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9 ex-flagships that you can now buy as great mid-range smartphones

0. phoneArena posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:21

So, you want to buy a mid-range smartphone. Have you considered getting an older flagship, instead of a newly-released mid-end device?...

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posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:25 12

1. xPnoyStar (Posts: 7; Member since: 25 Jan 2014)

What's with the Xperia Z Ultra?

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:36 4

6. Florin.T (Posts: 256; Member since: 16 Dec 2013)

Just added it, thanks for reminding us!

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:30 11

23. Professor (Posts: 223; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)

What about the Nexus 5. At $349 new at the PlayStore still cheaper and a better deal than most of those...

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:36 14

25. GalaxyS5 (banned) (Posts: 430; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)

it's not an ex-flagship, it's a flagship

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:45 9

32. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)

It's an ex-flagship killer :)

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:38 9

27. Busyboy (unregistered)

Exactly. Remove that iPhone 4s and replace it with the Nexus 5.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 11:49 2

62. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:30 8

2. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

Out of all these the iphone 4s is still the best selling midrange phone out of the 8 pa listed even up till now. Just shows that people care about that logo and the high resale value compared to its competitors. I can still remember the note 1 was sold around the time the 4s was, and now note 1 has no more value while the 4s still has that price tag

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:35 1

5. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

edit*it's 9 phones*

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:39 7

7. Settings (Posts: 2351; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)

4S barely handles the iOS8 very well. If there is a brand new 4S with iOS7 installed it will still sell pancakes

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:46 8

11. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2072; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

Still better than an S3, who doesn't even have KitKat, never mind Android L.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:01 15

17. Carlitos (Posts: 559; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)

The s3 has already recieved kitkat

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:14 4

20. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2072; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

Only the US versions have received KitKat. The most popular version of the S3, i.e. the Exynos one, is stuck on 4.3.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 10:41 4

50. boosook (Posts: 1442; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)

There's not much difference between jb 4.3 and kitkat (I use both), and Android 4.3 is more powerful than both ios and wp anyway.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:24 3

21. Iodine (Posts: 1395; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)

iOS 8 runs excellently on the 4S. If we take the iOS 7 and iPhone 4 the RAM wasn't a bottle neck (runs fine on 512 MB) the CPU also wasn't (very light on CPU) , but the GPU wasn't enough to handle all of those animations, transitions and translucency. Also the iPhone 4 was the only device excluded from the iOS 8 update list compared to iOS 7. So the 4S with about 7x faster GPU will animate the entire system flawlessly and I don't see anything preventing it form getting iOS 9 or even iOS 10 (5-6 years of software support=>unprecedented) until something other becomes a bottleneck. I think Apple will have to support the Apple A5 devices for quite some time as it is a rather large portion of their users.

And btw all iPhone 4S'es are pre installed with iOS 7, iOS 8 wasn't released yet at it will take some time for Apple to sell all 4S with iOS 7 (if they will ever make iPhone 4S after iOS 8 release).

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 10:22

46. shamashu9 (Posts: 142; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

I bought a brand new ip4s last August 7, 2014 ... iOS7 was already installed.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:41 5

9. amiaq (Posts: 509; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)

Dear tiara6918, Yeah, that's because there's more people with average IQ than the higher brackets. Go figure.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:48

13. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

True, at my school tons of people have a 4s. I don't really think they care about what they get after having that kind of phone. They just want the logo for their status symbol

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:09

19. Vexify (banned) (Posts: 570; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)

Android warrior over here.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:37 4

26. GalaxyS5 (banned) (Posts: 430; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)

I would rather have a Note 1 than an empty 8gb craappy iTurrible 4s

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:45

31. twens (Posts: 1066; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

Very stupid comment. Numbers doesn't mean anything. It's true the iPhone 4s may run ios7 or 8 and yet will still luck in features than an old s3 running 4.1. You're fooled by the OS number. Please be wise, IOS 8 is just android 4.1 in features. So to me I still think the s3 is much more capable if you decide to stick with the stock OS it shipped with.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:55 2

33. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 1357; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)

This is the 1st time I have to agree this American -favor statement, like it or not, iPhone 4s is still the best choice due to veriety of apps, and better camera, while it's equivalent android phone has no value to sell and so forgotten.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 20:44 1

74. domfonusr (Posts: 584; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)

I just about gagged when I caught myself looking at the iPhone 4S for too long. It has a small screen, which is my preference, and is free with a new contract at AT&T right now... though, new contract would mean not qualifying for discounted rate. I am pretty sure that I cannot sucker my parents into signing new contracts for new devices at this point - so, I won't be getting a free phone of any kind, and since I have almost no money, that means no new device any time soon.

I am frustrated with the LG Viper that I have. It showed me that Android is just too different from one device to the next to be predictable in any way, and that some of Android's powers are simply not available on some models, even if they are from a major OEM. Aside from playing with QPython on the phone, my developer days are done, and my prior scientific career is behind me (until I can finish a whole new set of schooling to go into a new path... and that is years away from completion), and so I don't need the features of Android, anyway.

For a little while there, I thought that Windows Phone was going to be my next eventual destination, but I don't think so at this point. It just isn't better enough in certain areas to make it seem worth it. I won't jump out of the 'Android' frying pan just to end up in the 'Windows Phone' fire.

Enter this article, and the iPhone 4S right at the top. I found myself thinking about how simple and smooth the operation of such a device could be, how small and easy to handle the 3.5" screen would be, and how inexpensive to acquire it would be (under specific conditions, of course), and then remembered that it is an Apple product (made in China) that I am considering here, and that the thing has an 800 MHz dual-core processor and 512 MB of RAM. Not only that, but here I was considering a device that, a couple of years back, was the latest and greatest elitist status symbol to come out of Apple. What a horrible realization that was. I just about gagged. I think I need some more time away from mobile technology. I have got to stop thinking about smartphones and such.

posted on 01 Sep 2014, 06:22

77. jojon (Posts: 360; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)

An excellent self analysis Mr domfonusr, never say never, you may even yet end up owning a WP device of some sort. Wish you well anyway

posted on 13 Sep 2014, 00:19

81. lawsofeffect (Posts: 42; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)

4s was a great camera, it sucked as a phone (can I say that here?). 4s commonly dropped calls right in front of your face; you could see it happen and there was nothing you could do about - if I remember correctly, pretty sure it even happened to Jobs at the 4s's reveal

posted on 01 Sep 2014, 07:49

78. mschmal (Posts: 19; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)

The 4S is still popular because most people are buying it subsidized. $0.00 on Verizonwireless.com with new contract.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:30 4

3. techperson211 (Posts: 1280; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)

Lg G Pro is the best buy here.

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:31 3

4. KoensSocialLife (unregistered)

At many webshops here in Belgium, the Lumia 1020 is about 500 euro (657 dollar).
I just pay 300 euro (394 dollar) for the same phone at Proximus (a provider in Belgium).
It is a SIM Free phone :)

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 08:46 4

12. tiara6918 (Posts: 2111; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)

Add in the lumia 920, htc butterfly/droid dna, xperia z,huawei ascend p6

posted on 31 Aug 2014, 09:56

34. Dumbledora (Posts: 15; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)

These are not flagship phones...

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