in space, etc... Calm down, you can still tell yourself that Apple is the bestest ever at everything.

28. Shocky unregistered

They think it makes Apple look good and for many it will have the desired effect.

33. Finalflash

Posts: 4062; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

The A9X is the same thing as an A9 pretty much, it is just overclocked. You have about 2300 Mhz frequency in the former with 1800 Mhz in the latter and it is literally a 1:1 scaling. So it is okay as a comparison because they are essentially the same mobile chip operating at different power envelops. Still, I get what you're saying, they are largely doing that to give Apple a bigger bias as well as more screen space.

51. TyrionLannister unregistered

The A9x is a way bigger chip than A9, has double the GPU grunt and 2x the memory bandwidth (memory throughput is one of the 3 tests in geekbench ) . A mobile chip can't possibly consume that much power and remain stable.

59. .General.

Posts: 5; Member since: Dec 07, 2015

That's why 22nm chips are better than an Anorexic 14nm chip. Small and no good.

69. TyrionLannister unregistered

Do you have an idea what you're telling. A bigger chip is better only if they have same manufacturing process, as it packs more transistors.

86. Finalflash

Posts: 4062; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

The increase in size is not due to the A9 core but the uncore parts of the SOC that Apple added to increase the memory bandwidth and the extra GPU cores. The system is still a dual core A9 processor with double the graphics cores, new memory controller and several other uncore parts. CPU wise it is the exact same cores as the A9 with higher clocks. Most of the information from:

88. TyrionLannister unregistered

Obviously it's not due to the CPU core, but higher size allows for higher frequency as the 'heat per area' on the die decreases due to higher die area. I have read that article. Try to over clock the regular A9 to 2.3 GHz. The chip will fry due to too hot silicon.

53. Macready

Posts: 1798; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

The die size is up to 50% larger than that of the A9 and for some more perspective, twice the size of the 7420. It has a big footprint and power consumption to go along with it.

130. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

and mobile phone processor still win, lol (meanwhile Surface Pro 4 get 7400 on multicore test)

5. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

6900 in multi core , trust me guys judging day is near

6. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

I bet neither of them will run Crysis so those scores are irrelevant

38. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

They can actually lol. At least the first one.

7. twens

Posts: 1156; Member since: Feb 25, 2012

That exynos is a monster. Almost 7,000 on multi core alone. When final software is released I think that chip will eat all other chips for breakfast.

9. Zomer

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2013

And the Galaxy S7 will still lag.
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