Verizon Galaxy Nexus vs Motorola DROID RAZR
0. phoneArena 23 Dec 2011, 04:32 posted on
Out of all the national carriers in the US, there’s no kidding that Verizon’s lineup is saturated to the top with some of the industry’s leading devices! Amongst the highly competitive devices, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Motorola DROID RAZR stand out immensely thanks to their specialty refinements, but considering that our appetites are voracious, there can only be one that can be proclaimed as being the best of the best...
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120. jroc74 (Posts: 5652; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
And if Moto is notorious for inflating the signal and bars...when it says -120 on my Droid 1 and RAZR and I get no service that must be wrong. When it shows in the mid -90's and higher and data and phone use can start getting sketchy must be wrong then.
When it shows -55 I get an absolutely great signal and thats wrong too.
So for years -110, -120 wasnt good for voice service...and all of a sudden because the G Nex wants to show the LTE signal, and disregard the other signals the phone uses...everyone else is doing it wrong?
I hate to say this but its amazing how some ppl called it with the Galaxy S 2 ...saying the G Nex has bought out blind fanboy ways in some of us. Only thing thats gonna happen after the update is when they see the same readings as other phones and see how their G Nex doesnt work as good as other phones in bad reception areas....it will just confirm Samsung's rep for weak reception. Thats all. Right now it can be blamed on the "accurate" LTE signal.
121. jinwons (Posts: 95; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
It was not Samsung's decision to put out LTE signal on Gnex. It's probably Google since they are running the show on software side of it. And the phone signal reception on Gnex is just fine regardless of signal reading.
110. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
There is NO QUESTION who's KING of ANDROID as well as VERIZON that is the GALAXY NEXUS. But yes as far as reception goes that would be the HTC REZOUND followed by the DROID RAZR...I am happy I have the GALAXY NEXUS it offers far more than any silly razr that's for sure...
111. SoopaManLuv (Posts: 24; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)
Opinions r like assholes. We all have em and they all stink. If u want a Razr get a Razr. If u want Nexus get a Nexus. Both seem like great phones and at tha end of tha day its all about user preference. Me, Nexus all tha way. Y? Cause that's what I want. Not what Joe Blow says I should get or because PA says its "the phone of the yr". But because I want it. Simple as that. U guys need 2 get over urselfs cause Bob says this is better than that or Mike says that's better than this. Who cares. Remember, they make different phones cause peoples wants/needs r different. If they didn't make different phones what fun would that b?
112. SoopaManLuv (Posts: 24; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)
Sn: y does everybody keep bringing up the SGSII? Its not even offered on Verizon so what tha hell is tha point of bringing it up? Especially when tha comparison is clearly between 2 Verizon phones?!? I mean, really? Jus saying...
122. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
PhoneArena you guys need to get rid of your sign when comparing pictures because I can still see the phonearena see through name on both phones. But I still like the RAZR cause of its thinness
127. rjbp64 (Posts: 28; Member since: 15 Dec 2011)
i just hope thatthe people who have either phones are truly happy and arent saying what if.... thats the worst.
129. hreppert (Posts: 2; Member since: 20 May 2011)
I think reviewers seldom pay enough attention to build quality. My Droid Razr functions beautifully and its ruggedized casement and moisture resistence better assures a long life. Samsung's build seems more vulnerable by comparison.
133. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
I think the reviwer has done the best job here in comparing these two high end devices.The reviewer has clearly said that If razr gets ICS,it will sure be the winner. Although, some people may arguably say that Nexus is better "right at this very moment" because of ICS itself, nothing else, this situation is going to be changed in the next month or so when Razr gets ICS. The Nexus owner can only hold the crown for a month should they so wish than they will have to handover the crown to the Razr. When razr gets ICS next month or so, the nexus owner will regret why they did not choose the Razr in first hand. Nexus may arguably be the best within this month or two but in the long run into the following 2 to 3 years, Razr will surely be better than the nexus in all aspects.
134. gtrxman (Posts: 122; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
I'm totally happy with my RAZR. I considered the Nexus, but no matter what anyone says, I just can't warm up to the plastic feel, particularly on a $300 phone. Specification-wise, I think for the benchmark phone, Google should have really raised the bar, and this Nexus, does not. The fact that the Nexus has ICS was not important to me since Moto promised that the RAZR would get ICS.
With respect to the differences between the phones, the higher resolution screen on the Nexus is nice, but for me, it doesn't offer much in the way of daily use. The screen on the RAZR is beautiful, just not as high a resolution. Who really needs 720p on a 4" screen anyway? In terms of build quality, there is simply no comparison. The RAZR is head and shoulders above the Nexus. Performance-wise, multiple reviews have shown that the RAZR has a top notch radio, typical of Moto. The Nexus is brought down by the mostly average Samsung radio. The real deciding factor, though, was the extra apps and ecosystem that Moto brought to the table. Lapdock, HD Dock, Motoprint, Motocast and Smart Actions make this phone, at least for me, the best out there.
136. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
last line says it all, if razr had ics, it would win
it doesnt so nexus wins
137. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
That motorola has just received "Smart phone of the year 2011" verison android central and The nexus is only the runners up.
The Raza has won Nexus even without ICS. ICS in nexus is the only area that is more superior than the Razr. Apart from that,the nexus either draws with the Razr or lags behind the Razr in most areas in terms of built quality and durability, OS performance, battery life, 4G connectivity and call quality , storage capacity as well as other practical functions like Smart actions, motocast, labdock, motoprint, etc.
Some typical examples where they are both draw are in the hardware specification such as Processor, GPU and more or less the same chip (OMAP 44300 vs OMAP 4460). The Nexus has a slightly bigger display and pixel resolution but the same pantile display which can hardly show the visible different between the two in most daily uses.
The Razr was built with premium materials such as aluminium and stainless steel as well as splash and water resistant materials which the Nexus is built from mostly plastic which is going to lose it shineness over years.
The Motorola running in th latest gingerbread 2.3.5 performs faster than ICS runnng on ICS 4.0. This includes, quardrant standard test, unoffical app. opening test, You tube load up test, netfix and flash video load up test and also browser load up test, etc. The razr performs faster in most of these functions, if not all. Although the multitasking and user interface looks very good in ICS4, the Razr has an ease-of-use User interface with 3-dimensional feel which is also amazing. It performs with no lag at all. In the end,this spoils down to personal preference rather than comparing which one is better.
Camera performance looks very much the same with the recent update from verison which fixed the shutter lag problem on the razr, but the Nesus took a video at a slower frame rate as the Razr. So razr is better in this aspect.
Call quality and earpiece volume and reception performance have been proven by user experience that the Razr is far better than the Nexus. battery life has been superior in the Razr as reported from other user experiences, so non removable battery is not a problem at all with a simple hard reset procedure in place.
The Razr has microSD card slot which can expand the available storage capacity to a total of 48GB at least, whereas Nexus only come with 32GB storage maximum.
In terms of practicality and functionality, the Nexus has NFC which the Razr does not have. However, the Razr also has exclusive functions such as Smart actions,motocast, labdock, HDMI outport for TV. All these functions do not exist in the Nexus.
Hence the razr has more advantages over nexus. It is ironic fact that as it is right now, The razr is much better phone taking into account all the above mentioned advantages even without ICS installed, not to mention after Razr received ICS and running with the basically same hardware as the Nexus.
141. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
Gee, let's just throw out random websites then: TheVerge, Anandtech, BGR, Phonearena, Engadget all endorse the Nexus over the Razr.
The Razr cannot be seriously marketed to the enthusiast crowd seeing as it is the same hardware as the Bionic wrapped into a prettier package. ICS 6 months from now? Why even bother? With a locked bootloader? Why on earth would an enthusiast pick this device?
But I guess if you are using "shininess" as a comparison factor, maybe the Razr is the right phone for you.
142. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
The are still many other web site out there which have endorsed the Razr is overall better than Nexus. Typical examples are pocketnow, GSMarena and Android Central. The Razr has even won the " 2011 best phone of the year" award by Android central, and the Nexus is only the runner up.- Go to adroidcentral to check it out.
Even Engaget and Anandtech have endorsed that Razr only needs ICS to get even better and phonearena here has clearly mentioned that Razr is overall winner once it has got ICS next month.
Dont forget that Motorola has publicily announced on the web site that ICS will be available for their new devices 6 weeks after Google has released the final version of ICS. So we are more than likely to see ICS released for their new devices, including the Razr of course, within January or February 2012.By that time, Nexus will have no legs up against the Razr.
Even Verizon has delayed the certification process and we get ICS after 6 months from now , the Nexus will also become obsolete by then. it will merely be a 6-month old plastic box running on ICS, same fate with the Razr, so there are no legs up against Razr. When both devices are running ICS, the Nexus will look and feel more obsolete and aging with its lousy and shineless plastic look and feel while the razr will still be able to substain its look ane durability with their metal built . The curved surface on the Nexus screen will make its look even worst after aging, just like the Nexus S. In the long one, it will be the durability and built quality factor of the devices coming into play, unless people are looking at update to an even better phone after 2 years contract with Verizon on their Nexus and upgrade to a better device like Samsung galaxy S3 or S4 or the latest Googlerola Nexus.
Lastly, procedure for rooting the Droid razr has already been released so for the modding emthasist, it is not a problem. beside, motorola is now part of Google company, it will more or less ahve advantages regarding any new roms update , so modding the device is purely not necessary at all.
145. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
It lacks ICS
ICS will likely not be coming until 6 months from now (keep deluding yourself it will be available next week)
Nexus devices continue to receive outstanding support from Google and will be in line for the Jellybean update
But hey, if you want to hang your hat on shininess and imaginary timely updates, more power to you
138. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
see anandtech's review
the razr = better clad bionic
wait 6 months for ics and its basically obsolete
plus locked bootloaded
143. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Nexus will also become obsolete after 6 months, it is merely a large plastic box running on ICS, nothing superficial., therefore, no legs up against razr. The curved surface and plastic look and feeling will make it look more aging than a Razr after 6 months while razr still remain its shininess on the look because of the metal body construction.
Modding is purely not necessy for me at all with both phones running ICS on basically the same hardware and software,and procedure for rooting is already availble for rooting and unlocking the boot loader of the razr, should the modding community want to do it.
therefore razr wins.
144. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
still going with shininess huh? you ought to stick with a razr then, clearly not an advanced user
you do realize nexus devices are the first to receive all updates? enjoy the lag in your updates
you do realize the razr still has a locked bootloader? even the rezound has a headsup on you
but yeah, keep touting the shininess, it should make you feel better about your purchass
148. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
If you feel that update and rooting to a phone are more important to you than the built quality and durability, than go ahead to get the Nexus, no problem.
I paid $299 dollars for a phone I want it to last longer than 2 years. I will not do rooting as I dont want to void the warranty, so bootloader is not something I will consider. Also, paying $299 to get a piece of plastic phone like Nexus , even for 2 years is simply not that convincing to me. Value for money, Got it? I enjoy my new razr and have no regrets. It works just so well now that I really dont care when I can update to ICS in the near future as i will get it anyway. I am just a normal user.
Did you know that Google has purchased motorola mobility? What does that mean? That means Motorola will have the advantage of releasing updates as quick as google if not the quickest. But it will be at least faster than other manufacturer.Unless, verizon has hindered the certification process which I agree may happen, but it would not take up to 6 months for sure becasue of the google acquisition .
Do you realise that if you phone quality is not durable, it will not last long? It does not matter how fast you can get updates and how good you can root it, if it gest damage or broken or spilled by water, and it does not cover by warranty, then it is a lost in the end. Again, value for money. Right?
In the end, I am just using the word "shininess" to amplify the importance of the built quality and durabity of a phone rather than updates or rooting. nothing else.unless people are ready to change phone every 2 years.
Just my opinions! Got it?
Enjoy your Nexus, cheers!
149. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
"The unfortunate reality is that the RAZR released at quite possibly the worst moment in the Android release schedule. It’s difficult to sell the enthusiast crowd on the same hardware platform in another physical package, and at the same time running a version of Android that’s behind a handset whose release is imminent. The latest crop of Motorola phones will get their well-deserved Android 4.0 upgrade, but 6 months is admittedly a long time to wait and having a locked bootloader makes sidestepping the carrier and OEM testing period overhead impossible as well."
Anandtech nails it on the head.
156. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
The razr indeed came with an unlocked loader, go to look at the internatioanl GSM version, they all ahve the unloaded bootloader enable so that people can inport customised ICS rom into the Razr before the actual offical is released.
It is only that the verizon has opted to locked the phone, that will have no affect to the world wide competition between the Nexus and the razr.
155. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
The motorola will receive update as quick as Nexus because it is a Google's company now.
Let the future prove that.
Do you know that Razr is the first phone from motorola taht came with an unlocked bootloader, do your home work before you write. It is only verizon which has made the bootloader locked, not motorola. All international version have the bootloader unlocked.Therefore, all Razr other than those sold by Verizon (which is only a small proportion) can get ICS 4 rom or any subsequent updated loaded into the razr.
So even on these two points regarding update and unlockbootloader, Nexus still have no advantage over the razr, not to mention about the overall general physical package which is truely inferior than the razr.
162. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Do u realise that Nexus running ICS got more constantly random reboot issues than the razr?
Do u know that all international versions of razr has the bootloader unknocked?
The fact that Razr gets ICS at a later date certainly has advantages as it will allow Google to come up with the solution to fix the constantly random reboot problem before it is updated to tehrazr and any other smart phones eligble for teh updates.
139. BattleBrat (Posts: 1302; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I should also mention (and I feel this has been overlooked) The RAZR has Bluetooth 4.0, just like the iPhone, which if memory serves gives you like 300ft of Bluetooth range, and cuts sync time down to nothing. The Nexus has Bluetooth 3.0
140. presoct (Posts: 1; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)
I have and use over 3,000 contacts. Anyone have an opinion about which of these phones handles that many best? And which searches them most effectively and quickly?
Also, i find the Android calendar awkward to search. Any suggestions there?
146. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
I guess the battle between the Razr and the Nexus merely spoils down to the ICS OS software, not the actual hardware device itself because it is almost certain that if the Nexus comes running with gingerbread 2.3.5, it would surely be losing the battle to the razr immediately. Now, it all depends on whether people out there want the new ICS 4 (still with bugs) right at this very moment or whether they can wait one to 2 months to get a bug fixed ICS. It is all up to the phone users out there to pick.
In my opinion,the bottom line is that none of these two phones are truely invincible. They will both become obsolete after 8 months even running on ICS and will be easily outplaced by any subsequent android devices in the market by then. It is a matter of how long you can live with your Nexus or Razr and how long you want to keep them. if people only want to keep the phone for 2 years only and upgrade to a more power device after teh contract ends, than durability or built quality is not of a concern at all and Nexus will surely be the right choice. if someone wants to keep the phone for more than the 2 year contract, then the razr with its more durable, classy and metal construction will surely be the better one to pick.
147. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
2 months? try closer to 6
razr = fantastic hardware limited by no ICS
150. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Well, let look at the reality in the coming months to see how much the Galaxy Nexus can outsell the Razr.
If people cannot wait and feel that ICS is an absolutely must have right now and can afford to upgrade their device every
2 years, then go ahead with the Nexus, no problem.
To me, Razr is such a fantastic device, althought lack ICS at this very moment, it does not bother me at all as it already runs so good. After upgrading to ICS within the next few months, I can have this fantastic device to run for at least a few more years to come before my next upgrade.
151. jinwons (Posts: 95; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
Seems like you are married to Razr. Lol.
Even in hardwares, hard to say it's better than Nexus. HD > qHD, OMAP 4460 > OMAP 4430 with no room for OC.
And at the rate Moto is churning out phones every two months, Razr will be quickly obsolete by the time it gets ICS. Nexus will be obsolete in hardware too, but it will receive the latest Androids long after all other current devices stop getting updated.
152. asmallchild (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Jan 2012)
Razr MAXX is en route
I see bitterness in his future ha
163. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Nexus = getting constantly random reboot many times with no reasons and patterns and without any solution.
razr= getting the latest ICS with no randomly reboot issue.
nexus, no thnaks. Too much headage.
153. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Actually Razr is the very first phone which has been included a fully implemented lock/unlock bootloader software from Motorola. However, it is Verizon network here in the U.S. which opt. to disable the bootloader unlock option. I don't know why Versizon has opted to do this on their flagship device Razr but not on the Galaxy Nexus. The international version of Razr sold in Australia and other parts of the world all came with the lock/unlock bootloader software . So the enthasiast crowd in other part of the world will now be able to load the ICS custom ROM into their Razr as soon as it becomes available should they so wish rather than have to wait for 2 to 6 months here as other people mentioned. While the razr may be loosing its sales to the Nexus here in the US, It will certainly be able to compete very well with the Nexus if it is priced right
as it has no more restriction from the ICS update anymore.
157. Jarahawk (Posts: 43; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)
"I do miss how the Razr worked so much better"
Sounds like the Razr wins to me.
161. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
Now with so many user complaints and reports regarding the constantly random reboot issues out of unknown reason for the Verizon Galaxy Nexus after such a short launging period onto the market, I will be surprised to see people still insist on to say that G nexus is still better than the Razr or the Razrmaxx.
164. AlphaRider (Posts: 2; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
This phone cannot even last for 4 hours on original battery! I can't even consider the original battery to be a viable option for use. Perhaps update 4.0.4 can address this issue but highly doubt it
End up I have to to use an extended battery to lengthen the power life of this phone. So far the Qcell extended battery last me through a day which is an acceptable usage for me