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A change of tone: is Nokia the next turnaround stock?

0. phoneArena posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:22

Nokia has been through some very tough times in 2012 catastrophically losing market share and quickly giving away its leading positions in smartphones. But after a nearly $3 billion loss and massive layoffs in 2012…

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posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:29 24

1. rodkurt (Posts: 128; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)

sleek designs and powerfull mid-range phones...nice

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:43 3

6. tusshharish (Posts: 342; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)

elop ia an a**...............

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:54 14

10. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

He's a CEO, so he knows how to handle a company better than you. Although he should have handled the transition better.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 13:48 2

30. yuvananda (Posts: 9; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)

Nokia Nexus would had been a dream transition!!!

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 15:08 4

34. ZeroCide (Posts: 785; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)

Oh no! not anouther nexus.

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 22:09

47. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

the real nokia that people know is the best in hardware and software and will not use other's software!!

WP is not nokia's .... symbian and meego/maemo is!

do you know that WP plan isnt working as plan? it is already 2 years after transition yet they are still down...and still symbian has a respectable 5-6% market share even they announce 2 years ago that they will kill symbian... WP is still at 2%!! and i think 2 years is enough for WP to have 10% share...

the only thing that make me hate nokia the most is that why kill symbian and meego?! i understand killing meego because it has no ecosystem but its not acceptable just to end it then and there!! look at what BB10 achieve, 70,000 apps at release, nokia just need to support its platform and devs! a lot reviewed N9 as the next big thing! but what did they do, MSFT and NOK partnership!

while symbian, they should continue it!! they cant compete with android on low end if they use s40! only symbian that is comparable to android in terms of customization... WP and iOS dont have that... and symbian dont require high end specs thats why it is suited to be a low end OS!

thats why elop is a real A$$

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 18:25 1

36. Tutut.tukang.Kentut (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Mar 2013)

AGREE.... btw, this article looks like a paid advertisement for ELOP.

HE SUCCESSFULLY..... I repeat.... SUCCESSFULLY.... migrate the symbian user to Android...

the only problem for him were, nokia were not building any android phone.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:32 4

2. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

Agreed Victor. The carrier exclusivity is total BS. The challenge for them is to get Symbian users to the Lumia line (not going to happen unless MSFT work hard enough to make WP capable enough for Nokia's hardware innovations and bridge the missing feature gap between Symbian and WP), though I personally feel this may be the year in which it happens. Also, the new "we focus on US market, while we feel other strongholds like Philippines, India, MEA can lick our boots" is totally wrong. Not going to deny that the US is a very very important market, but I think I concur with Jolla's strategy on working on China, Finland and other emerging markets and then then going to the US one. The new Lumia's are awesome though I feel there should have been 3 devices instead of 5, the cross between 620/520 & 720/820 and the 920.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 18:27 1

37. Tutut.tukang.Kentut (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Mar 2013)

The problem with WP were the user don't want the live tiles.
Live tiles is so distracting and un cool.

elop/nokia has SUCCESSFULLY migrate 98% of symbian user to Android. Nokia only problem were nokia didn't make any android phone.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 19:50

41. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1236; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

i personally think that they're making it carrier exclusive because they've shut down alot of factories and they're hardly be able to keep up with demand if they don't do that

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:39 7

3. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

If the new strategy of Nokia is a carrier exclusive device then that is totally wrong. They shouldn't make an offer that is only few and limited. They should give out more options

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 14:57 1

33. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Carrier exclusivity as a strategy has to be the stupidest strategy imaginable. You basically give the middle-fingered wave to ~75% of cellular subscribers so that you can maybe get what, 3% market penetration in the carrier you have the exclusive with? Nokia isn't going to get many iSubscribers to switch. Same for Android.

The management team at RIM/BB should pray that Nokia keeps the carrier exclusive strategy in place. That is the only thing keeping them viable.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:41 3

4. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 118; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)

good articule. 100% with you guys. we'll see that in the future

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:42 3

5. applesauce (banned) (Posts: 165; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)

Thanks for writing this Victor. Did Michael H help? Maybe it will alleviate some of the disdain some folks have for you around these parts.

I personally think Nokia is almost a must-own stock right now. Heck, one could get 100 shares of Nokia for one apple stock,.amd be more likely to make money.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:47 5

7. PhoenixWright (Posts: 102; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)

I like Nokia, Period. but I did not expect the EOS to be designed like that. Hope It's just a rumor/leak. I actually liked the 808 look with its curves and hump better than this. Ambivalent :/

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:53 3

9. Victor.H (Posts: 785; Member since: 27 May 2011)

That is just a render. It actually probably won't look anything like that.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:16 1

15. PhoenixWright (Posts: 102; Member since: 11 Feb 2013)

Wew, that's good to hear :D
The only thing that could compliment AND would make the 41MP lens better is a built-in protective cover [be it manual or automatic], It's probably one turn on :D

posted on 03 Mar 2013, 23:46

48. jsdechavez (Posts: 758; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)

Don't care what it looks like..as long as eos camera works like the 808 camera

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 10:21 2

24. ABDULGHAFOOR (Posts: 104; Member since: 04 May 2012)

Nokia EOS pic is Awesome

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:47 4

8. avin007 (Posts: 139; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)

That white lumia phone at the top looks hot....

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 07:59

11. satydesh (Posts: 71; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

i too see on rising tide!!!

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:02 2

12. imsickwithsmartphone (Posts: 153; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

I like Nokia but it just that they should not focus only on one mobile platform..

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:10 4

13. Shubham412302 (Posts: 453; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)

the point I love is that each device will be updated for at least 18 months.
which is just like nexus

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:13 1

14. nikenturd (unregistered)

Nokia made a huge gamble and they lost.....I dont fell any sympathy for these losers....they couldve gone 100x more successful with Android

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:43 2

16. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

And what makes you think that? The last time I checked, the only manufacturer making any significant profit from android was Samsung. So what's your point?

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:47 2

17. freebee269 (Posts: 539; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

The fact that you went eccentric with your 100x more successful comment discredits everything else you said.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:56 6

19. fly2click (Posts: 41; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)

I disagree. Symbian was the most successful Mobile Operating system to date.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 11:42 1

25. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

hahaha please cry us all a river of ignorance cuz you are steamrolled i guess

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 08:47 2

18. windroid (unregistered)

Would be interesting if they open another door to use FireFox OS for the entry line models (replacing Asha OS). In this situation if FireFox starts to gain traction they already have some basis.

posted on 01 Mar 2013, 13:43

29. faisal8708 (Posts: 104; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)

they bought Smarterphone few years back a company which used to make OS for feature phones so in future we might also see Asha series evolve to something close to a smartphone

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