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11 patents belonging to Apple and Microsoft that Android has been found to have infringed

0. phoneArena posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:14

The legal handwriting has been on the wall the last few days with Judge Lucy Koh slamming her gavel down on preliminary injunctions against the Samsung GALAXY Tab 10.1 and the Samsung GALAXY Nexus; Here is a list of 11 Apple and Microsoft patents that the court has ruled to have been used illegally by Android...

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posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:20 15

1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Seems that this article will attain a lot of comments...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:29 6

95. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

There are basically two types of readers on this website. The first group can read the information and remain objective. The second group is all the other types, and I've never seen so many people express their unhappiness based on known facts.

Judge "Lucy" Koh (not "Lucky Koh) wanted both sides to sit down an reach an agreement and it was clear Samsung didn't want to settle. Okay, we now go do the path that Samsung doesn't want to go -- facing a battle where they have been adjudicated for infringing on Apple's patents. This is NOT NEW NEWS ... this is the natural progression because this was what Samsung wanted when it knew it was infringing on Apple's IP. Samsung must now reap what it sows.

I have been writing for a long time on this website that from a business perspective, Samsung should apologize, make amends and move on. Samsung's push in the mobile business was flawed as if gaining market share at any cost was the right choice. When you steal people's IP, don't be shocked when they sue you in court.

I have also been writing on the need to create new patents and how the patent system encourages people and companies to invent. As a patentholder myself, I was very impressed with Apple's slide to unlock feature and I knew someone will get around that patent, and I wasn't suprised when Google employed a systems of dots as an unlock feature. This is how innovation is supposed to happen -- you INVENT new ideas to overcome the current status quo. Stealing IP is just bad business.

The bottomline is if the courts don't protect patents, then there won't be any patents to protect. We need the courts to protect patentholders.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:46 1

126. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)

A lot of comments that will probably think Samsung has did no harm even though there's evidence and a judgment that they do infringe on patents owned by Microsoft and Apple.

Justice needs to be served.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 05:45

132. ilriz08 (Posts: 9; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

the heck even the slide-to-unlock is a patent! i wish the apple would just go to hell. because they copy even features made by other companies and patent them for themselves then sue the creators of that features.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:57

128. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

It's like a human body with patents on every organ's function

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 22:34

138. jimjam (unregistered)

even the dirt under the toenails

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:22 22

2. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

Seriously, F*CK apple. Sub par novelty products aside, I cannot abide a company that tries to win by taking choices away from the consumer vs building a better product. Absolutely, disgustingly shameful.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:03 3

118. ifan98 (Posts: 3; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)

No..Apple is the best...Most advanced..!! I love apple

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:23 4

124. dsDoan (Posts: 234; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)

He cited specific reasons why he doesn't like Apple, and all you can say is "Apple is the best" without backing up your claim? Fantastic argument you have there.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 05:47 3

133. ilriz08 (Posts: 9; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

the heck apple is s**t they dont do their own hardware they just buy it from samsung and sony.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:47 3

127. Otterbox (banned) (Posts: 71; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)

Don't blame Apple. Blame Samsung for violating patents and not wanting to pay royalties.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:22 16

3. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)

These are all either trivial, stupid, or just plain ridiculous. "A portable electronic device for photo management."
Slide to unlock is ridiculous as well. Android's unlock doesn't go the same way or even look the same. It also has several other options other than just sliding your finger across the screen.
Oh my God. F**k apple.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:28 11

5. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

Right? What will they sue for next? "our phone is oblong, so we're going to patent a shape and sue everyone that has ever made anything rectangular in shape."

F*ck apple, bunch of butt hurt nerds, can't make anything other than an ipod in various sizes so they try to c*ck block anyone that actually innovates and improves their products from the previuos itteration.

posted on 09 Jul 2012, 00:04

139. androidrockzz (Posts: 51; Member since: 04 Feb 2012)

the entire idea of a mobile by Apple was taken from other companies!!! Apple dint make the first mobile .. they just copied it,now they want justice ???.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:15 3

105. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

At the end of the day, there appear to be work-arounds for each of the 'infringing' patents. For example:

1. Is slide-to-unlock an existential function? Remove it and the injunction falls on its face.

2. Same for bouncing scroll.

3. HTC developed a work-around for the data-tapping issue. I imagine the work-around is not patented, so Sammy could use the same solution if its handsets are infringing.

And, and, and. What is compelling about the handsets are the hardware specifications in conjunction with the core Android O/S - not slide to unlock, bouncing scroll or data-tapping.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:06 4

113. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)

Also why samsung only, xperia models have slide to unlock they are not suing sony niether nokia in the "portable electronic device for photo management."
I had a Nexus imported for my friend now put me in jail and i will use "slide to unlock" and get out of there thanks crapple for the original innovative idea.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:07 1

119. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

simple answer, apple is being a f**ked up kid who is jealous and scared of samsung.. f**king butthurt company..

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 05:51

134. ilriz08 (Posts: 9; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

because they know the s iii will kick the fight right out of the super crap apple iphone 5.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 16:10 1

137. jmoita2 (Posts: 930; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)

Thank God Apple wasn't around to patent the automobile in the late 1800's. Imagine this; Apple holding the patent to "An internal combustion vehicle with two to four pneumatic tires for transportation of persons or payloads". We would have a half a dozen vehicles to choose from, and probably still stuck in the 50's technologically...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:28 7

4. threed61 (Posts: 246; Member since: 27 May 2011)

This bimbo is no judge Posner!

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 17:54 1

10. blazee (Posts: 414; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)

i wonder what this will mean to android in America if the nexus is found to infringe on any of the patents

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 18:02 5

11. nicholassss (Posts: 368; Member since: 10 May 2012)

REally things like the bouncing are a big deal? who cares get rid of it on my phone and i'd never notice. I understand the whole Idea behind patents but it seems like arguing over them really slows down progress. everyone share every patent and lets just see who makes the better phone out of the bunch.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 18:18 12

13. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

Why innovate when you can litigate? #AppleLogic

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 18:23 3

14. matrix_neo (Posts: 334; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)

All these lawsuit of apple doesn't make them winner, Apple now is the blacksheep of mobile world. Instead of improving more of all the technologies that we have now, apple wants to monopolize it and stop other companies to innovate and use it. They think they are the only one should run the mobile business but sadly they are not capable of doing it. Their dominance of all lawsuit will come to an end, perhaps sooner. Being a blacksheep never succed, they will be doomed hopefully next year. Just saying...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 18:30 1

15. aahmed215 (Posts: 168; Member since: 18 Jun 2012)

Capitalism gone wrong again.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 18:30 9

16. ron1niro (Posts: 54; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)

I don't understand fanboys. Let me give you a scenario; Google invests time and money into making android. They try to make it as user friendly as they can, they add features that will differentiate it from ios or windows phone. Some of those features, they want to keep exclusive to android and so they make them patents which means that for any one else to use them, they have to seek permission from google and if google accepts, then they have to be paid. Now, Mr apple who makes ios identifies one of those features of android and uses it in ios without google's permission. Google has the right to take apple to court because they have used their intellectual property without permission. No matter how small a feature might look to you, it helps in selling a product. If apple and microsoft thought that the infrigement was insignificant, they wouldn't have gone to court. Google has very few patents compared to other tech giants like microsoft, apple, nokia and sony. That is why they never take anyone to court because no one will infringe on what you don't have. It doesn't mean that they are the good guys, it just means that nobody copies anything from them while they copy a lot from others. Simple as that.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 18:54 8

20. tedkord (Posts: 14114; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

So you're saying that, hypothetically, if Apple had a crappy notification system that users didn't like, and they saw a nice, funtional one on Android, and they ripped it off,...wait, what was the point?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:14 3

23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

You know what the point is...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 19:24 3

27. LOLpple (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

That you're a moron AND a WELCHER? Is that the point or just a fact of life?

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 20:08 1

58. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)

Meant to thumbs up. Sorry.

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