Apple A13 Bionic: closer look at the world's most powerful smartphone chip

The world's most powerful smartphone chip, but here is exactly why...
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34. AmashAziz

Posts: 2923; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Come on dude! That age-old question in 2019? Haven't there been enough videos and statements explaining why? Seriously, u need to watch Gary Explains and some other people on YouTube if u asking such a question in this time....

28. TheYellowFlash

Posts: 44; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

Last year's Apple A12 already had faster performance than the Snapdragon 855. Uhm please watch Phonebuff's speedtest on Note 10+ vs 10 XS Max.

42. KhaoticShot

Posts: 5; Member since: Sep 10, 2019

IOS is a crappy software with no expandability that is why it would even win.

32. GuaTech7

Posts: 4; Member since: Nov 08, 2018

I wonder how this will stack against the new Kirin 990 5G with EUV and 10.3 Billion Transistors. I guess we'll see once the Mate 30 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro are tested in real life. Benchmarks just tell part of the story but we'll have to see them running on the phone to see which one is faster.

33. Forthememes

Posts: 1; Member since: Sep 10, 2019

What about the Kirin 990?

35. AmashAziz

Posts: 2923; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Good chip. But the A13 is much faster.

36. TheYellowFlash

Posts: 44; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

Just like Victor's claim that A12 is faster than SD855? But the Note 10+ destroyed the 10 XS Max on speedtest. I guess we'll found out soon enough.

40. KhaoticShot

Posts: 5; Member since: Sep 10, 2019

Keep in mind that's with Apple's OS aswell, Imagine throwing an iPhone 11 pro onto android 10 then doing the speed test or vice versa

41. KhaoticShot

Posts: 5; Member since: Sep 10, 2019

Apple would get crushed

43. Alcyone

Posts: 384; Member since: May 10, 2018

Yeah, on paper. Real world usage is what matters. A fully optimized soc, designed for one closed ecosystem will surely be faster in benchmarks. Especially, when there is no skinning or theming of the os. Every android (even the pixels) to a degree vary on os tweaks. Bionic, may always be faster, in benches. But, real world has shown that snapdragon is on the doorstep. Note 10 rwu shows that, and others will soon follow.

52. Priyam009

Posts: 28; Member since: Oct 23, 2018

Obviously Kirin is faster its PhoneArena what more do you expect?

37. Jrod99

Posts: 729; Member since: Jan 15, 2016

Looks like we need a tech expert on the scene. One from the old school. Does anyone know one?

39. KhaoticShot

Posts: 5; Member since: Sep 10, 2019

I'm just over here waiting for the ROG Phone 2 to clap everyone

48. sean8102

Posts: 2; Member since: Jan 25, 2019

I wonder why it's so hard for so many people to accept that Apple's in house chip team dose a fantastic job? I have not bought or owned a iPhone since the iPhone 4. I HATE iOS and how locked down and lacking in customization it is. But I got no problem giving credit where credit is due, Apple's A series SoC's are beasts. From what I understand a big reason they have such high perf is they have a larger cache size than the high end SoC's on the Android side (which also makes the chips more expensive). The SD855 for example has 2MB L3 cache while the A12 has 8MB.

49. gadgetpower

Posts: 155; Member since: Aug 23, 2019

The fastest chip ever on a phone. Even iphone is 5 years old, it will still work flawlessly as compared to android.

59. Cicero

Posts: 1129; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

How do you know that? I still have iPhone 4 and Samsung S2 and both work flawlessly. With a LOT of downsides. Because of old software they are running.

51. Priyam009

Posts: 28; Member since: Oct 23, 2018

You know its gonna get a crazy high score in review when a dumb meh phone like this gets 20 odds article in PA! Whereas way better phones will get hardly 2 when they got released! And worlds most powerful PA says? Its Kirin 990 at the moment! Same 7nm euv process with 2billlion more transistors! Bias level too damn high

54. kamejoko

Posts: 252; Member since: Nov 10, 2011

990 not sure 7nm euv. I don't see any 7nm euv from huawei.

60. Priyam009

Posts: 28; Member since: Oct 23, 2018

Lol check again kirin 990 is the first soc to incorporate EUV!

53. kamejoko

Posts: 252; Member since: Nov 10, 2011

no 7nm EUV?

56. Gustaurus

Posts: 21; Member since: Sep 03, 2018

Benchmark is run from different OS, so it's not clear. I've watch so many real speed test especially on opening apps simultaneous and processing task such as video converting on youtube both A12 and SD855, the A12 wins on benchmark but mostly left behind on speed test. But in opening games, both are close. But if comparing A13 and SD855+, I'm quite sure A13 wins because it's the newest SoC. It is interesting to see how real speed test on Kirin 990 vs A13 which is launched in about same month (this September). But on benchmark, yes Kirin 990 maybe below A13.

66. Cat97

Posts: 1890; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

We have to give credit where it's due. But what I do NOT understand is, if Apple's chips are so efficient, why is their phone's battery life so poor compared to anything else (minus the Google Pixel which is just as bad) ?

67. Gustaurus

Posts: 21; Member since: Sep 03, 2018

Pay attention to the 3D Touch layer on the display that increasing the thickness of the display itself. That case make smaller room for the battery. The problem of the latest iPhone's battery endurance is not the efficiency but the battery capacity itself. That's why this year Apple removes the 3D Touch layer on the display to make the battery capacity larger although it's still smaller capacity than Android flagship. Maybe because the design of the Apple SoC itself is bigger than Android SoC maker. So Apple feels so hard to put larger battery on their iPhones because their SoC takes much space.

71. Rellaghs

Posts: 6; Member since: Jun 19, 2019

Benchmarks are corrupt, multiple times we've been fooled by companies workarounds. True day-to-day experience is the key, and SD855 and Apple A12 are more than enough! Now lets get those prices down, 1000$ phones are too much. Thank you.

83. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 109; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

This is the most powerful IOS chip. Since it's not running android and the snapdragon isn't running ios how can they compare how fast they are when they aren't running the same thing???

85. kaydentc1

Posts: 3; Member since: 4 days ago

The A13 (like every other chipset Apple has created) is OPTIMIZED for one and only OS. If the chipset is exposed to one OS, it's not gonna perform as well because it's not made for it. Android is multiplatform! Meaning you can edit or even replace your OEM software to extend battery life, increase performance, or customize it to your taste. Now I am not participating in the Apple fanboy AmashAziz circle jerk of 2019 who keeps getting backed into a corner and expects us to suck Apple's dick because he watched a video based on someone's opinion that really doesn't matter when it comes to a long term use and also listened to Apple's keynote that the results are based in-house and not in the real world, I'm saying that real-world performance is the ONLY thing that matters. And Apple wouldn't be anywhere without TSMC, Qualcomm, Samsung, SanDisk, Sony, Omnivision, ARM, Yahoo, Oracle, and many more companies I didn't name.

86. kaydentc1

Posts: 3; Member since: 4 days ago

Multiplatform and developer friendly*** I goofed up part of my comment. Lookout Reddit, here I come!

87. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 109; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

That's why I never understand when they make a claim like this. It's like comparing a Porsche and a Tesla and which 1 goes faster

88. kamejoko

Posts: 252; Member since: Nov 10, 2011

cause returning galaxy note 10 +?

89. bucky

Posts: 3783; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

This was always going to happen. A12 still wasn’t derailed, never mind A13

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