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Android is going to become more like Apple because that's what Google wants

0. phoneArena posted on 08 Aug 2013, 14:47

I'm getting a little bit tired of the constant shouting by Android fans that nothing seems to matter aside from specs. The trouble I have with that argument is that it's based on old, busted logic. To me, it comes off just as silly as when Apple fans continue to claim that Android is laggy or buggy, because both arguments are based on platforms that don't exist anymore...

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posted on 08 Aug 2013, 14:51 26

1. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)

Thank God now android haters will shut up about lag and spec junkies will finally see the light however i somewhat like specs as they are a clear difference between high and low end phones!.....microsoft take note google and apple are actually adapting their OS!

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:07 16

10. Credo (Posts: 749; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

As a Windows Phone user, i agree, Microsoft needs to catch up ... They are so slow, within a few days or a couple of weeks we will be receiving the GDR2 update, is there something to be excited about? HELL NO ....


posted on 08 Aug 2013, 23:16 2

157. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 146; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)

Not many ppl ll like what i said and many r going to bash me..but actually its a lot about specs..Mobile phones r moving towards where computers r nw..at some point every os ll come to a same point and it ll all be about specs..current gen of mobile phones not needing better specs only tells us about its cons(which is not true as they do need better specs)..i agree user experience does matter..infact its almost as important as the spec of a system but relying only on that ll slow the growth..any os,be it mobile or desktop,which doesnt need better specs only tells about its inabilities..the most 'heavy' apps on any os ryt nw r games(or some multimedia editing)..pc is so ahead in the spec race but still whenever a new crysis game comes out it leaves even the best graphic card in dust(just saying,i mean better the gpu,better the performance)..we dont hv enough power tht its going to waste..we r not that advanced..if anything we r always running out of power..so yeah it is and always ll be about specs..and no its not ppl who r speaking about it all being specs..its the author,Michael H who is ranting like a parrot about user experience while completely neglecting specs and wants ppl to do the same..only better specs ll give us better apps with better graphics and better performance..any amount of working on user experience wont change that..

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 08:48 1

187. TBomb (Posts: 846; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)

Maybe I misunderstood you, but I think you got it backwards.... relying on the user experience should speed up the growth. I ask everyone who has an iphone why they like it and the answer is always "user experience." "It's easy ot use" and it's the same as it's always been since day 1. They never have to learn any changes from new phone to new phone because the UI is the same which is why you'll see girls and the older crowd (who are usually not as tech-savvy) with an iphone vs an android. It's simple. It has what? An 8mp camera? That's not ground breaking by any means but the user experience with it is awesome. You always see articles written about "new phone X vs iphone camera" and despite being 5mp less, it still holds it's own. I'm a huge android lover and will probably never get an iphone.. it's my personal preference. Android works better for me with what I want out of a phone. But to say that the specs is the main reason I get the phone is wrong. I get it because the user experience is what I want.

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 10:59

193. AwesomestMaximuss (Posts: 146; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)

Iphone users say that cuz tht is the only thing they cn say..i did said user experience is important but specs r equally important if not more..it must sound rude but the generation of users who hv trouble getting accustomed to any thing less than simple when it comes to tech,r a dying breed..still user experience is important ..but user experience doesnt mean s@#t if apps doesnt run better on it..and with android anything u want(any kinda user interface/experience) u cn get with apps..so it matters evn less(again i dont mean to neglect it)..and better specs mean better apps,period.With lower specs some oems r holding the development back..i wish that the spec race speed up evn furthur..whn u hv enuf raw power that u cn not utilize thn u cn start neglecting specs..till then specs r as important as user experience cuz with smartphones ppl doesnt just play around with the native apps..

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:44 26

33. MartianMe (unregistered)

Michael H is just a jealous idiot that's why he's always trying so hard on making android look bad or behind apple. Just by reading at the headline i can see his envy towards google... the way i see it ios7 looks more like android and some windows. what he fails to understand is that the iphone is just an ipod touch with wireless connectivity "boring"...on androids we need high specs because our phones are real smart phones (computer like)...that's why i can transfer files and download files illegally if i wanted and much more...these are things that ifans don' know about. And as far as google wanting to built android less complicated it doesn't mean it wants to be more like apple ..that is just a stupid comparison coming from a writer...So stop trying so hard on wanting to brain wash people and tell us already how much is apple paying you to post all this nonsense article???? i'm sick of your bs and like i told you before ...you belong to cnet.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:47 20

38. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Looks like Michael has selected you for an all paid vacation for a week! Have fun!

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:51 6

42. quadrazeus (Posts: 359; Member since: 03 May 2013)

Or forever, haha.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:56 4

45. MartianMe (unregistered)

I wish so i can put him in his place.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:18 8

66. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

And what are you going to do? Tell him he's wrong? Put him in his place.. Lmfao you're funny.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:24 3

73. ThePython (Posts: 901; Member since: 08 May 2013)

Hey kid, can you read?

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:57 6

98. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Why would Michael select Martian for a holiday? IMO, Martian selected himself.

Separately, I agree with Michael's concept of 2 threads of Android toys - one for the spec geeks and one for everyone else. Spec geeks will gravitate toward Sammy edition Google Play toys, like the GS IV Google Play edition. The everyone else version will look something like the Moto X.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:59 8

49. Blazers (Posts: 467; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

"that's why i can transfer files and download files illegally"

You lost all credibility when you posted that statement.

posted on 09 Aug 2013, 06:48 2

183. nasznjoka (Posts: 413; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)

don't forget "if i want to"

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:01 12

50. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)

How dare you speak ill of my beloved and bethrothed Michael; it's certainly not his fault that most Android phones are on the high-end of the spec scale now. So, we have to slow down a bit, it's realistic. Face it, Android premium smartphones have surpassed phones made by that other OS(i) in every way, thereby, setting a new standard. We can handle limited spec bumps for a few years. Heck, iOS users have had limited specs bumps for a majority of their iTerations, OG iPhone, of course, notwithstanding. So I say, let us focus on the true evolution of the platform so that we may continue to be the envy of all those end-users having baaa-haaa-haaa-aaad experiences on their tiny "smart" phones!

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 17:12

107. therealestboy (Posts: 54; Member since: 03 May 2013)

There is nothing great about Android spec sheet. In fact, those spec you are taking about are free for any company to use. If apple wanted they could easily have bought the highest and the best qualcom or whatever has to offer. It takes time and a lot money to make a SOC and optimize instead of buying genetic SOCs. That is why I like where Motorola is going with its Moto X phone.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 17:34 5

119. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)

You said it, if they wanted to they could've: coulda', woulda', shoulda' but they didn't (2 snaps and a circle)!!
They chose mid-range and sub-standard. The most interesting part of your post is how Motorola is not buying "genetic SOCs" - sounds like they should be buying genetic, it just sounds so technologically advanced.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:12 29

55. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Always fun to get comments from people who didn't read the article. Thanks MartianMe!

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:22 2

70. ThePython (Posts: 901; Member since: 08 May 2013)

You sir, earned my respect.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:41 4

92. javac (Posts: 102; Member since: 04 Mar 2013)

i have to say i hate it when people talk about how hardware doesnt matter without knowing why an apple phone doesnt need high specs. and why an android requires muh higher specs. You really need to do your homework before you write articles like this

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 17:03 11

100. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I am incredibly amused that the two people to comment on my #55 are Python and JavaC. Amused and motivated to get back to my programming study!

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 17:10 5

105. bonsly16 (Posts: 76; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

Comprehension skills seems to be lacking in some of your readers. =\

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 19:21

137. MartianMe (unregistered)

You mad bro???

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 20:54

144. joey_sfb (Posts: 6600; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

the reason we look at the hardware spec so much is because we want to make sure we get the most for our money, software side we could always select the desires ROM from xda later.

posted on 27 Aug 2013, 16:43

213. rabidhunter (Posts: 90; Member since: 05 Jul 2013)

Okay, I'll sell you a phone with a 4.5 GHz octa-core processor with 8GB of RAM, 5.5" Quad HD screen, for $1,100 off contract $499 on. It will run Android 2.3 out of the box, will never receive an upgrade, bootloader is not unlocked, and if you try to install an updated custom ROM the phone will self destruct.

Hardware wise, you are getting the most for your money. But the software will never be able to fully utilize the hardware.

Right now, and I'm just saying right now...Google is making the right decision by making user experience the focus point. Right now, there are few applications that even take advantage of more than two cores. Most only require one core.

The recent upgrades to Android produce a quality experience across the board. And that's where it needs to be. Let's focus on the user experience and get everything on the same page. Then we can work on the specs further.

As it is right now, the hardware has outpaced the software and that's a problem.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 23:43 4

159. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Although I can agree with you on some points, I will say that you definitely chose the wrong title for this article.

I see the point you're trying to make, but Google does not want to be more line Apple, which is exactly what you said. I'm sorry, but you're just wrong there.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:14 4

56. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

Clearly you didn't read the entire article and just stopped on the first paragraph, did you?

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 16:27 3

84. boosook (Posts: 1442; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

geta a life, it's just a phone. btw, you probably read only the headline.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 22:13

153. verty (Posts: 125; Member since: 07 May 2012)

I personally think you are ill mannered and of low intelligence.

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 15:56 14

46. sum182 (Posts: 229; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)

I would just like to point out.....that your compairing an OS to a company in the article...."Android is becoming like Apple"....Now, "android is becoming like iOS", sure, i see your point here, less spec-y, more about performance and optimization. As a long time android user, i definitely agree about the evolution. Good, i like that (but keep the openness and customization, as well as new features). However, Android is not becoming like apple....google is not becoming like apple....google said all along, it wants affordable, reliable tech in the hands of everyone. And they are able to achieve that now with the evolution of android (and even more with KLP hopefully). But that's much different from apple, who plays a profit game....and that is the key difference in my eyes on who's platform i go with. Now "Samsung is becoming more like Apple", there we go!

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