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Analyst says Apple will decline in post-Steve Jobs era

0. phoneArena posted on 27 Apr 2012, 13:19

Current CEO Tim Cook's lack of "star power" could help do in Apple, especially when compared to the man who preceeded Cook; Steve Jobs was a celebrity CEO who became the face of a consumer electronics device as much as any one person could be...

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posted on 27 Apr 2012, 13:58 1

9. dhawaldamania (Posts: 7; Member since: 25 Apr 2012)

No s**t, Sherlock!

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:00 2

10. threed61 (Posts: 244; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Some falloff in sales will occur naturally simply because the 'cool' will wear off. Apple is gaining rapidly in enterprise, and this should help them for years to come.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:04 3

11. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

They're also making a lot of inroads in education which means kids will grow up using Apple products.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 15:05 1

21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

They were making inroads in education back before Steve was ousted from Apple. A lot of good that did them. The challenge for Apple is to find the next big thing and position themselves to lead in the market. The person to watch is Ive - if he leaves Apple, it will be time to sell.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 16:28 1

28. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

What an ignorant thing to say. Apple doesn't give a f*ck about educating children. They DO give a f*ck about brainwashing them from a young age to believe apple are the greatest and only products in the world. I cannot tell you how many little sh*ts I see freaking out when they see any idevice in a store and throwing a fit until their failure parents buy it for them. Apple has the best marketing team on the planet, I give them that. And that's exactly what they are doing: MARKETING TO KIDS. Cut the f*cking bullsh*t, ok?

If apple really wanted to help our schools they would donate money for books, teachers, renovations, lunches and school supplies for kids whose parents can't afford it, etc etc etc etc etc. Our (the US) educational system isn't in the sh*tter because kids don't have i f*cking pads, people.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 16:44 1

32. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

My comment was of course @ taco, not you Doug.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 18:28 1

44. denney (Posts: 98; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

Would anyone else prefer an omission of swearing altogether as opposed to this self-editing nonsense?

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 18:35

46. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

Yeah, prudes and old women. People swear, especially if it's something they feel passionately about, get over it. Omit my profanity and my point still stands.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 19:10 2

55. denney (Posts: 98; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

I don't care if you swear, it just looks ridiculous when you replace vowels with asterisks.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 19:12 2

56. denney (Posts: 98; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

.... also, why are you so concerned with Apple marketing to children? I don't see you undercutting Nintendo.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 19:18

58. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

Don't much care for nintendo either, and they have nothing to do with phones or this conversation.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 19:21 2

59. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

He's a fandroid and blindly hates anything Apple. There's no reasoning with him.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 20:02

61. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

Are you stupid or something? I have given SEVERAL reasons why I hate apple, I won't list them again to enlighten a fool. There is nothing "blind" about my hate for apple. I can make a case and back up why I feel that way. Clearly you either lack the vocabulary, social skills, grammar, or intelligence to do so and just call people 'idiots' or 'stupid'.

Try presenting a platform or argument and do a good job of it, and if you convince me well then I guess I can be reasoned with huh? But you cannot and you will not, so enjoy being you, such as it is. They say ignorance is bliss, so you must be ecstatic most of the time.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 20:23 1

64. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You can remain locked into your blind DROID rage. Apple continues to be wildly successful because they make GREAT products that people LOVE. They also are working together with educators to make kids futures better.

You'll have to figure out a way to deal with it.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:07

13. mobilefuture (Posts: 221; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

probably apple is mysteriously working on a new idevice thats gonna be in competition to the galaxy note and that upcoming htc phablet. You know since its got an awesome tablet and phone. And just for the record, im a nokia c3 user. :p

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:10 1

14. ananya22 (Posts: 93; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)

I don't think that would happen. they are a company which has different principles and have followers who think similarily. take for example ios which has a basic, never changi nyng experience which is loved by apple users while we android users complain for lack of.functionality whereas the apple buyer prefers the ui smoothness thats why they buy it. which will always remain the case. so neither apple nor android is going anywhere and nor is any one of them gonna take over anothers market. thay are based on diff believes amd as long as all humans are diff. apple will do well. i personally want them to do well as competition is only.good for the consumer and.i.am.one

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:12

15. roscuthiii (Posts: 2233; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

I don't think decline necessarily equals fall and/or fail. They may just go from a great company to a good company. It's unavoidable fact of nature that what goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, & as above, so below. (Take whichever metaphor you like.) Apple needs their stock to teeter up and down. The stock market is rooted in ups and downs. Right now, AAPL is an inflating bubble that may look good but is destined to pop or stagnate. They also haven't hit market saturation yet for the masses of consumers to tire of their products. Once market saturation happens, that's when you might see some bigger issues at Apple if they continue to stay the course. You'd think people would have learned lesson by now about 'bubbles' and the effects of said bubbles popping.
I also think that in the long run, it's entirely possible that Tim may even be better than Steve at the helm being much more rational, more pragmatic.
But yes, there are already so many ways it's become evident that the RDF is wavering.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:35 1

18. egbtmagus (Posts: 93; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)

Steve Jobs is not the man behind the iPhone, that's what all analysts fail to see. He was just the man who green lit such a crazy idea as entering a market that they had never had any experience with.

As long as Jonathan Ive (the real man behind the iPhone) is around they will continue to release good designed product.

Now if their management fails to listen that's another problem altogether.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 14:52 2

20. HugeTroller (banned) (Posts: 80; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)

yeah yeah ya ya true true, if so then I'm Barack Obama by now.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 19:17

57. denney (Posts: 98; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

I know your UID should probably tip me off, but I have no idea what the hell this means.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 15:45 2

22. theruleslawyer (Posts: 108; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)

I don't think it is about a Steve Jobs cult, but the fact is that Apple is a publicly traded company. Jobs had the political clout with investors to stay true to his vision and resist the inevitable pressure from investors to do it their way. I'm not so sure that the new CEO will be able to resist this. Apples vision will become clouded and lose the the thing that made them great. Apple will be around for a long time, but I foresee a lot more "me too" products from Apple in 5 years rather than driving innovation.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 15:48 1

23. Cyan3boN (Posts: 446; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)

I mistaked George clooney for colony

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 16:11

24. annymu5 (Posts: 15; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)

I can see what the guy is saying but Apple will only get better as time goes on. Not just apple all companies. Technology is constantly getting better. Apple has the money to hire the greatest minds in the world.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 16:34 3

30. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

.....and yet the only thing they have been able to do the last 6 years is make the ipod bigger and smaller, add 1 feature to differentiate, and suddenly they now sell ipads, iphones, appletv (LMAO at that), etc. Like it or not, that's the truth. Innovation my ass, slapping a shiny apple silhoutte and a touchscreen on everything =/= innovation.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 16:29 1

29. wizzardtech (Posts: 59; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)

there is only one STEVE JOBS in this world. STEVE AND TIM have different ideas, principle and spirit and that cannot be change. for now, they wont noticed it but
10 yrs from now and they will see the difference. its like CUBA without CASTRO

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 16:43 1

31. tedkord (Posts: 13869; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Well, since nothing is forever, and Steve Jobs is dead, then it's a safe bet that Apple will decline post Jobs. The question is will it be in 2 years, or 20 years?

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 17:20 1

34. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

"Colony says that the problems coming down the road for Apple will stem from Cook's lack of charisma"

Uh...what? I see what he's saying, but that would imply steve hjobs was a charismatic individual, when in fact 99.9% of the people who actually knew/worked/interacted with him will say he was the biggest iDouchebag in the whole world and had to refrain from punching him in the goddam throat. Steve bjobs was a horrible, horrible person and if he was the "best" apple had for a face, maybe they are f*cked.
But I believe Spencer Pratt, Nick Leche, or Perez Hilton are probably looking for work and they are all despicable human beings. If apple hired any one of them as their face I'm sure they'd fit right in and apple would bounce right on back.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 17:37 3

35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You ok there? Take a deep breath.

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 17:49

37. Mandroid (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

Shut up. You have nothing of value to contribute to this discussion, society, the economy, or the gene pool.
I am just fine, thanks. How's your fanatacism and mild retardation treating you?

posted on 27 Apr 2012, 17:53 3

38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Why are you so angry? It's unhealthy for you to have this type of an emotional response to a tech company.

I have nothing of value to contribute to society because I'm an Apple fan? Sounds like you're the one with issues.

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