After writing off $8 billion for Nokia, does Microsoft still have a chance against Android and iOS?

Microsoft's CEO decided to start on the clean in the phone business, announcing a complete writeoff of the Nokia acquisition yesterday, to the tune of $7.8 billion, or about the same it paid for the struggling Finnish phone maker last year. In addition, Microsoft will gradually be nixing 7800 jobs, the vast majority of which will be from Nokia's ex-Devices and Services division, thus leaving only one in four employees from the Nokia that were when it was gobbled up...
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73 Comments

1. Johnnokia

Posts: 1158; Member since: May 27, 2012

They did not have that chance from the beginning, and now they started to speak like BlackBerry. Microsoft killed Nokia and WP simultaneously All the previous hype about WP came because of Nokia

2. Kruze

Posts: 1285; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

They sure did.

4. Johnnokia

Posts: 1158; Member since: May 27, 2012

Inspite of Microsoft huge capabilities and resources, they were extremely LAZY & SLOW in developing WP. Nokia simply did a fatal mistake when they only counted on MS Operating System

9. hafini_27

Posts: 945; Member since: Oct 31, 2013

It is dick Elop's fault. Not Nokia. He just screw everything he comes in contact with.

39. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

No it isn't. Nokia was going down already do to their arrogance in trying to develop Symbian which was failing, when they could have simply adopted Android from day one. Elop just finish what Nokia started. A fast paced downward spiral to the bottom.

52. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Nokia didn't have to hire Elop. nokia didn't have a single Meego phone ready for market to show Elop upon Arrival. The ones they did have the carrier would have carried in limited numbers and were already hardware wise out of date compared to other offerings. They could have hired someone else, gone with Android and compete with all the rest. With books that were in the red already. Switching to android doesn't mean profits. And Nokia doesn't have Samsungs cash flow to support red ink for very long.

59. snowgator

Posts: 3616; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Thanks to both of you, elitewolverine and TechieXP1969, for level headed responses. It is fine to be upset with where things have ended up for both WP and Nokia, but let's not write revisionist history here. Nokia was a monstrous, over-bloated company that was bleeding money into 3 competing OS's and no direction. Smartphones were not their money maker, feature phones were and those were dying quick deaths. Slam Mr. Elop all you want, but he laid out his vision to Nokia prior to being hired just like elitewolverine pointed out, and by golly he did what he said he would. Nokia would be BlackBerry right now if MS had not bought them, maybe being picked apart by the vultures of the mobile industry. That would be really sad of itself.

61. threed61

Posts: 259; Member since: May 27, 2011

My 3 favorite pre-Elop Nokia CEO quotes. "the iPhone is no threat", "smartphones are for business", "consumers need a great browser, not apps".

71. runzlord

Posts: 245; Member since: Oct 13, 2013

i like the part you said "extremely LAZY & SLOW" because actually that is the only thing wrong with microsoft else they should had held a reasonable part of the market by now.

17. Ashoaib

Posts: 3271; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Nadella = Jobless talent how many more jobless people he will create? Microsoft did a big mistake by aquiring a sinking ship of nokia... their windows os was already afloat/chaotic then came the burdon of nokia elephant... Nokia could save theirself easily but they didnt wanted to follow the foot step of other companies who were jump shipping to Android. They wanted to be different and they are different now by falling from number one to ZERO

38. gaming64 unregistered

Microsoft is runned by stupid CEO's. Bill Gates never should've left.

56. Penny

Posts: 1844; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Bill Gates and Satya Nadella were the two people inside Microsoft who were adamantly speaking out against the Nokia deal. Ballmer and the MS board went through with it anyway.

21. BLUEBLASTER

Posts: 919; Member since: Feb 23, 2014

Can they not just make Lumia phones with Windows and Android?

50. waddup121 unregistered

Interesting stuff.

66. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2277; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

If you've stopped being so conceited and stopped taking selfies, you'll find that Nokia was on the verge of dying before their first wp.

3. Arthurhkt

Posts: 721; Member since: Apr 19, 2012

I think neither, they will continue exist as what they are now, the distant third place, follow by BlackBerry.

5. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

M$ buy Nokia solely because of patents, they never pay attention on making decent phone

8. SIGPRO

Posts: 2813; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Wrong patents are still owned by Nokia and only licensed to MS!

10. Johnnokia

Posts: 1158; Member since: May 27, 2012

Nokia still has all its patents within Nokia Technologies department, and Microsoft only acquired Nokia's Devices and Services division. Nokia is licensing its patents to Microsoft for four years only.

12. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Actually Nokia has the 16 of the most important patents that make a phone/smartphone work...

29. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

No, its looking more like they bought Nokia to eventually mess them over when WP started seeing a glimmer of success.

53. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

Nokia had two divisions. Just like Sony, Sony's devices division barely supports itself. unlike others though Nokia's portfolio wasn't as strong. So any red in the mobile division is bad. Why do you think they hired Elop? Was it because the previous CEO was so good? No its because nokia was in a freaking mess. That amazingly Android may not have saved. Maybe it would have.

6. Kruze

Posts: 1285; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Nokia could've still prevent them from falling, but they're the one who chose to kill Nokia anyways. So, this is karma and also a result of making a stupid decision. You seriously think that your "Microsoft Lumia" will attract the majority of consumers? Not really, well at least you still earn money in Pakistan but that still won't make you succeed, it will only help you to stay afloat reluctantly. Release a flagship with PureView camera might still help though.

7. SIGPRO

Posts: 2813; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Just wait for WM10, it will be big eventually! It can port android and ios apps :) Don't know why people think that the world will end with ios or android.......newsflash it will not! Companies will rise and fall!

11. Jason2k13

Posts: 1450; Member since: Mar 28, 2013

lemme guess... you said the same thing with windows 7, 8 and 8.1? Face it, WP might survive but they wont go anywhere near the levels of android and iOS.

16. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

He said it again.....give me the link, so i can see the past comments.

19. Jason2k13

Posts: 1450; Member since: Mar 28, 2013

learn to read?

31. Kratos7

Posts: 62; Member since: May 15, 2015

WP won't get near Android and iOS level, but doesn't have to. WP just need be a good competitor with a solid OS and be consistent.

35. SIGPRO

Posts: 2813; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Never said that! And i am using WM10 for a while now an believe me it will be a game changer, no more Android for me!

73. runzlord

Posts: 245; Member since: Oct 13, 2013

that porting apps stuff is what i dont understand, to me its accepting defeat
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