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Android's Matias Duarte takes to G+ for Q&A: "SD cards are confusing for users"

0. phoneArena posted on 30 Oct 2012, 09:54

The topics are, of course, the new Android 4.2 release, and the new Nexus devices that came along with it, the Nexus 4, 7 and 10. As you can easily guess, some of the most often-asked things are about the system buttons and status bar now consistent in Jelly Bean, as well as the lack of memory card slots in the new Nexus gear...

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posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:20 2

34. ryq24 (Posts: 771; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

you're right! htc one series are great looking phone but no micro sd card slot. that was deal breaker for me.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:36 1

36. Panta (Posts: 13; Member since: 25 Oct 2012)

Yeah, I would never get a phone without an AD Card slot. I have the Galaxy S3. The only drawback is that it won't let you save your apps to your SD Card. Wack!

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:07

12. StreetNerd (Posts: 836; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)

Hes just a copycatter nothing more

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:07 11

13. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 904; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

The only thing confusing regarding SDcards is that statement.. That is the dumbest most condescending thing i've ever heard from someone dressed like an Isreali pimp.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:17 9

19. gdogcal (Posts: 3; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)

Best. Comment. Ever! Condescending is the perfect description for the tone of this reply. Frankly, it sounds very "apple-esque" and could even be excused if this comment came from them. But in my mind this is inexcusable for any Google exec to use as rationale. Android, you're better than that.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:14 2

32. ibap (Posts: 780; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)

Israeli pimps shop in Italy? Or Wal-Mart?

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:08 2

14. BadAssAbe (Posts: 464; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)

sdcards are a easy fix, When downloading something ask where to save to and don't allow "app move to sdcard" option anymore. Always have at 8Gb on phones for apps

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:08 6

15. redmd (Posts: 1355; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

sd cards have been there since feature phones. whats the confusion about? theres no excuse.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:08 5

16. bootroot (Posts: 35; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)

Hey Matias!

SD card is not from storing photos BUT carrying larges HD videos !

It is much quicker and easier to put it on SD cards from computer
A 720p movies takes 2Go ! Come on dont be hypocrite !

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:19 2

20. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)

I don't think SD cards are confusing, but they have caused me problems in the past. Idk too much about it, but I have had music skip, files get corrupted, and the instability of some cards even made my phone freeze and reboot. I know it's not a common issue, although I can see why Google might opt to exclude them.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:27

23. wendygarett (unregistered)

That's why symbian get frustrated by most users :(

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:28 3

24. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

Well, i guess we have to look at the "No SD card slot" the other way.

Instead of looking at it and going "No SD expansion?"

Perhaps we should say... well... the 8GB, 16GB, 32GB version of Nexus 7 is still cheaper compared to Apple.

Be positive...

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:30 4

25. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1034; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)

I get the no sd card thing but if these Nexus devices are for developers... I'm sure they know whats going on. Also, if you're going to release a phone without external storage, how about we offer an option with more than 16GB eh?

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:42 5

26. ReddD (Posts: 37; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

give us the options, we'll decide thanks. they don't stop putting high powered engines in cars because the public doesn't know how to drive them! same story applies here.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:47 3

27. ateo (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)

Really? Confusing? Maybe for eldery people (with no disrespect). I always know where on my sd things are stored. This is a really bad arguement to justify the ideea Google has about SD card. Yes, they can be unreliable. For instance I have a 2 year old SD card which started about a month ago to corupt some of my photos, but i can always back them up and buy another SD when and if this one dies (for whatever reason).

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 10:47 4

28. eisenbricher (Posts: 973; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

C'mon google, what do you think, we aren't iBunch to get confused abt an easy thing like SD cards

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:17 2

33. ibap (Posts: 780; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)

Is this guy saying we're too stupid to manage an SD card? So make it easy - all pics and apps go to SD card. Ta-da!

As for having things on the SD card corrupted (earlier post) - I've never had this happen, and I've never lost a pic on an SD card. Just don't buy the super-cheap ones at the truck stop.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:31 1

35. DaNTRoN (Posts: 135; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)

I worked vzw t2 tech for2 years. Predominantly with android and BB. I can attest.
Many average smartphone users are confused by sd cards. How they work how to back them up (so many ad cards fail, due to the card itself or user I'd debatable.) But I find internal shortage is more straight forward for most end users

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:41 3

38. oldghost (Posts: 8; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)

Mr. Duarte is a fool.

If he can only insult the intelligence of Android
Users by claiming a " Set and Forget " SD card is
" Confusing to users " he needs to be replaced.
He is beginning to sound like an Apple executive.
No small wonder Palm crashed and folded
while he was there.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 13:40 1

51. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

His view on SD cards is ridiculous, but saying that he should be kicked out is equally ridiculous. Since he took over, Android's UI has improved significantly.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:41

39. PM8888 (Posts: 10; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

I think 16 GB is a perfectly fine amount. It's obvious they are releasing an 8 GB model to get an unlocked phone beloew the $300 price point. I have no issues with them ommitting the SD slot.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 11:57 2

41. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

Someone needs to shut this guy up. I'd prefer SD CARD on any phone. Besides need it to save to expand my memory for my music/apps/picture/video. This guy doesn't know what hes talking bout. How can someone get confused bout SD CARD when all of us knows bout SD CARD

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 12:07 2

43. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

sd cards are confusing? LMAO. That's the most pathetic excuse I've heard them say about SD cards. Even Apple has better excuses than that.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 12:11 1

44. darktranquillity (Posts: 284; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)

He's sooo stupid on sd cards..

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 12:20 1

46. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


for pikapowerize, after seeing this, rim looks like a s h i t

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 12:23 4

47. Deadeye37 (Posts: 186; Member since: 25 Jan 2011)

Google: You should have your photos and music saved to the cloud. You can download it when you need it.

Me: Like on that road trip through the middle of no where to my Grandparents who live in the middle rural town USA? HA! I had data for about a half hour. So much for all my music in my dropbox. I wish my Grandparents could've seen those pictures I took of my kids. Unfortunately, they are in my dropbox also.

Google: Well, at least you're not confused by having to deal with a microSD card in your phone.

Me: F*** You Google.

To avoid getting frustrated over this, I'll just get the SGSIII instead.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 12:25 2

48. Savage (unregistered)

SD cards are confusing? People who are smart enough to run Android very well know the difference between phone's internal and expandable memory. Not putting micro-sd card slots in Nexus devices makes people turn away from them. If this wasn't so, it would beat major Android flagships any day.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 12:57

49. kanagadeepan (Posts: 979; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

He is telling lie wrt SD card slot (or lack of it)... I am an Android fan and don't really care about the lack of SD slot in my GNexus... But I hate to see GOOGLE telling lies and BS reasons to hide the real reason (Google, do you really think die-hard Android users like me have little knowledge or more confused about SD storage -- Its just a tap at settings at first time and NOTHING more to do later, imho)

The real reason to avoid SD slot is to avoid paying patent royalty to M$ for the exFAT - FileSystem, an extended FileSystem for storage greater than 32GB and also to have JUMBO files greater than 4GB (4GB is MAX file size for FAT32 and it can handle upto 32GB size partitions only)..

Thats why they (both APPLE and GOOGLE) are avoiding card slots in their own devices..

In NexusONE days, there is NO 64GB cards -- So SD slot available in Nexus-1 and NOT in other Nexii, imho...

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 13:51

53. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

that's not entirely true

Apple does it so they can charge you a fat surcharge for memory. You wouldnt pay an extra $100 for 16 gigs of memory on an iphone if you could just throw in a $10 16gig SDcard. Apple is pure profit motivated.

However, the point IS TRUE. that Matias makes. To a basic user, going from on board memory to SD card memory can be confusing and tedious. Ask anyone who's worked in the industry for a while. We've all had customers that had no idea why this picture was here and that app was there. By removing the removable memory, you completely remove that confusion. They are trying to go after the "laymen customer" that Apple has been preying upon for years. Now they are accustomed to apple's limits in exchange for not having to think. So in order to capture that rather large market, you have to do the same thing.
Power users will always be turned off by such streamlining. However, we power users are the vast MINORITY of users.

posted on 30 Oct 2012, 13:07 3

50. GoBears (Posts: 454; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)

Haha they put a hundred different advanced photography options on the camera but are afraid we'll be confused by where the picture was saved.

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