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Samsung Galaxy S4 vs Apple iPhone 5

0. phoneArena 27 Mar 2013, 09:09 posted on

Both Apple and Samsung produce wonderful products. Let's take, for example, the Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5! Both are amazing smartphones with their own strengths and weaknesses. Obviously, neither can claim to be better than the other, but if we look closely, we can identify the areas where one has an advantage over the other and vice versa. Surprise, surprise - that's exactly what we'll do right now...

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posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:13 33

1. chunk1x (Posts: 248; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)

Its like that I just watch an entire review where iPhone is Sammy's bit$h.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:28 27

6. LonghornTech (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)

S4 all the way. IPhone only wins with call quality and materials. The GSIV is the better phone.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 11:53 17

54. samsunggalaxylover (Posts: 37; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)

come on there are no reasons for such comparison the galaxy s4 is way far more better than the iremote5 in all ways.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 13:36 6

65. sudhar131998 (Posts: 63; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)

iPhone 5 should not be called iremote as you all know the galaxy s4, htc one and lg optimus pro are the only phones that feature infrared emitter to act as a remote so just keep that in mind

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 13:54 7

67. Banana (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Feb 2013)

S4 = plasitc not so fantastic. iPhone 5 = quality + best user experience + design = happy owner :D

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 14:24 11

72. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)

it's a phone, not jewelry...

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 23:43 1

109. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)

i suppose a watch is for telling time... sure, because when I wear a Rolex I really just need to see what time it is

posted on 29 Mar 2013, 18:21 1

116. bobolicious (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)

A rolex is for telling time? i thought it was to be worn just for looks.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 16:37 17

76. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

I'm not quite sure how a phone made of aluminum and glass is so much better quality. Polycarbonate (the material used on the S4) is the same material used to make safety glasses. I don't know about you, but if it's good enough to protect my eyes then it's damn well good enough for my phone. You don't see companies making safety glasses out of glass do you? Polycarbonate is designed to take a lickin and keep on ticken, which glass is not.

As for the aluminum, yeah it looks cool, but it's what they make coke cans out of. There is a reason for that. It is a cheap material. Also it can be scratched and dented very easily, so there is nothing quality about that.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 23:09 2

89. ph00ny (Posts: 1234; Member since: 26 May 2011)

not to mention samsung's tradition of using magnesium frame under the plastic shell

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 11:49 2

100. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 805; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


posted on 29 Mar 2013, 18:22 2

117. bobolicious (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)

very well put and to the point 100% props

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 10:59 1

130. mrfunkyjay (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Mar 2013)

a very clever explanation... they are just way too hypnotised by the ads Apple guys made regarding their Iphone5.

Aluminium is softer than plastic, it deforms easily. I found two-three tiny scratches and light deformation of my friend's Iphone5's edges on its aluminium case, too bad...

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 02:02 3

92. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)

iphone5's aluminum body peels off like a banana.
yeah you heard that right, lol

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 12:20

103. donfem (Posts: 646; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

Like your name, your statement is banana

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 12:36 3

58. Trex95 (Posts: 900; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)

Call quality, build quality , Apps, better camera and the most important things the software keep up with the hardware.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:44 7

17. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

That means you have "eyesight" problems: S4 has a worse display, worse call quality, worse camera (just wait and see low light shots), wores user experience, slower browsing (Ray "forgot" to mention), worse design.

But, hey, in your world, S4 is better because it has 5" display and uses Android.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:52 18

23. LonghornTech (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)

Worse display? Doubt it, its bigger and higher ppi which actually makes it much easier to do nearly every task one would do on their phone. I already said it has worse call quality, though that's not something you see with your eyes. Yes, low light is probably miserable but the Iphones isn't great either so I wouldn't be to proud of the results. Worse user experience is just nonsense, you've obviously not used Android. Slower browser is also questionable and design is only marred by materials which I already mentioned.

In my world S4 is better because it's OS is not 4+ years old and unchanged

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 10:07 4

28. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Only in your world.
I don't give a f* about size if I can't watch my display in direct sunlight; iP display gets a little darker than One's so you can see better at night; iP 5 has better viewing angles. WTF are you talking about S4 having better display? It's not better, it's just bigger.

I have been using Android for 3 years now and I can say, although it grows everyday, it's far from being as great as some of you picture it to be.

In every browsing test first 2 places are held by iPad and iPhone, with Nexus 10 being third. That means iPhone 5 browsing speed is higher that S4's and that's a fact; I don't give a f* if you like it or not.

Your world must be a special one where Alice is friends with the queen of hearts...

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 10:25 18

34. voxmarc (Posts: 332; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)

only in your lost world.....bah bah bah bah bah bah.....no match to S4 whatsoever.....talk to your granpa and granma they love Iphony5,,,

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 10:35 10

39. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)

Since S4 uses Amoled screen it has the lowest reflectance in the current crop of high end smart phones. So sunlight legibility would be far better than your iRemote5.
You have never seen the galaxy s4 in person and you criticize about its design based on press images... lol
"In every browsing test first 2 places are held by iPad and iPhone, with Nexus 10 being third. That means iPhone 5 browsing speed is higher that S4's and that's a fact;"- current S4 web browsing tests are based on pre production software and it will be better once it gets finalized (The same was the case in S3 when released).
You should be living under a rock and lead a sad life. Time for you to get out of the cave...

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 12:46

59. Trex95 (Posts: 900; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)

I used to own galaxy s2, note 1, S3, note 2, wave 1, galaxy nexus and samsung omina HD before all these phones comes with Amoled pen tile and all of these Samsung phones sunlight legibility ZERO when you compere it with iphone 4, 4s and 5 sunlight legibility except the note 2 a bit better.

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 03:54

93. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

I don't know stuff because S4 haven't been released yet but your stuff about the same S4 must be right because... you said them; nevermind you have the same info about S4 I have...
How dumb do you consider everyone to be?

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 11:15 1

46. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

I don't think the video is a fair comparison due to the fact that he is comparing a pre production demo of the s4 to whatever that small black thingy is (j/k). I'm not saying it's a bias comparison but it's certainly not a fair one at least not until a better optimized S4 comes out versus the IPhone 5s.

I would have like to have seen it compared in day to day use to really test out it's brightness, call quality, battery life etc. I would say however the S4 wins hand down in features alone and it's something Samsung can build on for the future whether if anyone agrees it's innovation or not. The Galaxy Note 2 is a prime example of that and no one can't deny that it wasn't a game changer.

Apple commands the U.S. market share but Samsung rules the world in terms of global share and profit in the mobile space.

Besides when that Note 3 drops, nothing is touching it. And I mean nothing. If that unbreakable display finally makes It way to the Note 3, it will obliterate everything in it's path.

All you need to do is tell people "screen doesn't break when it drops" plus possible 1080p OLED display and people will throw hoards of cash at it. Not to mention Samsung advertisements is so aggressive these days. I probably seen a Galaxy Note 2 or a GS3 commercial every 5 minutes when i turn on the the TV.

And aside from talking about the Note 3, when they finally put these unbreakable displays on there products going forward on and advertise to the masses. GAME OVER!!!

Don't even talk to me about to me about "Rotten Apples" no more. And I hope Samsung never let's another company use there components. Keep that s**t in-house.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 11:32 2

49. LonghornTech (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)

I started to agree but the Samsung's Note line is just too much of a niche product. I think the Note series is a great set of phones, but no matter how good the Note 3 is I do not see myself buying one and I doubt that sales will surpass Iphone or Galaxy's. The device is just too large and unpractical in my opinion.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 13:22

63. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

I respect your comment Monseuir Longhorn. I would of agreed with you about the note being a niche product when the first one come out about three years ago. But the Note 2 has developed quite a fanfare due to the advertising. Besides 10 million Note 2's sold worldwide ain't to shabby to build upon.

It's cool if they wanna take subliminal shots at the competition but those "Unicorn Apocalypse" commercials ain't cutting it. I think with the Note 3 they need to showcase how it would be more useful in everyday use whether it be business, entertainment, educational, etc. I think where Samsung can improve in it's commercials is do better job on convincing the public on the necessities of their product features.

And you really wouldn't buy a phone with an unbreakable screen. Something Flapple could never conceive of doing. Oh and Leo guy is an idiot. Someone should let him now that Samsung just made his phone look like the first Motorola.

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 03:56

94. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Yeah S4 is better than iP5 because Note 3 might have "indestructible" display...
Is like saying Bruce Lee kicks the sh* out of van Damme.

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 16:50 1

107. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

Dude your douche. There's no way of you knowing your IPussy 5 is better than the beast which is the S4 until a true test from a post production unit of the S4 and the IPhone 5 are ready for a real comparison.

Although I'll go out on a limb here and say the S4 will bitch slap the IPhone. 5s and all. Besides check the benchmarks fool.

And Bruce Lee would kick the s**t out of Van Damme, he stinks. If your saying the S4 and the Note series are like the Bruce Lee of smartphones, well then thanks.

posted on 30 Mar 2013, 13:42

121. TMach (Posts: 454; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)

Now this is interesting as nearly everyone who has seen this video agrees that the Xperia Z shots are warmer and more natural than that of the iP5. Regardless, people still choose to hate on the Xperia Z.........lol.


posted on 29 Mar 2013, 10:45

111. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Today Phonearena did an article about screen quality; the result: S4 has one of the worst displays on today's phones (with S3 having an even worst display) so go there and explain how is S4 better than the rest (iphone, Z, 920, One and S3).

posted on 29 Mar 2013, 13:03 2

112. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

Trust me if you put the phones together you will barely notice a glaring difference. The comparison was done through a microscopic view of the screens. IPhone 5 produces better whites and the GS4 has better color saturation.

But sorry, the GS4 still bitch slaps the IPhony 5 no matter how you cut it. And the Note 3 will demolish the competition.

posted on 30 Mar 2013, 06:12 1

120. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

Yeah and Charlieze Theron will give me a blow job just after Note 3 will demolish my ping-pong pallet...
I don't have to trust you more than I do phonearena wich says S4 display is worse than iPhone's.
Viewing angles are not checked under the microscop and S4 is bad (albeit better than the worst's screen: S3's).
Color is also bad; if you like oversaturated, go with S4's ugly screen but if you want natural colors, iPhone is the way.

Sure, I can't say how you should spend your money but don't insult my inteligence saying S4 is better than iPhone just because it is bigger; get a tablet if bigger is what you want.

posted on 30 Mar 2013, 19:16 3

124. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

It is better my delusional friend. Obviously you are a ride-or-die Flapple fanboy and it's all good. If you wanna choose to ignore the fact that Samsung is gradually changing the mobile market with it's products whether you disagree it's innovative or not then that's your choice. Call their features novelties if want but that S4 is really something to build on.

You can't deny that Flapple is only keeping up with what's going on the smartphone market. Think about it, now they are starting to put NFC in that IPussy 5s that's coming out later when it's been in Android smartphones since 2009.

Since you "so hate big screens so much" then why was Apple forced to make their phone 4 inches taller even though one of their impediments was bigger screens. I'll tell you why, because pressure from their customers made them do it. If Apple stuck to that puny 3.5 inch screen, IPhones would have been obselete. Tech media outlets would of ripped them a new one.

They saw what Android phones were doing and basically to stay in the race, they just made incremental changes but nothing new, nothing innovative.

Tell me why would they have to make an "Why IPhone" page to remind customers of their "love" for their phones which is by the way sickening in every way. I mean it's just a phone for Pete's sake. An inferior one at that but I'll tell you why. "THEY ARE SCARED" and they know Samsung is the only one giving them competition.

Heck the only phone really giving the S4 a run for it's money is the HTC One. Another phone that bitch slaps the f**k out of your IPussy 5. Face it man, GS4 and the HTC one the pimps of smartphones right now and your IPussy 5 is just a f**kin whore.

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 00:52 1

125. llk171 (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Mar 2013)

First off, like most extremists in anything, those who do the finger pointing and throw out the cheap labels are typically suffering the most from what they accuse others of doing.

By the time the SG4 is actually released to market, the iphone 5 will have been out for 7 months. However, money says, when the ip5 came out and destroyed the SG3, probably not a word from someone like you about it.

Based on writing like a 10 year old out of the ghetto, you are obviously not smart enough to realize that everything you accuse others of doing, you are doing yourself. The biggest laugh is your ridiculous 'when the note 3 comes out' rant...

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 12:34

132. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

I have no idea where you came from but thanks for putting your two cents, it's well appreciated. And I assure sir I am not from some impoverished neighborhood as you so claim. But I tend to like adding a little robustness and fervor to my comments so I wont make it sound so dull.

And now I would like to rebut your debate by saying "DUH". Of course if a device comes out 7 months after it's direct competitor like Samsung dropped it's phone you'd expect the IPhone to be a little better. But then Samsung dropped the Note 2 and it was clearly better than the IPhone 5 so whats your point.

My intention was to go at bloggers like Mr Leo here because he decided to attack some recent posts on people picking the GS4 over the IPhone 5. It's one thing if you wanna argue that your phone is better than the next persons phone but to be malicious about it is something I don't respect. So I gave him a taste of his own medicine and I took him on.

If you actually read some of my comments thoroughly you would of seen that I praised other companies for stepping up their game and exercised objectivity when discussing these phones. Nokia, BlackBerry, Sony, HTC are all making great phone this year. It's ultimately going to come down to who's got the most influence in marketing power.

Oh and Note 3 is going to be a big deal. Literally!

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 09:51 1

129. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

I don't know what "Flapple" or "iPussy" means.

What I know is: S4 has a worse display - Phonearena said it; worse call quality - I also know it from Phonearena, worse camera (I've seen low light shots), wores user experience (Android still lags), slower browsing (again, I've seen it being tested), worse design (my oppinion and the one of all the people that gave prizes to Apple for their desingn; I don't remember S3 receiving any praises for it's design...)
So - for me - S4 is a worse phone than iPhone 5; if you think the other way, it's just because you're a marketing victim that's just being wrong; now be a good boy and go pay 600 euro for a piece of sh*tty plastic.

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 12:02 2

131. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

Look I already served you, Leo_MC. And why does your name have MC in it. MC means Master of Ceremonies but it's obvious your getting schooled like my pupil.

Look bottom line is this, if your looking for a phone because of it's aesthetics and design and you feel IOS is simple to use then sure go for your IPhone 5. It's definitely a perfect device for a simp such as yourself.

And I plan to buy my GS4 from T-Mobile when it comes out for $99 down payment with no contract. The only device I would ever consider paying full price for is for a Galaxy Note because of it's tech forward capabilities which it's sure to embrace and definitely would be at least $300 cheaper than an IPhone.

I frigging laughed my pants off when I look online and saw that the IPhone was selling for nearly $1,200 off contract. Kinda made me wish I had one so I can sell it to gullible folks such as yourself with a $30 adapter since ICrap makes the "coolest adapters" right. So when you look at it $600 doesn't actually look so bad now does it.

And again when it comes to screen quality it is a matter of personal taste. If you want bright whites than go with the IPhone. You want deep colors and more pronounced sharpness than go with a 1080p screen and that's with any device.

And you wanna talk design well according to "PhoneArena" since it's your obviously tech bible they did a comparison between your little rectangle device and the HTC One and the HTC One won "HANDS DOWN" on build quality and design and praised Sense 5 on it's UI and usability.

And I didn't say the Galaxy was the most premium looking device that's out there but it's built quite solid and holds it's own even though it is plastic. Dude I'm done with you. Please don't comment on my post no more, you have no valid points and your ranting is not respected. "YOU'VE BEEN SERVED"!

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 13:07 1

133. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

And I hope Apple adds more of those lovely black bars on the side of that beautiful 4 inch "Retina" screen on that coming to that 5s. Now that's screen quality! (Sarcastically laughing). :P

posted on 02 Apr 2013, 02:23

135. Leo_MC (Posts: 1471; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)

One finds stupidity where one doesn't think it exists; I find stupidity everywhere.

The relevance of my nickname in regard to this subject only a deranged mind knows...

Go buy that bad screen (If I want cartoons, I look at cartoons; my phone screen better be having natural colors), bad call quality, too big for a pocket size hunk of ugly plastik and stop bothering me.

posted on 02 Apr 2013, 11:48

136. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

If you are looking for stupidity, look no further than your unintelligent comments. Later Leonardo!

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 01:08 1

126. llk171 (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Mar 2013)

These guys don't know what they are talking about. Unlike most of these kids, I actually have the note 2, sg3, iphone 5, and nokia 920. For starters, the win mobile platform alone, with the awesome tiles, runs circle around crapdroid.

Who gives two hoots if you can enter 500 menus and customize it down to a pixel. Excluding the cheapskates and does the job types, most people just want a quality smartphone that works. XDA types are a very small niche market. In addition, people want rock solid back-to-back customer service. Applecare+ is amazing, I get my phone replaced and up and running within 30 minutes.

When it comes to specs, Android needs the 10,000 cores to get the GUI to be as smooth and responsive as ios or win phone. What about the fragmented updates, where I have to go searching to see which handset is running what. The 7 month old IP5 still leads the sunspider type stats, where it counts for smartphones.

Like I said, I have them all and android can be fun to customize. However, if I want phones that work well and have a fantastic build quality, then I go with the ip5 or the n920.

posted on 31 Mar 2013, 19:12

134. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)

thats Amoled, Amoled cant really stand that fight coz it's about real colors..
but the fact that we love viewing videos pictures hanging around the UI playing w/ it while having that gorgeous popping screen cant be taken away from us..
the quality of it is different from the perdpective of LCDs with realistic colors

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 10:23 9

33. BadAssAbe (Posts: 456; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)

No Leo, GS4 is better because it has
IR Blaster
Better battery life/ bigger battery
New touch techology with hover touch/ glove usable
Better screen to phone ratio
Removable battery
MicoSD slot

Oh yeah almost forgot, bigger screen, better OS and dare I say better Camera

posted on 29 Mar 2013, 18:32

118. bobolicious (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)

Exactly!!! surely he cant respond bad to this as this is all true lol

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 13:39

66. sudhar131998 (Posts: 63; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)

as the others said the display and camera are top notch (not exactly top) but remember that you can also attend the calls with earphones, doesn't always has to be the earpiece if you are bugged by it

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 14:18

71. rdemon (Posts: 49; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

And you know these things because you've obviously tested the S4 your self right! Dude, it's not a fair comparison. This is clearly a pre demo unit. IPhone 5 had a lot of time to be updated and optimized till then. At least wait until the S4 officially comes out, then you can reserve judgement.

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 12:22

104. donfem (Posts: 646; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)

I guess you probably have a problem understanding the word "worse"

posted on 12 Aug 2013, 06:28

154. mobilegod (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)

please die man S4 is better in all aspects than the iPhone 5. and the same design for 6 generations get over it

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 05:38

97. imran86 (Posts: 174; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)

This is not a fair comparison. iPhone 5 should be compared to Galaxy S2 from 2010 and then see who wins.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:14 8

2. lee480 (Posts: 197; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)

Xperia Z beats the both. Though S4 has the slight edge to the iphone. Dislikes coming!

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:31 11

7. eliasafram7 (Posts: 83; Member since: 18 Mar 2013)

slight edge??? are u stupid or blind or what?? the difference is very wild like the difference between the earth and sky

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:37 9

11. alila2 (Posts: 146; Member since: 01 Nov 2011)

when they first revealed the gs4 i was kinda disappointed with the design , but now after all these comparisons with htc one xperia z and the iphone five and after all these new info about software , specs and capabilities it's becoming more of a winner except for it's back design it's the ugliest most boring back of a phone i ever seen but hey i never carry a phone with out a thin back case.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:47 9

19. MrKoles (Posts: 368; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)

You know, dislikes are coming cause you said something irrelevant and stupid

posted on 28 Mar 2013, 11:56

101. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 805; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


posted on 27 Mar 2013, 11:23 3

47. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)

cmon expect dislikes..
xperia Z was actually made obosolete by htc one and galaxy s4,
i bet that even htc butterfly and oppo5 will throw that faulty flagship..
you and ur 4 followers or even.more are kinda desperate to raise ur innocence and inability to read and comprehend reviews..

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:14 16

3. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

No contest.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 11:05 3

44. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

"you'll be surprised at how polished and competent this phone feels."
This sentence shows everything. No contest for iPhone on PhoneArena.,
A 7 years old UI with almost everything the same can make me surprised, OMG so surprised.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:17 19

4. slannmage (Posts: 148; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)

At this point they're all good phones, buy whatever you like best and shut up.

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:34 15

8. ebubekir26 (Posts: 318; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)

this shouldn't even be posted, you know S4 $hits all over the iPhone

posted on 27 Mar 2013, 09:34 15

9. wando77 (Posts: 838; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

What is the entire front made of?
What are the sides made from?
Only the back plate is plastic and it needs to be to address one of the things you hate about the iPhone.....user replaceable battery.

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