Ahead of the Windows 8.1 preview release, here is how the revised Start Button will work

Tomorrow, Windows 8.1 public preview will be available, but thanks to the release of Windows Server...
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1. SprintGuy26

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 21, 2011

" For those that are pining for the old “Start Menu,” those days are gone, plain and simple. " boooo this is why i will be on 7 for at least 5-6 more years...i just upgraded from XP to 7 this past year

2. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Why? Have you tried 8? Start menu is outdated. Without it the OS feels more fluid and cohesive and intuitive. Just ignore most computer OS experience you had prior and it feels great. I don't welcome its return but it doesn't hurt having it back I guess.

5. AnTuTu

Posts: 1613; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Long story short ----> Windows 8 is the best OS so far for Desktops, Laptops, Hybrids and Tablets. And you will see tons of improvements over the next year.

22. Hammerfest

Posts: 384; Member since: May 12, 2012

Exactly! All it takes is StartIsBack and Windows 8 takes the crown! I look forward to continued improvments to Windows 8.x! Compatiblity for StartIsBack is already in the works thanks to yesterdays release! (the FANTASTIC dev for SiB is always slaving away for us bleeing edge POWER users!)

30. Darkerm

Posts: 322; Member since: Jan 31, 2012

Bad for gaming. :(

32. gazmatic

Posts: 808; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

black ops 2 says otherwise... what are you talking about angr birds? i play that fine too this is WINDOWS 8..... it is basically windows 7.8 or windows 7 with a service pack 3

6. ilia1986 unregistered

"Just ignore most computer OS experience you had prior and it feels great. " Sure. Let's throw the almost 30 years of experience people had with mouse+desktop based GUI out of the window and just expect everyone to instantly adapt to something completely different that isn't necessarily better. It's like you launch a man into space without proper preparation on earth and just expect him to adapt, and when he complains you say that the entire experience is more 'fluid'. It doesn't work that way. You wanna people to change their habits - you gotta introduce that change gradually. And no, saying that I still have the old desktop is pointless since the whole point of using Win8 is the live tiles and the 'modern' UI.

8. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

then why you adopted to touch screens when there was keypad phones all around for more then 20 years

9. ilia1986 unregistered

Easy - because the level of productivity for most people (most people didn't have a smartphone and thus didn't rely on a physical keyboard) - actually went UP. In addition you couldn't use a touchscreen on a non touch-screen device which had a far smaller screen, obviously. The situation is completely different as the modern UI severely reduces the level of productivity compared to the desktop, AND Microsoft is shoving windows 8 to non-touchscreen devices which were obviously not meant for it.

13. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

was it not not so hard to adopt to touch screen the complexity of the new phone era was huge change and you are crying about one little start button change what a odd behaviour

17. ilia1986 unregistered

One little start button? You really think that this is what it is about? This isn't the start button. It's the entire second OS AKA Modern UI with the windows store, full screen apps, lack of ability to display several apps at once, etc etc etc.

18. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

man people can adopt when given the new stuff then why complain when its not gonna change back to what it was. i understand how many things have chanegd and mixedup here but we cant change it

20. ilia1986 unregistered

Of course we can. Not that I intend to. But the start button was brought precisely because people complained.

23. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

well lets hope they bring it back completly with full stuff

27. SprintGuy26

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 21, 2011

i did try out 8 but not a fan of it at all..8 should only be for phones/tablets.. .oh well, i know ill be sticking with 7 for a very long time.

28. SprintGuy26

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 21, 2011

"Just ignore most computer OS experience you had prior and it feels great. " lol u can say that for just about anything... man: honey lets go out to eat lady:ok! man: wow this chicken doesnt taste good lady: just ignore what good chicken taste like, eat the chicken and enjoy it

4. Kreft

Posts: 84; Member since: Dec 27, 2012

If you just upgraded from xp to 7 this past year I don't think your opinion matters that much on this subject. What took you so long?

7. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

Didn't 7 come out in 09? 7 was amazing the first day it came out. I don't think I know anybody that didn't want it within the first few months.

14. Kreft

Posts: 84; Member since: Dec 27, 2012

That's what I'm saying. He said he just upgraded to 7. He should've done it as soon as 7 came out. Because 7 is amazing and xp is garbage in comparison.

24. night_elf

Posts: 51; Member since: Apr 02, 2013

I think the problem is somewhere else, of course win7 is fantastic, stable, reliable, and so on, but don't forget it came after VISTA!!! the worst thing happened to PC since winMe, lots of ppl where afraid to update because of that. That's why winXp is still commonly used by lots of users.

29. SprintGuy26

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 21, 2011


19. EXkurogane

Posts: 863; Member since: Mar 07, 2013

Took me only a couple of days to adapt to no start button. Heck, i dont even need it anymore. Thereare those who adapt to changes, either faster or slower, but those who refuse to adapt to changes and learn are the ones putting the blame on others - b!tching about windows 8, when i find it way more superior than windows 7. Even some of my friends who uses Mac more is liking windows 8 a lot.

21. jeevan28111992

Posts: 23; Member since: Mar 15, 2013

U can pin in this new screen too...

26. Pedro0x

Posts: 271; Member since: Oct 19, 2012

Yes, Microsoft really screwed up Windows 8 with its hidious metro. Metro is just awful to use, on desktops, laptops, mobile devices. The designer at microsoft should be fired for this atrocity. The only thing that is good with W8 is that it takes less battery, so better for laptops, but not on desktop.

3. Jyakotu

Posts: 867; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

Honestly, the task bar looks much more cleaner without it. The boot-to-desktop mode will be wlecomed by many. However, Windows 8 really does truly shine when using the Metro apps. I feel that once Firefox gets its Metro app and I upgrade to Office 2013 apps, I probably won't have to use the Desktop app much.

10. cse.vicky unregistered

Yes Windows 8 is a lot faster and comes with a lot of more features. But I still prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, mostly because the desktop and metro UI are way off from each other. Say you work more on desktop, you will not like Windows 8. But if you are a user with more use of mail, web and apps, and a little of desktop, then Windows 8 is a great choice :)

11. charms55

Posts: 41; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

The Start button never actually disappeared. The Start Menu (as in XP and W7) did. Instead you get the Start Screen, but the Start Button was always available by hovering over the lower left-hand corner. Now, the menu above is not the Start Menu. And to be honest, except for the addition of the Shutdown options it is essentially the same as the menu found in the present W8. I use Windows 8 Pro on my non-touch screen laptop and get along just fine without it. I do not care it has been added back to the taskbar, but I will now need to click that instead of right-click to acccess the menu. Same as W7. For me this was always a non-issue, and a big "meh" when it came to the gnashing of teeth over the loss of the button and menu. What I have yet to find a good solution to is changing audio settings from the "Modern" or "metro" side. I have to go back to the systray in the desktop to accomplish that unless I am missing some work around. Same with the Keyboard when switching from an English Type Cover to the Japanese Touch Cover. Fix that for me and I will be an even happier camper. BTW...I am waiting to try out the same desktop WP...To me that means the Start "Menu" Screen will become even more like the previous in as much as it will not be a jarring departure from the desktop and visa versa.

12. Bluesky02

Posts: 1439; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

that's smart of Microsoft

15. steelicon

Posts: 318; Member since: Apr 02, 2011

The insider story and my take on Windows 8 being dumbed down - Microsoft is trying to "simplify" Windows 8 to prepare to make the jump from the desktop to the tablet platform, thus removing Aero, the "traditional" Start button, other services, etc., and making it more touch friendly. Obviously tablet and mobile sales are quickly overtaking the traditional PC market and predictions that 1:1 sales of tablets to traditional PC will occur some time in 2017, or even overtaking traditional PC sales. I cannot believe this is happening - Microsoft trying to kill its own products by dumbing it down. I can probably understand Microsoft killing the competition's products (Symbian, MeeGo, Harmattan, Meltemi, etc.,) but this is too much. Making that jump to tablets and mobile computers is the prime focus in castrating Windows 8. *sigh* I call this as iOS envy.

34. SprintGuy26

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 21, 2011

the PC will never die!!!
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