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11 patents belonging to Apple and Microsoft that Android has been found to have infringed

0. phoneArena posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:14

The legal handwriting has been on the wall the last few days with Judge Lucy Koh slamming her gavel down on preliminary injunctions against the Samsung GALAXY Tab 10.1 and the Samsung GALAXY Nexus; Here is a list of 11 Apple and Microsoft patents that the court has ruled to have been used illegally by Android...

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posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:38 1

109. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

If that's the best you can do, that's truely sad. All it does is prove you are a flaming liar. Everyone has seen that exchange and knows you as a liar. Your bring it up again just give new users a chance to see you for what you really are...a liar.

Oh and I'm typing this from a very laggy 32GB original iPad. These things get really slow when you add a few movies and songs, huh? I can see why you are so hateful towards anything Android. Micro SD card envy. Lol!

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:30

96. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)

oh the irony... :)

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:11 1

81. Whateverman (Posts: 3284; Member since: 17 May 2009)

Oh wait... How could I forget the greatest example of Apple and iPhone users display of S&M. Remember this...

Steve Jobs: "You're holding it wrong!"
iPhone users: "I think he's right. Why would a phone in my left hand. Steve, we are so sorry we ever doubt you and this magical device you have allowed us to purchase. We have no right to expect it to work in our left hand, how silly of us. Yada...yada... Bowing... Ring kissing.".
Now that was the most pathetically hilarious display of fanboyism I have ever witnessed.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:45 1

72. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

"...in the next few years the iphone's "magic" will start to fade and the iPhone fanboys with it. I'm sure their will always be an iPhone, but mark my words... "

100% Agree!

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:27

31. lonestrider (Posts: 88; Member since: 31 Mar 2012)

Why don't Apple make a 'smartphone' their patents? A device that can browse, multitask, calculate a system process and give results to the user in a display or displays, make a phone call with any connection, sent a message or group messages, play musics, and anything else.

So no one can even develop the technology anymore.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:32

97. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)

someone else probably did already

probably nokia blackberry or palm
nintendo patented a phone that plays games in 2001 I don't see them sueing anyone...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:31 3

34. BREvenson (Posts: 240; Member since: 17 May 2012)

This is proof that the entire patent system is ridiculous. You can patent just about ANYTHING...take that patent for "portable electronic device for photo management". Does that technically mean any camera, camcorder or other photography device made after that patent was granted is in violation and should be banned? Seriously, that's what it looks like from our point of view.

Think about it. There is very little room for innovation when every piece of common technology hardware or peripheral has been patented. Slide to unlock, voice command, camera control, specific dimensions/design of a product (see: iPad vs. Galaxy Tab)...it's all owned by someone. To those who say "well, they just need to stop stealing and create something new", I have to ask...what the hell are they going to create? Any phone that comes out, no matter how intuitive or innovative, is most likely violating at least one patent, so either you take the hit for the patent(s) or you don't release the device at all. That's some market we have here, where you either choose lawsuit (that cause you to lose money) or nothing (which causes you to lose even more money, and jeopardize your company's future).

This has gotten WAY out of hand, and I doubt there will be any relief anytime soon. So sit back, have a drink, and enjoy the show.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:34 4

36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

No no no. The patent for photo management is how it's done. You can have one without infringing on the patent.

You're exactly right on point 2. You have to pay people for their patents to make a phone and that includes Apple. And guess what. That's how it should be. These companies put a lot of money and hard work to develop the technology and deserve to get paid for it.

Patents GIVE INCENTIVE to innovate.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:53 4

52. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

Yes, patenting a gesture and sliding to unlock. Great innovation there. Cut the bullsh*t, that is a retarded argument, even for you.
apple patents sh*t THEY DIDN'T EVEN INVENT simply to block competition.


posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:00 2

76. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Hope you don't mind me using this sniggs :

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/107754956401440 611752/albums/5760121152570348625

Cut your crap about innovation you hypocrite scum. You don't care. I can bet after the Nexus is banned, and Apple made the new iPhone look exactly the same with the exact same features you'd still call it innovation. I think the only reason people like you aren't banned here is because you're one of the few idiots who still support Apple and all the crap they stand for. Oh, 3G is FRAND but Slide to Unlock (Hell, Google's version isn't even the same way of sliding, with Google you can still access shortcuts, on Apple's version there's only one shortcut for the camera which is accessed by oh what oh what do we have here? Sliding up, exactly like HTC) and data tapping isn't? and owning patents to something that already exist is totally ok too?

To add to that, everyone here have been arguing and providing sources, what have you provided?
"You get the point",
"You're just here to argue",
"This article proves everything",

this article doesn't prove nuts about what Apple so called "innovated", it's just what Apple patented and what the screwed up patent system granted to them. Almost everything I've seen here in this article I've seen on phones before the original iPhone. Get your sh*t together, you pathetic excuse for a human.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:26 2

92. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

This ARTICLE IS A SOURCE. it shows 11 confirmed infringements by Google.

3G is FRAND and slide to unlock isn't. That's not my OPINION. That's A FACT.

This whole article is nothing but proof of Google violating patents and then losing in court. You guys asked for proof and here it is.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:35 2

100. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

It's PATENTS! God damn are you stupid? Patents are what says you own something, it doesn't mean it's yours. If you bought/built a house with your own money, it's technically yours right? But if your wife has her name on the lease then, no the house doesn't belong to you,even after all the money and investments you put into it, it's hers!

The lease is like patents in this case, except way more screwed up.

Apple didn't create any of these, they just own it because no one bothered to patent them before. Hell, no one bothered to patent anything in the mobile industry unless it was groundbreaking until Apple showed up and started patenting every little minor thing that they stole from everyone else.

We're talking about innovation, who created it, not who owns it, get your sh*t together retard.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:38 3

101. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4755; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

The problem there is, Apple isn't interested in licensing, only blocking. Jobs creedo was to destroy Android, so do you think that they'd just simply license them? If so I'd bet that these OEMs would do just that rather than risk injunctions. But if that's not an option, then what?

And patents only give incentive to innovate because they are a roadblock if you're trying to do something similar. The problem is, there are only so many ways some things can be done, and if someone has them patented, anyone else is at their mercy.

But again the issue is what these companies are being allowed to patent. When they can patent something like "pressing your finger against the screen, sliding it down, and unlocking the phone" rather than the actual software code to make that happen, that means that no one can implement ANYTHING like that. If they actually patented the software code, someone else could come up with another way to get the same result, and they could have that feature as well. But as it stands now, they are patenting actions, not what it takes to make it happen.

I posted something similar to this in another article, but noticed you hadn't responded to it. So, would you agree with what I said, that the USPTO is granting the patenting of an action, and not the software code to make it happen.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:36 4

38. ap1989 (Posts: 145; Member since: 12 Oct 2011)

android should sue apple for copying the notification slide down

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:37 3

40. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Android doesn't have the patent for it

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:55 3

54. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

Well, you don't have a patent on bafflingly stupid statements, yet you constantly make them. I'm going to patent idiotic remarks and being delusional to the point of constantly contradicting yourself. Then I will own you.


posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:10 2

59. jut754 (Posts: 5; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

I'm getting a little tired of posting this link...


posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:16 3

63. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Seriously man you're making yourself look bad. Google has FILED for the patent. They haven't been GRANTED the patent. As of right now google DOES NOT have a patent for notifications.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:05 1

77. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Even if they were granted the patent they wouldn't sue you ball sack. Android is an open source project and promotes innovation, which means anyone can just take from the system and improve it if they want to. But of cause Apple just takes advantage of this stole it and not intend to give back, hell they're trying to sue the people who have been using the source of it in the first place.

And if Google stepped in and sued Apple for all the crap they stood for, they're going against what they stand for, open innovation, which you obviously don't get.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:09 3

78. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Bs google sues just like any other company and cares no more for innovation. They're out to make buck just like everyone else.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:24 1

90. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Sure, they want to make money, but not thru sueing and stealing. Google makes money thru advertising.
There was even an article here that stated that Google made more money off people on iOS than from Android itself.

The other reason Google makes software is to be a well known software company, brand recognition. Brand recognition is sometimes more powerful than money, it's the thing that bring in more investments and customers in the long run. Apple however tries to do both. And on top of that they're stealing from every other company (it's like they're not even trying to innovate anymore, Facebook integration? 3D maps? Notification bar?) and not giving anything back to the tech community.

But you don't care right taco?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:28 3

93. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Apple hasn't stolen a thing. Everything they do is legal.

Facebook integration and 3D maps isn't a google innovation and Apple is free to add it into their OS.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:46 1

102. frydaexiii (Posts: 1475; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Yes, it is, but it's so minor Google didn't even bother to count that as innovation. Android users have been taking app integration for granted until Apple managed to make it a major feature for you iSuckers. And yes, since Android is an open OS they are free to add it into iOS. No one has a problem with that, what we have a problem with is that Apple are patenting what they took from other and using it to bully other. And on top of that you iFans keep acting all self-righteous that it's totally ok for Apple to steal existing tech and using it to sue others, but when others do it "Oh, that's stolen." Losers with double standards.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:52 1

103. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

"Apple hasn't stolen a thing. Everything they do is legal."

Legitimacy and justice isn't the same thing. ;)

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:33

98. OptimusOne (Posts: 694; Member since: 22 May 2012)

hahahah you are actually correct for once

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:26 1

114. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I'll leave this here first.

Second, I'll remind you now that Google has filed for the notification patent first. If Apple somehow gets it instead of them, then we know there's something fishy going on at the USPTO.

Third, if and when that patent is approved, Apple is quite literally f**ked, because as much butthurt as you guys have claimed over slide to unlock, bouncing features, and other associated bulls**t, the Notification Center is such a bigger ripoff of Android by Apple it will be a five minute trial.

"Here's Android, circa 2008."

"Here's iOS, circa 2011."

Case. f**king. Closed.

Mind you, all I want, as I've stated TIME and TIME again, is for the patent wars to end and for all the companies to just come out with the best products they can. I don't want anyone banned from the market. I can live with some cross licensing. The judges in the decision over the top mobile OS should be the consumers, who-oh s**t, they've been choosing Android more often. I see why you're losing your s**t, Apple.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:16 3

120. gallitoking (Posts: 4721; Member since: 17 May 2011)

good Sniggly a almost cried.. if it wasnt for the foul language I will say is excellent.. except that your... thought involved lots of 'ifs' which i doubt if wil happen but keep up the good work.. if... you only knew..lol... if

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:36 1

39. quesoesgrande (Posts: 217; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)

Why does it matter so much if one company infringes on another's patents? If every OEM infringes on a patent, obviously, its what the people want and works right. Most of those patents are ridiculous but I guess it doesn't matter. OEMs shouldn't be aloud to have software patents unless its something that's VERY innovative. Google, Mircosoft, and Apple have each made innovations. Some, like me prefer Android. (this comment written from an asus transformer.) Some like iOS. Others use Windows Phone. Dinosaurs can be found with windows mobile. Why should software patents matter?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:38 2

41. Ruckus (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)

Its funny how many people bash the iPhone and yet without it, there probably wouldn't be any android (and if there was it probably wouldn't be very good). Without the iPhone, we'd all probably be fighting over Palm and Blackberry still -_-'....

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:14 3

61. jut754 (Posts: 5; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

We wouldn't have android in it's current form. Android was being built long before the iPhone was announced. They simply realized that they would need to make it touch screen in order to compete.

I can feel the argument coming now... So Google stole the idea for touch screen from Apple!!! Let me interrupt you for a second. Apple didn't invent touch screen phones, they simple made them cool. Until you can file a patent for a "Device that causes mass hysteria in millions of people despite very few reasons for the excitement" that is not infringement.


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