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A more Googley idea for what can be done with Motorola

0. phoneArena posted on 12 Sep 2011, 13:41

There is a lot of doomsaying and speculation about what Google will do with Motorola, but not much of it takes into account Google's corporate ethos and decision history, but we've got an idea for how Google can use Motorola to change the world in a very Googley way...

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posted on 12 Sep 2011, 08:33

11. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

It would make scene if Google where your regular company, Google is far from being a normal company, and has alwyas being giving stuff away for free

lemme give you a few examples

-when Google started Gmail mail services gave you really limited amounts of storage for email and offered more at extra cost, Gmail came and gave Us 5GB of storage for mail at no cost

-map services came on trial or other paid apps, Google maps gave maps to people at no cost and is still doing so

-mobile maps existed when smartphone got GPS, but they where costly yet Google made its map application available for free on many devices and turn by turn on their smartphones

Google is interested in having android reach everywhere and that cant be done if Google makes only on device plus on the current patent war going though one manufacturer will tell the other companies who to go after, Motorola can help Google on many other stuff

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 09:02 2

18. BrockSamson (unregistered)

Google does not own Android.

They cannot simply "kick out the others" or take exclusive control over it.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 08:49 5

15. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)

Interesting article and really nice to see its author interaction with the public. We need more of this from phonearena, rather than the mindless drivel of posters arguing over who is better - iPHONE or ANDROID.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 08:53

17. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

yes, its nice to see the opinion and clarifications of the author, this makes the site look more professional. this kind of articles (editorial is the word right?) are really nice

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 09:29

19. urthatguy (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Jun 2011)

My problem is this article says Google will roll out extremely cheap phones to emerging markets. Someone needs to tell the people buying these "cheap" phones they are glitchy as hell, will not run all apps from the android market. Android will only continue because of its market share. Its getting boring, a new droid phone every week thats better than the one before it.

Off topic: I went into a Radioshack for minutes, took a call and after i ended the call I noticed a Team Radioshack app had been installed on my phone as well as my wallpaper changed to a radioshack wallpaper. Also all the widgets and icons, i spent time placing on my screens, had been erased and reset. This is why android sux, this glitchy behavior gets old.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 13:06 1

38. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Why is it I have such a hard time believing that story? If that really happens to you, RadioShack should be investigated. But nothing like that has ever happens to me at any of their stores.

posted on 14 Sep 2011, 18:36

70. Sammy2011 (unregistered)

Yea that just doesn't happen, like ever.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 10:04 3

20. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Amazing article, full of great ideas and news I hadn't even heard of. If you're right, Michael, a play like that will be one of the greatest moves ever made by a company. You really are the best writer on this site, Michael.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 10:24

21. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)


posted on 12 Sep 2011, 10:52

26. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

way better than the normal "iphone iz teh phone from teh godz" articles we used to see quite often.. lol

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 11:07 1

28. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I'm working on that article as we speak...

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 12:27

34. remixfa (Posts: 14605; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

im getting my voodoo bones ready to pick then :)

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 14:12 1

45. ilia1986 (unregistered)

It would be nice to have an iPhone review with a score less than 8.. to show just how mediocre the iPhone 5 is going to be. I really think that among all the active cell-phone oriented communities - PA and PhoneDog are the largest. :D

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 19:28 1

59. roldefol (Posts: 4365; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

So you WANT the iPhone 5 to be mediocre, just so you can shove it in the faces of fanboys?

Apple may make odd design decisions (that antenna, the glass back of the ip4) but they're not stupid. The ip5 will likely pack just as much firepower as most of the Android phones arriving this fall - minimum 1 Ghz dual core, likely 1 GB RAM, 8 MP camera, and a screen somewhere in the 3.7-4" range. It will be well-reviewed, the reviews will be well-deserved, and it will continue to be compared to every other phone on the market. Fanboys will gloat, fandroids will cry bias, Apple will rake in millions, and the sun will continue to rise and set.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 23:49

61. ilia1986 (unregistered)

Which by late 2011 terms IS mediocre. Did I mention that the latest report says it's got the same 3.5" screen and the same 512MB of Ram?

But yes the rest of your points are valid. It will unfortunately sell millions even if every site in the universe will award it the "worst phone ever" title.

posted on 13 Sep 2011, 08:10

63. roldefol (Posts: 4365; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

I'll believe nothing about the iP5 until I see an official announcement (or a Gizmodo-style expose). I don't think Apple can afford not to do SOMETHING about the screen though. They're constrained to the current phone width by all the iPod docks out there, but they can still stretch the screen a bit.

I think we disagree on the definition of "mediocre". Even in late 2011 terms, a 1 GHz dual core, 1 GB RAM and a 4" screen will be commonplace, not mediocre. Just because everyone has the same high standards doesn't make them mediocre.

posted on 14 Sep 2011, 09:50

68. snowgator (Posts: 3604; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)

LOL!!! And very, very true....

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 10:31

22. BlackCoffee (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 May 2011)

Love you GOOGLE, Android have literally tied me down.. Awesome article :)

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 11:07

29. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)


posted on 12 Sep 2011, 11:04

27. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)

nice article micheal

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 11:07

30. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)


posted on 12 Sep 2011, 11:26 1

31. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)

This is by far the best article I've read on this site. I found PA a little over a year ago and come back everyday to stay up to date. Sometimes an article seems like it is posted just to start an OS war, sometimes an article is posted to create some great speculation, and then there are Articles like this one that prove to be very very informative and a great read all at once.
Michael H, you've outdone yourself!!

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 12:00 1

33. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Wow, thanks! I'll try to keep it up.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 11:31

32. Lucas Carrizales (unregistered)

Mother f**ker I'm going to drop this article.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 12:41 1

35. jthiagesan (Posts: 104; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)

Love you google, thanks michael for posting this information.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 13:02 1

37. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

Perhaps, I'm just becoming more cynical with age. I do think that Google like Apple and other companies are out to make money. If Google did not make money, they would not have been able to bid or those Nortel patents or buy Motorola for $12 billion. They managed to make money a different way than many other companies do. So far, their giving away products and services for free to the end user and then getting revenue via ads, has been pretty effective. Getting market penetration is the key to their revenue stream. It may seem like they are being the "nice guys" by making so many things free that other companies charge. In the end, they need to get their products to the end user's hands so they can make money.

It's a great story to say that this company is giving away free stuff and then happen to make money on the side. I think the reality is more like that they want to make money and it so happens giving away free stuff is how they are able to do that. I don't claim to know exactly the motivations of the founders of Google are, but I feel it is more likely to be the latter than the former. If I worked for or created Google, I would want people to think the former.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 13:24 1

39. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

It's not that Google isn't out to make money, it is still a business after all. The point is that Google doesn't make money in the same way as traditional companies like Apple, and has leeway to do more interesting things like this.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 14:43

49. Stuntman (Posts: 839; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

Google and Apple overlap somewhat in what products and services they provide. Both make a mobile OS. Beyond that, Apple actually makes the physical devices where as Google does not (although that may change in how they operate Motorlola). A big part of Apple's products is their devices and ecosystem (such as the App Store). Google has their search engine and mapping service and email, etc. Because of the different nature of Google's and Apple's business, it is no surprise that these companies make money via different means.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 16:17

55. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2720; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Google and Apple overlap in the products and services they provide to an extent, but the business philosophies are polar opposites. Apple charges for everything. Apple makes huge margins on hardware, makes a slight profit on iTunes, and even charges for its very basic cloud computing services.

On the other hand, Google essentially uses ads to subsidize everything. There is certainly money coming in from the Android Market, but we have no numbers to indicate that the service is profitable.

Given such crazy opposites, it's difficult to understand why so many "news" outlets jump on every tale that Google is suddenly going to buck its entire history to push for all profits. Quite maddening really.

posted on 12 Sep 2011, 13:56

41. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Any person or group of people that come together to create a business is of course out to make money. We all have to eat. But I think what Michael is saying is that money isn't Google's only motivation. I think he's saying (and forgive me if I'm reaching on this one Michael. great article BTW!) that Google seems to be a very conscionable business by offering so many of their products to the masses for free. Who else is doing that to the degree that Google is with Android, Maps, Earth and everything else they offer for free.

To me, it kinda sounds like the story of Robin Hood. In this case Google is Robin Hood and Apple is like the Sheriff of Nottingham. Except Google offers advertising services to businesses for a small fee, which allows them to give us free access to the goods and services most companies would charge to use. While Apple, the Sheriff, is the most dominate force in the cellular world but fells threatened by the popularity of Google's OS, so they're doing everything they can to destroy it!

Hey! That sounds like a story somebody here should re-write. I took the last one, Sniggly you're up buddy!

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