2 years after Apple, Android phones still cannot get gesture navigation right

We have everyone doing gestures their own way and no one quite doing them right, which shows that all these companies were reacting and often rushing to get a solution after Apple, but none so far have the refinement of the iPhone gestures...
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65. Vancetastic

Posts: 953; Member since: May 17, 2017

Apple cared about their gesture UI...so much that they copied it.

79. Leo_MC

Posts: 6935; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Oh, yeah, Apple copied those gestures and waited 6y after Palm was shut down to come up with a (totally different) version of UI...

112. wickedwilly

Posts: 640; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Apple seem to always wait for years before they copy someone else's ideas and brand them as innovation! If you look at the gestures on the Palm they were not that much different!

121. Leo_MC

Posts: 6935; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

There are small resemblances - swiping at the bottom to switch between apps - but there are numerous different gestures - going back is pretty much like on Android (iOS uses a totally different way); swiping up opens the launcher (again pretty much like in Android), it doesn't go to the springboard like in iOS; opening multitasking cards means pressing a button on Palm, in iOS you just pause the swipe. And that's about all the gestures in Palm, while in iOS the list goes on (spotlight, reachability, undo, cut/copy/paste - in v. 13, refresh - to name just a few).

66. Vancetastic

Posts: 953; Member since: May 17, 2017

You’ll never get through. I’m not sure why I keep responding to him myself.

64. Vancetastic

Posts: 953; Member since: May 17, 2017

I DID buy and use them. HP took it away from me.

78. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3112; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

So did I. In fact, I still have a Pre2 in perfect working order and a TouchPad that I still crank up every now and then.

80. Leo_MC

Posts: 6935; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You are 2 so far... another 2 and you can match the number of people that gave a rat’s ass on Palm (and it’s UI) in 2011.

84. Vancetastic

Posts: 953; Member since: May 17, 2017

It doesn’t matter how many of us there were or are. It doesn’t change the fact that Apple was “inspired” by the UI. You can deny it all you want, but you’re just digging that fanboy hole deeper with each comment.

102. Leo_MC

Posts: 6935; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

“To be inspired” is different from “copying”. For instance, Newton had flying windows - can I just say Android copied Apple?! No, it’s an idea that Google (actually Samsung or lg) implemented on its own. 6k series of bb has QWERTY keyboards; can I say Palm copied it in Treo? Again, no.

47. hardiksaini

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 10, 2019

Such a dumb site with dumb articles....they mock Samsung's note line and said they should ditch s-pen which differentiates it from other high-end phones...they might did that because apple could never develop s-pen like technology.....on the other hand this same writer praises Apple's navigation feature for no reason....try hard but apple will keep on failing

87. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

They should've never ever made that article. You can tell they crossed the line because even other big tech channels are mentioning this stupidity.

48. oldskool50

Posts: 962; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Well I would say, I personally hate most feature navigation, regardless of platform. My issue with it is in many. Cases it's to easy to activate something you don't want, when you are trying to accomplish something else. Which one is better depends on what you are use too and which platforms you use every day. I don't like the gestures Samsung employed on the Note 9 and I tried it for a week to try to get use to it. But even though the gestures are a bit cleaner or iOS, I still rather have a physical button. Especially for getting back home. Pressing a button was simply quicker. The 3 button Android navigation, simply works better. The way Samsung for me now employs things like split screen, I like better, because when it was gesture driven, it made it harder to execute. To claim on is better vs the other is pointless because they both suck.

52. ShadowWarrior

Posts: 158; Member since: Aug 08, 2017

I tried gestures on my S10e for a day then went back but I decided to give it one more try and now prefer it. I think Motorola has a better implementation but Samsung's is not that bad either, just takes some getting used to (I keep back button on the left).

53. Charlie2k

Posts: 119; Member since: Jan 11, 2016

"Let's make one thing clear: the iPhone was undisputably first to introduce a gesture navigation system." Wait.. What? Nokia N9 says hello.https://youtu.be/nRiPxgqvAxg Headline should be "8 years and neither iOS or Android have working or innovative gestures"

70. oldskool50

Posts: 962; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

When people like Victor have to resort to telling a lie to try to make a point, then their point is no longer valid. Period Regardless of what is being talked about. All credibility of loser when you lie.

59. Allday28

Posts: 333; Member since: Nov 19, 2010

You can always tell Apple is #1 by the sheer amount of comments and haters in all of its articles.

67. yann

Posts: 612; Member since: Jul 15, 2010

This is just an payed article. Don't bother. Do you know how many articles can be written in opposite way? How many years are needed Apple to fix notification like Android, for example? What about AMOLED - it took Apple 10 years, right? This is just advertising article, like most of phonearena....

68. oldskool50

Posts: 962; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

After 10 years, here are the following things iOS has NOT improved gotten right: 1: regardless of modem vendor, every iPhone model has had connection problems with cellular, BT or wifi. 2: Apple still hasn't fixed the DST bug that still plaques it. 3: Apple still puts all app settings in a single location vs inside the app. 4: Even though Apple has visually changed iOS Ui, it remains the same boring dinosaur as before. Much like the Windows UI. 5: On iOS there are still sentences and phrases that you still can't type correctly as autocorrect fails to functions. 6: Still no numbers row on the same page as the alphabet. Funny how you always attacking Android. Why can't you equally do the same for iOS? I don't care about you attacking Android, accept your sheit has zero substance and sounds like hate. Face Victor, even with all the apparent negatives of iOS, you still act like it's worse than iOS and it simply isn't.

85. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

It's just a waste, because they will never do an article on either of those points you made.

104. TS020

Posts: 27; Member since: Feb 16, 2019

7: I can double tap to wake an iPhone, but not to lock it (WTF?) 8: The "back" button in iOS is in the top left corner, and still has not been rectified after years of complaints.

82. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

"After years of being on Phonearena, they still can't get there articles right"

83. alaw.14

Posts: 426; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

Also this guy says there are no gestures on the side of samsung devices to utilize the edge, completely ignoring one hand operation+. Yeah the gestures are not as smooth on one ui, they are snappy which I enjoy.

86. raky_b

Posts: 370; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Ks Apple paying this article, is it sponsored!? I don't see that written on top,and it should be. Anyway, I am pretty happy with Samsung's gestures, no matter I don't need to swipe on sides, but just upwards instead. Its perfectly fine to me :)

89. cmdacos

Posts: 3973; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Well the article isn't worth reading a sentence of but Victor the only one getting click engagement.

90. JamesDiman

Posts: 13; Member since: Jun 04, 2015

Have you ever watched a teenager use an iPhone with gestures, it looks like their fingers are having a spasm. I hate gestures. And I hope that Samsung keeps both options on their phones, navigation buttons and gestures so users have a choice. The navigation buttons are faster and easier than gestures. #AppleIsEvil

95. _nundo

Posts: 10; Member since: Feb 07, 2018

I don't think it's a fair comparison. Android Q Beta's gestures are still under "Beta". At least write this article when Google actually releases Android Q as a finished product lol

96. wickedwilly

Posts: 640; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I find the more iPhones fall behind Android the more desperate the Apple biased tech reviewers get. First, this article claims certain things such as Apple where the first to introduce gestures on their phones, they were not, it is as simple as that. Second Victor is assuming gestures are the best way to navigate a phone, this too is incorrect, it is one way and has advantages in certain situations, but is not the best way for many, if not most. A combination of gestures and buttons (physical or not) with a level of user choice is the best way for a far wider range of users. IOS does not offer this anywhere near as much as you can have on an Android phone. Third, the gestures Apple uses in some cases are not intuitive, but are awkward or clumsy. Having to swipe from the right to bring the command centre down and from the centre for notifications is clumsy for example. The solution on my S9 if better, especially as I can use the rear fingerprint scanner. The access to the task switcher on an iPhone is awkward and slow. low latency or any other of the points he tried to make here helps that. Want to cancel all open tasks, one-touch yes? It is on Android yet not on an iPhone. How many swipes does it take on IOS .... as many as there are apps open? Can you make a call with one touch (the simplest and fastest of gestures)? I can on my Android phone from a home or lock screen, not on an iPhone. The truth is users may be happy with the limited choices they have on an iPhone, happy to take what is given them. However, assuming that does not mean it is the best way. That is stupid and ridiculous and not what we should be reading from a popular tech review site. Yes, it is hard for some to look objectively at Apple's side of the industry and in this Article, Victor is clearly failing to be objective, as so often he is.

114. _nundo

Posts: 10; Member since: Feb 07, 2018

Nicely written. Couldn't have said it better myself!

98. dmdzordilla

Posts: 52; Member since: Jul 31, 2018

Its true that Apple fanboys are blind. They could make a whole article without even researching on facts. can you look into NOKIA N9 gesture based Meego OS, oh i know you'd say its a dead OS. It's fluid, easy and uncluttered. But hey, its a fact that Apple copied most of these gesture controls on that phone plus Palm's and BB.
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