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A change of tone: is Nokia the next turnaround stock?

0. phoneArena posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:22

Nokia has been through some very tough times in 2012 catastrophically losing market share and quickly giving away its leading positions in smartphones. But after a nearly $3 billion loss and massive layoffs in 2012…

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posted on 01 Mar 2013, 09:48 4

20. akki20892 (Posts: 3902; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)

waiting for few more years.......then nokia will be on top......!!!

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 10:00 7

21. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Something different about you today Victor.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 10:16 5

23. Sterijoana (Posts: 32; Member since: 18 Feb 2013)

Well, the article title does say, "A change of tone". LoL

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 08:22

45. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)

exactly.... this is what we call a clear post with facts...

thumbs up for victor...

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 10:03 2

22. linas_ltu (Posts: 32; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

A simple way top become a top-three smartphone maker for Nokia is to adopt Android. They have everything what's needed: very good harware, built quality, camera, screen... exept OS.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 11:54 1

26. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

Nokia 1GB RAM please

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 08:06 1

44. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

lumia 920, lumia 820. you're welcum . and probably rumored phones mentioned aswell :D

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 13:18 2

27. cdgoin (Posts: 571; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)

Seriosly can someone double check thier info before posting an article

#1 Nokias top of the line is exclusive to AT&T in the US due to the fact its the global phone and only AT&T is on the global bandwidth. Tmo uses GSM but a odd bandwidth.

They created seperate phones for Tmo and Verizon for that reason..

#2 Kickbox is close to a native program for Dropbox and I use it all the time have since WP7.. get a clue

#3 I hope your right.. I invested a ton when it was $1.90 as I knew it was too low then.. and has abut doubled since the bottom.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 13:20 2

28. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)

Alright couple things Victor doesn't seem to understand. For my little supprise here, this time this doesnt sound too much of anti-Nokia article.

Carrier exlusivity: wrong strategy?
- totally good and fine strategy. In USA it is important that carrier, is promoting the device, that is as a "hero" device. At time others were not ready for it. ATT was and it was good choice for both partners. Verizon for example got what it needed to join in as well. Knowledge about market demand.

For Nokia it was also good choice. We all know that Nokia has difficulties to supply enough devices for ATT alone + the rest of the world. If all other carriers would have been in, situation would have been even worse. Exlusivity is good thingvfor Nokia. If carrier puts fair amount of cash in, it guarantees that they also want to sell a lot.

"Live Tiles can only go so far when you have to scroll through an endless list of apps with not even a grid display option to make your life easier"

- Typical comment from a guy who never even bothered to use WP. First of all, app list only contains apps, not games. There is nice and easy way to find everything from that "endless list". For example youvwant to use wikipedia app, just hit "W" in list and it junps directly to apps that begins with w. Much easier than in android or ios.

- No apps?? Camoon there is 130000 already and all of them are quality ones. There is no n+1 copy of the same pp. How many the one need?


posted on 01 Mar 2013, 18:32 1

38. Tutut.tukang.Kentut (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Mar 2013)

I was a nokia adict.
Got nokia since Nokia 3300
Then starting to use / upgrade to any symbian phone nokia throw at me starting with the 7650, 3650, 6600, 7610, ..... N8.

When nokia introduce the N9, I also bought it.
When nokia introduce the Lumia 800, I also bought it.

Because I love nokia so much, I use lumia 800 for almost 8 months. and my experience with LIVE TILES is BAD. LIVE TILES really uncool. It's a placebo. It's only looks cool for 1-2 minute, after that BOORRRINGG.. 130000 apps? Really??? The free apps is VERY LOW QUALITY compared to android/iphone counterpart. Out of 130K apps, maybe only 5000 apps that were in Android/iphone app standard.

BTW, sold the Lumia 800, really hate it, BUT I LOVE THE NOKIA N9 even though it doesn't well supported. I think nokia/elop were doing a BIG mistake.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 14:05 2

31. Loubielou (Posts: 556; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Nokia have choosen Windows then forgotten about its Loyal Symbian users,as Windows is to Restricted for those people,the look of Windows phones is so horrible with the Tiles,with Symbian phones you had loads of Themes so you could customize how your phone looks,Why No Radio or Bluetooth Sending An Recieving is also bad,then having to use Zune is totally wrong,so Mr Elop an Microsoft have really got change how Windows Preforms before the Symbian users give it a Try,but with more Android phones that Preform the same as Symbian its really going to be hard to get those people back,so glad i left Nokia after the N8 for the Samsung Galaxy S2 an S3 an with S4 on the way its going to hard battle now for Nokia

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 14:52 2

32. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)

Maybe u should do a little research bluethooth file transfer works fine i hav transfered pics songs through it even from feature phones.

Zune is no longer used by WP8 phones u just hav to mount it by USB cable and it becomes mass storage.

At the same time WP has go along way it needs a file explorer and many apps tht r still missin as for me i can no longer deal with phones with s**tty build quality and unreliable performance which dont deserve $650 price tag

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 18:17 1

35. krimHD (Posts: 106; Member since: 23 May 2012)

In Nokia i trust, i'm handcuffing myself to them forever :D

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 19:14

39. Rafael97 (Posts: 16; Member since: 01 Mar 2013)

I would totally buy a Nokia Android phone.. I remember old times when my first smartphone was a Nokia... the N80, great phone on that time :)

posted on 02 Mar 2013, 09:28

46. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

buy the n9 then, instead of saying it put your money where your mouth is

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 19:39 3

40. vvelez5 (Posts: 623; Member since: 29 Jan 2011)

I believe the stock is going to go up. That is the reason why I invested in it.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 21:57

42. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

the problem with windows phone 8 is not nokia but microsoft.... they want this walled garden experience.... it is not bad but it is not for power users....

being an 920 owner i have got to say that 70% of all smartphone users and 100% of iphone users who have not jailbroken their phone would love this phone

for the very small percentage of power users/ people who enjoy have backtrack5 on their phone/ some things are missing like: file manager, mkv support, better connectivity on non windows7/8 computers... (whats up with that?)

i'm still amazed how you can delete in seconds what it took a couple of minutes to copy...

those are the only things missing from windows phone...

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 23:13 2

43. kushki (Posts: 49; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

While Nokia is doing good job, there is one major reason why they may not be able to succeed. It is MS. They are just not putting enough efforts behind the WP OS. I think the problem is way up on the chain with people like Terry Myerson (Head of WP) who is a typical MS old school and refuses to change with changing market.

WP is a good OS and I personally love it, but it is broken and missing a few big and many small features/enhancements that individually may not be significant, but all together can make a huge difference in one's perception about it.

If Nokia fails, MS will be the reason.

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