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Verizon Galaxy Nexus vs Motorola DROID RAZR

0. phoneArena 23 Dec 2011, 04:32 posted on

Out of all the national carriers in the US, there’s no kidding that Verizon’s lineup is saturated to the top with some of the industry’s leading devices! Amongst the highly competitive devices, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Motorola DROID RAZR stand out immensely thanks to their specialty refinements, but considering that our appetites are voracious, there can only be one that can be proclaimed as being the best of the best...

This is a discussion for a review. To read the whole review, click here

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 10:02 2

35. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i can't wait to see what Motorola does with ICS. i'm hoping it's like what they've done with Honeycomb on the Xyboards and their overall stock experience with only aesthetic changes and their own widgets.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 10:25 3

37. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1195; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


For the average user this comparison is fine. But for some one that likes to root and use different roms to solve software issues they will be disappointed with the razor. And just yesterday Samsung announced that the very popular Galaxy S from last year will NOT receive ice cream sandwich because it has touchwiz/lacks hardware. Are you kidding me? The Nexus S is based off the same hardware and it already received ice cream sandwich. I bet this Nexus will receive the next upgrade and will be compatible with the following one. No telling what the Razr fate will be after it receives ice cream sandwich. Motorola is releasing so many phones so quick with locked bootloaders it's actually making them look like they don't know what their doing.
I have both the Nexus and the Rezound. Never had a Razr because I already know what to expect after owning a Droid x for the last year. If the Rezound had a unlocked bootloader that would have been my daily driver. But after a week of owning the Nexus I've been the happiest since jumping onto Android. I've loaded 3 roms so far and the phone is a dream.
So for the average user the Razr is fine. For the user that what's a excellent screen and removable battery the Rezound is great. But for the enthusiast the Nexus is the only phone to get if your on Verizon.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 11:55 3

41. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


no reason to thumb down fanboy. I am very disappointed in the galaxy nexus but you bring up a great point about roms and bootloaders. motorola is absolutely TERRIBLE towards the modding community. This is the Nexus' strongest point. Always up to date with the latest. but if you talk about roms and rooting, the xda devs already have an ICS port for the sgs1.

HTC needs to stop following motorola with regards to locked bootloaders quick or their VERY loyal modding community will get the hint and stop working on them.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 12:31 1

46. sgogeta4 (Posts: 392; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


It's mainly Verizon that is the problem with the locked bootloaders.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 12:56 1

48. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah, remember Motorola would unlock the bootloader if it weren't for Verizon.

posted on 06 Jan 2012, 12:44 1

154. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Motorola has released Razr with an unlocked software built in and all the international version of razr are unlocked. This is the first step taken by motorola towards their future lock bootloader policy. So we will be able to see more and more new phones from motorola come with the unloade bootloader software. The problem with the US version of Razr is that Verizon wireless has made that bootloader locked, not motorola.
Therefore, motorola will be able to have customised ICS ROM loaded into the international version while the US customer has to wait until its formal released.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 10:49

39. Gawain (Posts: 354; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)


Hey John V. you get into your work and that's a plus, regardless of whatever little nit-picks people like to throw at you. A couple more serious ones: editing and content. Put down the thesaurus and dictionary. "Ubiquitous winner" makes no sense. A synonym to "ubiquitous" is "omnipresent". I wouldn't refer to the RAZR as an "omnipresent winner".

Plain English makes for far more effective communication, especially on the internet. Other than that, don't stop. You're on a roll.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 12:06 2

42. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Good comparison PA.

With all the problems that plague the Nexus its no suprise to me that the Razr has a edge over it.

People alot of times forget that smartphones are first PHONES and then hand-held computers. If all one cares about is processing power, screens, and OS, then they should just carry a highend laptop with them and buy a flip phone on the side.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 12:24 3

44. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Yes, I am gald to see that there are honest reviewers here who who can give such an honest reviews to the motorola razr based on its real world daily uses rather than by personnal preperence/taste. I would like to add that even technological wise, the razr is more advanced. Look at the exclusive SMART Action function, the moto cast function, the labdock function. These functions are very useful as far as daily using of the phone is concerned. People who complain about the Raza battery life being too short is becasue they have not fully utilised the smart action function. I have this application set up in my razr and I have it set up to turn off teh phone functions when the screen light is off. I also set the phone to run at 3G or even 2G instead of LTE. This gives me a fullest day of normal use without any charging and i still have 30% left at 11:00 p.m.
Besides, I can access the documents in my home computer from my razr from anywhere without the need to physically connect to the home computer. Added
together these technologies to the real world speed and construction of the raza
really make the razr better phone than the Galaxy Nexus.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 12:39 4

47. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 409; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


The SG2 on Sprint, ATT and T-mobile are ALL better than the Nexus currently on VW. Period----When those phones were released you didn't hear these kinds of problems--- and the SG2 on the 3 carriers aren't even flagship models either...The Nexus is catching so much heat because of the long anticipated wait for nothing...The Nexus phone is a Charge with ICS--and dual core...Nothing else....So if you want to save $150.00 get the Charge. It's already running Gingerbread--so maybe ICS is next--who knows--Samsung is last to update anyway..I remember I waited forever with my Fascinate Galaxy S to get Froyo. Same LTE, Same camera, same storage @ 32gb--nothing more. But If you all want to feel great for the next week or so because you have a Nexus---go ahead by all means...

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 15:28 1

61. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


they also didnt launch with the newest version of android.

For you idiots who dont know what's special about Nexii devices; they receive the latest and greatest from el goog and have some of the best modding communities.

Sgs2 fanboys need to hop off that d!ck and find another article that relates to them.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 16:35 1

63. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


You're an idiot if you think the nexus is better than either...

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 17:24 1

64. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


other than the gpu and camera how is the gs2 better

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 00:37 2

77. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


CPU, sd slot, gpu, ffc, rear camera, smoother browser (not faster though), cheaper, better screen colors and not pentile, battery.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 00:54

79. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


actually i'm pretty sure the PowerVR SGX540 clocked at 384MHz is superior to the ARM Mali used in the Exynos 4210. you can check Smartbench if you want. it'll mostly be determined by the Games index.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 10:27

95. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


nope, its the same gpu as the nexus s just clocked slightly higher. older tech.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 12:16

100. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah it's older but it's still one of the best GPUs you can get in a phone, if not THE best.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 04:23

84. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


why bother with pentile argument? how is not having it a plus on the gs2 side when you cant even notice it on the gn?

gn
4g
better screen
higher resolution
android 4.0
faster browser
guaranteed updates
zero shutter lag
better support
clean face
notification light

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 10:27 1

94. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


-i get 8-12 mbps average which is more than enough
-not better screen, higher resolution but not colors and contrast of SA+-definitely debatable
-android 4.0 is coming and already mostly ported
-browser might be very slightly faster (for now) but its definitely not smoother
-updates i agree with you there but i dont keep my phones for longer than a year, ever
-shutter lag is useless if you cant take good pics
-sgs2 has a clean face as well
-notification light rarely works but sgs2 has bln.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 14:10

104. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


how does notification light barely work? stop going off what you read online and play with the phone.
it takes several seconds between each light up

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 14:25 2

105. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Actually, my bro works for future shop and I had several hours to play with it.

posted on 30 Dec 2011, 18:36 1

130. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


I do not agree that the SGSII is faster than eitehr the Razr adn the Nexus . If people do nto believe,Go to smartphoneenvy web site and look at the face off between the Razr and the SGSII. The SGSII only won in the quardrant standard. The Razr i sbetter in other aspects like opening up youtube and netfix faster, opening web page faster, etc.I also run other test like the sunspider browser test, the Antutu test, the passmark performance test, between the two devices all show that the CPU and GPU perfomance together are a bit faster than the GSII. Also, I do not think that GSII. with a smaller battery, can have better batetry life the razr. Also, dont forget that the SGSII using Exynos chips are not LTE. So, one cannot compare the battery life of a non LTE device to teh Razr. Also the color and whether pentile arrangement or not is a matter of personnal taste and should NOT be used as a feature to compare the phone itself. The camera in a phone is just for occasional use. Nobody will use a phone camera to take 1000 photos in a journey. You would liek to bring a real digital camera and video recorder if you want to use for real picture taking and video recording. So, having a better camera or not does not affect the real world performance of a phone.
Add that there heve been already so many complaints about the SGSII overheating and screen going blank and freezing afetr charging. Do you guys still say that SGSII is better than NExus and Rarz? I doubt it.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 18:16 2

69. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the Nexus uses Verizon's significantly superior 4G LTE Network and the only trade off really is taking one baby step down from the awesome Exynos processor to an OMAP4460. HSPA+ is to LTE as 3G is to HSPA+ with the exception of T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42mbps but they only have weaker devices using it right now. getting a Charge over a Nexus because of a $150 price difference is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. i would give my Charge, $200 and the Car Dock for a Galaxy Nexus right now.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 19:28 2

74. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2973; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


EXACTLY. People think right off the bat "OH I'm saving 150 dollars right now!" When in the end they go and either do the smart thing and exchange it or do the stupid thing and hate the phone they bought cheap for a few months, get sick of it and buy the one they SHOULD have gotten for full retail price.

IDC if you save 200 dollars on a phone, when it comes to smartphones, you are paying the same amount each month and you might as well spend a little more to get a good phone you'll actually love for the 2 years you are stuck with it.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 13:13 1

49. naga.appani (Posts: 36; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)


Amazing review, Absolutely right... Let the ICS be coming to RAZR either hacked or official, it is gonna rock all the way

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 13:36

51. kibitzer (Posts: 4; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


The part about the Razr having 8GB of internal memory and the Nexus 16GB of internal memory is just plain wrong. Both have 16GB of internal memory. The difference is that the Razr partitions it into two blocks - 8GB for OS, files and internal use, and 8GB of user memory. When you look at the memory status you only see the user memory listed - which has confused a number of writers into thinking that 8GB is all the internal memory on the phone.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 13:47

53. kibitzer (Posts: 4; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Correction - the Nexus of course has a fixed internal memory. 32GB on verizon. Other sizes on other version.
The Razr has 16GB internal memory, 16GB external SD that can be replaced with a 32 GB SD to bring its total to 48GB.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 19:10

72. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


On top of that....I saw a clip of a 64GB card working for the RAZR.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 20:30

75. BattleBrat (Posts: 1071; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Don't tell me that, I just spent $120 on a 32gb High Speed Sandisk card, they make a 64gb as well, I'll let someone else buy the 64gb and try it out....

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 14:10

57. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


People need to stop getting their panties in a bunch.

there is an update coming out for the nexus fixing this "signal issue"

I understand it's an opinion which one is better, however having a TRUE HD screen (if it's not 'XXXx720' it's not HD) is a huge factor for me.

Removable battery is also a big issue imo. The company i work for has had a few Razrs with "invalid battery" errors (meaning...doa). Later down the road, you'll regret not having a removable battery (insert iphone cry here)...

ill enjoy my hd screen

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 14:53 1

58. bucky (Posts: 1411; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


One should also insert iPhone cry for sd slot :)

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 19:12 1

73. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


It can be removed....and its not that hard. I removed the back of my RAZR with just my fingers.

All it took was for someone to try.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 08:15

88. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


million dollar question would now be, can you remove the battery on ur razr without voiding your warranty?

still wouldnt do ya much good after that :)

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 09:57

92. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Since I root my phone and dont bother about warranty issues...it wouldnt bother me too much. And the ones that will do it probably wont be too worried about it either. Like folks that open up their Xbox 360's for whatever reason.

Only time warranty issues come into play for me is if my phone is lost or stolen. So for me its more of an insurance thing than warranty. There are a few scenarios that have been posted about replacing the battery in the RAZR that seem legit, I just wont get into it right now.

With iPhone owners that have removed their batteries....I'm sure warranty issues arent that big a deal. I might try it to see something. It has a battery removal tab on the phone. Moto wants someone to remove it...just not us...lol

Or do they...hmmmm.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 08:37 3

90. gtrxman (Posts: 106; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)


It's all a matter of preference. To you, it's important. To me, HD on a 4" screen is silly. I don't sit in front of my phone watching movies. For the occasional YouTube clip or video I watch, the resolution on the RAZR is fine.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 10:13 1

93. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Exactly...cuz by the time the G Nex was available, most folks on forums knew it was coming. And some ppl still chose the RAZR.

So really when it comes to these phones...its all a matter of preference. If it wasnt we would all have an iPhone or G Nex or [insert phone here]

posted on 30 Dec 2011, 19:05 1

131. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Motorola knew the issues about teh battery damn well before they decide to make it concealed. The battery life is so good that I dont even need to replace it with a stronger battery. Also, should the phone ever freeze up, there is a ahrd reset procedure we cna use to bring the phone back up adn running. The " Invalid battery" mesage was for older generation Razr. One cannot judge based on some old devices and say how bad the new one will be without even actually using it at all.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 14:58 2

59. mctcm (Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


the appearance and build of the razr is awesome but i found the phone hard to use & hold with one hand, although the hump at the top is helpful. i went and tried out a nexus at a vzw store and swapped out. it feels better even though it doesnt look as fancy. i think this one will boil down to preference

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 15:40

62. sangroazul (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


I currently use an LG Env Touch (yeah I know, that’s funny) cell phone and I’m with VZW. The plan I have is called “Nationwide Connect 450” and it includes 450 Anytime minutes, unlimited text messaging, free mobile-to-mobile, AND unlimited data…
This calling plan no longer exists.
I currently pay approx $67/mnth (I have a 20% discount thru my employer).
I am done with my 2-yr contract, and want to upgrade to a smart phone.
However, I’ve been told by VZW that I cannot upgrade with this plan
(as they no longer offer “unlimited data”) & none of their smart phones would work with my current data plan…
They are telling me that I’d have to surrender this plan, and buy one of their “data plans” in order to get one of their new smart phones.
Is this true? Because I’d be more than willing to buy a RAZOR or Galaxy Nexus, or even DROID IV at full retail price if I could keep my current plan..
Anyone know if this has ever been pondered or attempted? Could I just walk into a big-box store & purchase one of these phones, then call Verizon and have them activate it?
Is it really true a new smart phone won’t work with my plan, or do they just want to sucker me into a new contract at a higher price??
Anyone have any thoughts?? Thank you…

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 17:32 2

67. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2973; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Yes, sadly. You have to be under their 3G/4G 30 dollar monthly data plan to begin with. While you could have grandfathered it unto a new phone but since you had a "basic phone" you can't do that now.

Even if you buy a new phone without a contract it still won't work because the phone has to have that data plan in order to be activated.

If build, call, and sound quality is a big deal for you, RAZR, wait until it gets ICS.

If you want the latest and greatest, you don't want a bunch of bloatware apps on your device, you want to insure you'll get the next update to android asap, get the Galaxy Nexus.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 11:43

96. sangroazul (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Thank you, Roryrevoluiton!!

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 17:19 1

108. snowgator (Posts: 3209; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


While I feel for your pocket book, making the jump to one of these devices will make you wonder why you waited so long. Going from an EnV to either the RAZR or Nexus or waiting on the Droid 4 will be like jumping from a Yugo to a Lincoln Mark VII. You will pay the monthly payments with a smile on your face and song in your heart....

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 17:27 1

65. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2973; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


If this RAZRMAX or whatever comes out with a 4.5 inch 720p display and a larger battery then it's no question which device will be better. ICS or not, it'll get ICS and there won't be any competition. RAZR has way better design, bettery call and sound quality, and will be much durable. I have the Galaxy Nexus and love the display and I love ICS but I miss the RAZR's design and better call and sound quality. When watching a youtube video or listening to a song on the speaker it sounds very weak even when the room is silent, most of the time I HAVE to put my earphones in just to listen well. Never had that problem with the RAZR.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 21:48

76. mctcm (Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


i have to admit, it pisses me off there are like 3 different versions of the razr in the pipeline and the device is barely a month old.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 12:18

101. jinwons (Posts: 93; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


Well, then Sammy has the monster SGSIII in their pipeline for Q2. That phone will raise the bar high once again like SGSII did before. It will have no problem crushing the underpowered Razr Maxx that has the same processor as Razr.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 17:31 2

66. blackrose (Posts: 48; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


The nexus for me because of ICS and future updates and next OS. Update jellybean or whatever they name it. Great display and the fact it offers what I want. Isn't that the point I can care less about which phone you guys think is the best. Cause at the end of the day its my choice and I'm going to have to live with it. Give your point in why you think which phone is better. But don't put someone down because there getting something you don't like. That's all

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 00:52 2

78. xpr3ss10n (Posts: 55; Member since: 15 Dec 2011)


After reading this review, I felt pretty disappointed with PA. There are major details that have been left out of this comparison that equate to a substantial difference in the outcome of this competition. Let's highlight some if the key points:

Design

The razr is thin, but the nexus is much more ergonomical. It's great that the razr is made of premium materials because of the drops it will need to withstand due to its massive bezel that probably could have housed a 4.65" screen.

OS

What matters is what is here now. The Nexus is superior to the razr hands down. So many features have been dismissed in this article because the razr lacks cutting edge software. Overall multitasking and functionality (not to forget, all the bloatware you find on the razr) are far better on the razr. Also, the Nexus recieves updates first, something we android users suffer from from manufacturer to manufacturer. At the end of the day you can take motoblur gingerbread and wrap it in the most premium materials, but it is still outdated motoblur gingerbread.

Camera

The Nexus has almost no shutter lag and utilizes the dual core processor for great in-video effects. Even if this ICS, you cant discount that.

Memory

Google is trying to encourage onboard memory as sd card apps just dont function like they should. And 32 gb is plenty of space.

At the end it says on looks alone, and if Razr had ICS today....well it doest. Hell if i had Android Jellybean on a titanium built nexus with a lotus glass screen id win, but we dint. Si compare what you have NOW.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 01:10 3

80. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i disagree.

i think premium materials and a literally cutting edge design beats out the cheaper feeling Samsung build quality regardless of it being a little more comfortable to hold.

Moto's Gingerbread is actually one of the only preferable skin jobs on Android devices i think. you simply can't ignore the inevitability that the Razr is getting ICS and i'm sure Motorola will do a great job customizing it if their recent subtle changes to Honeycomb are any indication. it's really something to look forward to and thankfully not for long because Motorola is one of the OEMs that's more prompt with their updates.

that's another temporary 1-Up that we know comes from the inclusion of ICS and like Phone Arena said ICS is something the Razr could've really benefited from but for just having a temporary 2.3.5 fix the Razr is just fine as it is.

that's true but SD Cards have always seemed to work fine for me and having the option of expanding it's total storage up to 48GB is a trade off to Google's more efficient methodology.

at the end the inescapable reality is that it will and you'd be foolish to ignore that. when you're shopping for a phone all future factors like that must be looked at.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 03:07 2

83. kibitzer (Posts: 4; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Regarding OS - Having ICS first isn't necessarily an advantage. It takes time for the various App vendors to test/update their apps for ICS. (Flash, for example) - so for most people, waiting a couple of months for the ICS update is actually a good thing - it gives them that much extra time to get app compatibility and work out those initial release bugs.

Regarding Camera - as of yesterday's update, the Razr's shutter lag seems as good as the Nexus.

Curiously, one place that I liked the Nexus more than the Razr was the keyboard - the Razr's multitouch keyboard has too many misses for my taste. Fortunately, ICS keyboard are already available for Gingerbread, so that issue was easily resolved.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 08:31

89. gtrxman (Posts: 106; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)


As far as the keyboard goes, you also need to consider that it is easily upgraded. For about $5, one can get Swiftkey, which, IMO, is easily the best keyboard available. For me, any difference in the stock keyboard is irrelevant, as neither compares to Swiftkey.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 05:02 1

86. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I think you give too much credit to the G Nex, ICS and not enough to the RAZR and the latest version of Blur. It happens..we all have our biased moments. Both are good phone, but neither one is hands down better than the other. They both have pros n cons.

Last 2 replies to your post sums it up good. I remember when Froyo and GB came apps had to get updated to work for them.

For me...replacale memory was more important than replaceable battery. No matter what Google says or the direction they wanna go in. 32GB might be enough for some....but in lil over a year I almost maxed out 16GB. Got 2GB left one card. And that with not alot of music or pics or videos.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 11:45 2

97. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


Having ICS in Nexus is not really an advantage as evidents have already proved that Razr running with Gingerbread 2.3.5 is faster in most occasions than the Nexus running ICS. Also, verison has just released an update to fix the shutter lag problem on the Razr, therefore this should not be a point to step down the razr in favour of the Nexus. Also, Razr has smart actions, moto cast and labdock functions which increase the practicality of the Razr. Even the ICS has better user interface, which is purely cosmetic and personal taste and since Motorola is now a Google's company, it will get all software update as quick, if not quicker. When it comes down to practical use, the Nexus lags. The practicality will add more merits points on the Razr than Nexus and hence the results are more than justified.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 12:12 1

99. jinwons (Posts: 93; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


Nexus wins on many benchmarks actually, especially on browser. And when Razr gets ICS update, it will get slower due to all those stuffs you mentioned plus Blur UI. Also OMAP 4430 is weaker than 4460 in GPU power, so it will struggle more to run ICS than running GB.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 12:18 1

102. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


no actually it'll make it run better because of 2 words guy. Hardware. Acceleration.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 12:24

103. jinwons (Posts: 93; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


Yes, ICS has hardware acceleration and that's why Nexus runs smoother. Like I said, Razr will have ICS, but with all those bloats and blur that will only slow down it compared to pure stock ICS.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 17:16 2

107. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5593; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i doubt it'll be noticeable at all. Motorola's skins are so good performance wise that i'm sure like the Nexus it'll be well beyond the regular lag threshold people are accustomed to with older versions of Android and besides smoothness i don't think performance will be noticeably inferior to the Nexus at all, after all we're just talking about 80MHz difference in the GPU's clock frequency.

posted on 25 Dec 2011, 21:40 3

116. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


But....the RAZR is not running slow now as is. So how can going to ICS....which uses hardware acceleration ,or uses it more gonna make the RAZR slower?

And the browser benchmarks on the G Nex must have been updated. Last time I saw it the RAZR was beating it on browser benchmarks.

Actually last time I checked the RAZR and G Nex were almost tied for overall benchmarks...G Nex winning about half, and winiing by a small amount...RAZR winning about half by a small amount.

Going by Anandtech results with their Bench Tool:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Smartphone11/360

They have to review the G Nex tho. And even if going by benchmarks like Quadrant, Antutu, etc...the RAZR beats it or is very close in scores in those too.

posted on 30 Dec 2011, 19:38 1

132. mobileuser (Posts: 66; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)


I disagree your comments on post #78 and I would like to offer my comments as follows:-

1) The raza china version already has a bigger screen size of 4.5". Whether design is ergonomical is purely subjective and cannot be used as a point of comparision.

2) I am sure that motorola will get update as fast as the Nexus, if not faster due to the fact that Motorola is now a Google company. all those bloatware in the motorola were not put by Motorola own, it was the requirement by the carrier-Verison. even they are there, you Do NOT have to run them at all. Having those bloatware just sitting somewhere inside your app. page will not affect the real performance of the razr, at all.

3) Shutter lag. version has already released a software update to the Razr to correct teh sutter lag issue. therefore , there is no shutter lag whatsover in the razr now, just like the Nexus.

4) I cannot find any information saying that Google wish to promote on board memory. Also, should you wish to transfer your files, contact and apps from one device to another, without a removable microSD card will make the transferring job extremely difficult. Also i have apps. running on micro SD card is as smooth as on board memory, no lag whatsover as I have encountered on my razr.

5) Also, there are other exclusive built-in features like smart actions, motocast and labdock which the Nexus does not or will never have. The ICS isdelf only provide some kind of smoothness or better user interface (purely personnal taste), nothing else.Since motorola will get
all the ICS subsequent update as quick as Nexus because of the advantage of Google acquition, there is really nothing I can see which
is REALLY outstanding in the Nexus that can really take away the crown from razr.

posted on 24 Dec 2011, 11:55

98. jinwons (Posts: 93; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)


Moto is notorious of inflating their signal bar and dB than real and Samsung is honest on that. For some thinking samsung radio is weak, they have been in wireless device business over 25 years and have way bigger engineering resource/team than Moto, and do you think they don't know how to engineer good antenna/radio? It just took some time for sammy to figure out good radio firmwares and now they are on par or better than Moto.

Also in real world usage, I compared data speed on my Nexus with Razr of friend at work on three different places (office, restaurant, gas station). Nexus consistently won the download speed, sometimes spiking over 50Mbps. Once they fix the signal bar reading issue on Nexus with software update, it will shut off Moto fanboys on radio.

posted on 25 Dec 2011, 21:52

118. jroc74 (Posts: 4732; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


No, Samsung is guilty of putting a priority on LTE signals only. Moto...a company that has been making phones for years, before Samsung has...Moto is practically the originator of phones........puts the priority on the....phone...signal, not the data signal. They chose to continue that after LTE was launched. Which was right IMO. And every other phone that doesnt do what the G Nex is doing is right.

The G Nex is " showing it wrong" IMO.

Please dont read that Anandtech article and take it n run with it. It clearly says in that article the G Nex is reporting the LTE signal. Dont our phones use more than LTE?

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