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Android is immune to viruses, Windows Phone is not, says Orange customer support

0. phoneArena posted on 19 Dec 2011, 05:37

Here is an excerpt from a conversation between an Orange service representative and a subscriber. In a nutshell, the unsuspecting user is being misled into believing that Windows Phone are prone to getting...

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posted on 19 Dec 2011, 05:44 7

1. DrMoto (Posts: 18; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Woohoo... the chat says that Android is immune... but the heading says the opposite.... Why?

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 05:45 7

2. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)

Reading their chat makes me chuckle. . .

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 06:06 8

3. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

I have never seen an android with a virus ? where the proof phones arena ?

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 06:21 3

4. christiandicken7 (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)

Very unnecessary news...

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 13:16 7

17. nickjjay (Posts: 79; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)

If you think that is unnecessary, then you are on the wrong website. Kim Jong il's death might have a bigger impact on the world economy, but this is 'phone arena' not the 'BBC'

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 06:25 3

5. bossmt_2 (Posts: 457; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)

Yet another source confirming android isn't a security risk. Sure there's some chance that something could happen if you install a malicious file that has access to something sensitive in your phone, but that's why you have reviews, developer info, etc. I've had android for 2 years and have been hacked 0 times.

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 06:30 12

6. wp7tribes (Posts: 52; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)

Noob in customer support that has no idea in both OS'S

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 13:20 2

18. nickjjay (Posts: 79; Member since: 10 Oct 2011)

I agree 100%. When working at Verizon i saw reps spewing stuff like this pretty often. Unfortunately alot of customers are more concerned with confindence over truth.

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 06:30 11

7. bloodline (Posts: 706; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

The Android Market is an open ecosystem. That means any registered developer can create and upload programs without the need for a manufacturer's approval. Inevitably, that also means something shady will show up from time to time.

It's kind of like another open ecosystem we all use: the Internet. There are tons of programs, good and bad, available for us to download. There's even (gasp!) porn. Yes, my friends, it's a big, bad, scary world out there. But the answer isn't locking it down and having some panel preapprove everything before it gets uploaded. The answer -- in both environments -- is exercising a little caution and a little common sense.

The Android Market is no different than the internet; in fact, it makes the process even easier: You have the benefit of being able to see verified information about an app right on your screen. You can see how many people have installed it, what they're saying about it, and -- most important -- exactly what permissions it'll be able access on your phone.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Threats are everywhere. The answer isn't locking down the world; it's taking basic precautions. With freedom of choice comes a small level of responsibility -- and whether we're talking about the Web or talking about our smartphones, the tradeoff is almost always worth it in the end.

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 06:37 4

8. robinrisk (unregistered)

wow, nice comment!

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 09:05 4

11. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)

well said

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 09:25 6

13. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

Nice comment only problem with it is, unlike the internet Android Market is fully under googles control, so if they come across an app that is malicious they can block it, not so on the internet and since you have to be registered with Google to use the market they won't have too much trouble finding the rogue

Android isn't as "Open" as you suggest, if it was why would they need you to register before you can start putting your apps on the Market? Android is a garden with slightly lower walls than iOS. They still retain control of the entire market and can make adjustments and changes on a whim that can affect the entire market pretty much instantly. The internet no such thing, heck no matter how much the internet is policed there is no one entity controlling what is put on it, people put up illicit sites and the like and the authorities have to hunt them down, you don't really have to do much to create a site either. Hence the shedload of virus sites that anyone who looks into their blocked web addresses can see. Android is hardly like the internet. One is controlled by the company who runs it, the other is controlled by lord knows who but it has rules that vary from country to country and region to region. Android market has the same rules pretty much no matter where you are in the world, notice that some apps appear in the US, but not in Europe for a while? Hmm, see the control there? Internet, no such thing a site goes up anywhere in the world, as long as you know the address you can log on, regardless of where it is.

But everything else you said about using common sense is spot on, just the analogy of Android market being like the internet is a bit of a stretch. Problem with responsibility is many people like to shunt it off when they mess up and want to blame someone else for not blocking them and what not. Yet if they were blocked from accessing it, they would argue that they don't want some "big" company policing them. Hah, either way you can't win...society on a whole is a bunch of spoiled brats. Which is why we have authorities above us to keep us inline because as you can see, people when they don't have a centralized authority can't function efficiently...history has proven this time and time again. Pyramid of power!

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 09:37 2

14. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

technically the internet is under google's control as well since they control the dominant search engine. try googling piratepay from them now. :)

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 08:43 4

9. LewsTherin006 (Posts: 140; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)

Blood line, thank you for speaking truth in a world full of lies.

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 08:56 3

10. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

Well said Bloodline, need to advertise your comment in every mobile blog :D

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 09:11 5

12. krysis (Posts: 76; Member since: 14 Dec 2009)

you are all wrong. the customer service rep answered correctly. The question. wasn't "do they get viruses?" which the answer would be yes, it was "do they NOT get viruses?"

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 12:42

15. Whodaboss (Posts: 176; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)

Two thumbs up! Someone didn't miss a day of english class! :)

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 13:09 3

16. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

while your technically correct, considering there is no proper english in the whole screen shot, i doubt thats what they meant. .lol

posted on 19 Dec 2011, 15:37

19. Penny (Posts: 1672; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)

The thing that makes me uncomfortable about the service rep in this screenshot is that he/she claims that WP7 gets slow and experiences hangs, while Android does not. While I am going to stay away from the Android part of that, I have to say that is a very inaccurate on the WP7 part. WP7 getting slow or freezing for users seems to be a rare exception, not the norm.

On a side note, since many articles have been coming up recently on the topic of viruses and malware, I just want to say that It seems most laypeople use the words "virus" and "malware" interchangeably, so I wouldn't try nitpicking on a technicality and saying that a specific OS does or does not get "viruses" when it is in fact susceptible to "malware." That being said, pretty much all OSes are going to be susceptible to malware, so it is rather pointless sensationalizing the existence of malware on any OS.

posted on 20 Dec 2011, 01:32

20. Forsaken77 (Posts: 553; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)

I'm surprised Microsoft doesn't sue them all the way back to the grove. Who the hell is Orange anyway? Those are libelous statements she's saying about MS products, being it's now on the internet, that aren't true. THIS, people, is why MS is having such a hard time getting WP7 handsets into peoples' hands. It's all because of ignorant reps on every carrier talking sh!t about an OS they know nothing about.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 07:58

21. systamatics (Posts: 63; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)

who still uses IE !!! lol

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