Samsung Galaxy S4 Review
0. phoneArena 23 Mar 2013, 11:12 posted on
Another year, another Galaxy S phone! Since the very first Galaxy S, which came out in 2010, Samsung has been regularly refining and improving its formula for success in the mobile industry. It is mainly thanks to this series of handsets that the manufacturer is now enjoying lush revenue streams and having a profound influence over the whole Android ecosystem...
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160. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
Can we stop complaining about the score please. The s4 deserves this score. HTC would have easily tied it or got higher ratings if the battery was better, maybe included a sd card even though I feel 64 gb is plenty and maybe added a few more software features. Still, I know that I want the ONE and anybody else can tell me different
231. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The main problem with the HTC One is that it is way bigger than other 4.7 inch phones like the Nexus 4, One X, and Optimus G. That and the buttons are just bad. Reaching to the right to hit home is just not fluid.
162. R-vjn (Posts: 167; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)
I know this is gonna hurt a lotta butts in here, but the fact is that S4 is a massive disappointment. Its just a pack of useless features, most of which are not even explored by people using the phones.
HTC One is a better phone than the S4..!
Samsung fans, admit it..!
168. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
C'mon bro, let's stop this nonsense. The s4 is an amazing device. I am personally going to but the ONE, but your statement is just invalid
267. R-vjn (Posts: 167; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)
hey bro, just think about it. We all expected a lot to come from the s4 but when it launched, it was just a 5'' F-HD S3 with many features, software gimiks...
we are gonna pay a lot for the s4, and seriously, its gonna be for those features???? and also for the octo-core processor (which can only power 4 cores at once and for me its just a quad core), and the STUPID quality of the materials used to make it feel cheap and ugly..!
Just think about it, from now own many developers are gonna work on the software front and gonna bring similar or may be even advanced features like those in the s4, and its gonna be easy to have them in any phone with a processor and gpu to handle them..! (HTC One is gonna e in it, and even other phones with the S4 Pro chipset).
When I pay a huge amount for a phone, I want amazing performance, superb built quality and that amazing premium feel..! Which all will turn to the HTC One..!
Admit it my friend, the HTC One is a better phone here. And I'm not an HTC fan or a Samsung hater, but its the truth.
Even I was waiting for the launch of the S4 but it was a hurt in my butt too...
btw, I'm a Nexus 4 user..!
169. anjel1708 (Posts: 27; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
Mediocre sound on recording videos, speaker crackles at loud volumes, call quality acceptable, made with plastic. It seemed to me that in the article they kept saying phrases like this way too many times for it to get a score of 9.3. This score seems unjustified.
172. ama3654 (Posts: 254; Member since: 27 Nov 2012)
Yeah, can't wait to get this beast and all people around me, TOP DOG surely you are!
185. b1acktiger (Posts: 213; Member since: 19 May 2012)
2 days of battery backup with moderate usage ? "Big Fat Lie"
188. Ahsan (Posts: 37; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
Haters: Why should I buy this plastic crap phone?
Samsung: Because Sir 50 million people would buy this phone. :)
190. synot (Posts: 277; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
Why all the hypocrosy and hate ? Every CONSCIOUS person knows that the Samsung GS4 is the best phone on the market presently. The HTC ONE is good ,also the Sony Xperia but the S4 is still above them.
191. Diego! (Posts: 533; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)
I read something strange here.... I present my case: In the review: "but also to the nice glossy plastic material that's been used for the casing." // In the Cons: "Thin, plastic casing".
My point: "WTF????" As I read the review of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8, and you mentioned how nice the polycarbonate was and its hyperglaze, I knew you would place it as a con in the review of the Galaxy S 4, dear Ray S.
Please make up your mind. Either you like it or not.
Aside from that, there are some software features missing (i.e.):
And the Samsung version of Airview a la Flipboard.
196. YaBoiDre10 (Posts: 84; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
For those who purchasing the Xperia Z you'll go back to the store and exchange it for the S4 because of all the numerous problems those phones have. Buy a phone for its features and not it's design.
197. AstronautJones (Posts: 284; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
I dont get the brightness knocks. My Note 2 is set at about % 30 brightness and I have never had a problem. Not bright enough , but then it is too bright?
IMHO, i would have preferred more of a refresh in design. I am waiting for the Note 3 anyway...
199. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The HTC One doesn't have any notification toggles or looping home screen scrolling. Unless you root which is not always ideal since roms are buggier than the stock UI. Sure you can add widgets or a,custom launcher but that just clutters the home screen or add more bloat to go along with blinkfeed and the stock sense 5 launcher....
200. smooth4lyfe (Posts: 13; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)
- MicroSD Card
- AMAZING Camera features
- Removable Battery
- Amazing Processor
.....HTC One is second place
369. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
As for the "AMAZING Camera features, they were copied from LG ( Dual shot), HTC (dual photo & video button, drama shot; eraser, filters), Nokia ( Cinema photo), the only innovative feature in the S4 is sound & shot, and maybe "beauty face"
202. babyk (Posts: 247; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
Take a look at this crap these guys dont even knwo how to properly rate. Apple iPhone 4 Verizon Gets a solid 9 where as Apple iPhone 4s Gets a rating of 8.5 and the fu ...king list goes on and on. Apple iPhone 5 has non removeable battery and sd card and gets a 9 rating What the hell is going on with PHONEARENA? As far as i can see HTC One should have Given 9.5 at least with better sound and screen faster processor so much more cuz it looks like non removeable battery and sd card cant prevent apple from getting rating a of 9. SO what is the personal issue you guys have with HTC cuz i dont see one reason HTC cannot get at least 9.5 and above.
203. babyk (Posts: 247; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
As for s4 you guys are too interested in banchmarks SIMPLE. AS long as the phone gets a higher benchmark score its the best phone on the market for you fanboys.
204. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3046; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Larger display and yet both thinner and easier to hold than the previous model, much higher screen resolution thanks to the 1080p display that isn't pixelated or grainey. Bigger battery despite how much more thin it is and still removable with micro sd card slot. Improved camera and up to date android version(other than the Nexus series, no other phone is) Improved touchwiz that is even faster and smoother than even before.
The lists of improvements go on and on.
208. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
cheap feeling plastic in the hand that you would be a fool not to have a case on at all times (therefore making the thinness irrelevant) because of it's thinner size and larger display with no structural reinforcement over the SIII which didn't fare well at all in the drop tests itself. 1080p is nice but still a very minor improvement much like what can be said about the S4 as a whole. yeah, bigger battery is a plus but the extra 500mAh is going to be completely eaten by the 1080p display and the higher clocked CPU's & GPU's so i wouldn't expect better battery life than the SIII. microSD card slot is a plus, improved camera is a plus but when it comes to it having the most up-to-date version of Android it really doesn't matter. the S4 only has one of the major enhancements of 4.2 and that's the pull down toggles which is just cluttered up by Samsung. there's no lock screen widgets, none of Google's camera enhancements and the keyboard has taken a downgrade from Samsung's 4.1 keyboard it looks like. 4.2 from Samsung is nothing to celebrate over. they just want to shoehorn any Android aspects with their own features. TW as a UI has only received minimal touch-ups and most of the new features are quite gimmicky.
i'd get the One over the S4 pretty easily. Samsung can keep their "Tock" update.
234. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
thumbing me down clearly shows me there's people that either don't like me or like what i have to say but it doesn't show me i'm wrong so all i see are the 5 thumbs of butthurt Samsung fanboys.
236. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Your opinion can't be wrong because it is your opinion. It can be stupid and bias in the eyes of others though.
245. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
so being stupid and bias isn't wrong to you then?
explain to me why someone should see this as stupid and biased. just try not to give me the stupid and biased version. :P
252. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Well, a lot of your cons are pretty subjective. For example, the toggles that you say are cluttered compared to stock 4.2 seem pretty brilliant to me. You can minimize it, hide it away from the home screen, heck you can ignore it. open it if you need more toggles, and the best part is that it seems designed so that you rarely ever have to dig into the settings for anything. To me the way they handled toggles is pure win and a major strength.
That is only the first area I disagree with. i pretty much disagree with your entire post and in my eyes. all you are doing is reaching really hard to find things that you can use to discredit the GS4 with. To me that screams bias and a lack of objectivity which can appear to others as a lack of intelligence in constructing proper arguments.
255. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
well naturally the idea for Google to add that to Android natively came from OEMs like Samsung that already had it. Samsung pretty much just felt they should add onto it in their 4.2 build but they just threw in more toggles that most people are probably not even going to use and they took away the G+ link. it's not really bad per say but like i said it seems cluttered and i think they should've just done something completely different with that pane.
how is that so different than what you do with the One? trust me, that's just how i feel about the S4, i don't like it and i've had Samsung products. oh so to you if someone has a problem with something Samsung does then that someone is bias and unintelligent? such a fanboy...
315. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Well, it is different because I don't write off the features on the One as gimmicks. I mentioned blink feed once but never mentioned ZOE or slo mo video even though those two features are no better than the worse software feature on the GS4. I don't go out of the way to announce those things as gimmicks or cluttered or horrible.
The things I mention like lack of detail in the 4mp camera and very poorly placed buttons and HTC quality control issues are major issues. A bad keyboard or browser leads to poor usability and so does poor button placement and poor settings options.
Those issues are a far cry from oh the notification toggle is cluttered which is a strange thing to say and really reaching since it is closed most of the time and takes up one line in the notifcation shade. Sure some toggles won't be used most of the time but so are most of the settings. This prevents you from digging deeper into the settings when you have to and it stays out of your way when you don't. Again, saying that it is a con is really really bias and stretching it.
324. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
not really, you haven't exactly kept it a secret that you think the One is quite inferior to the S4 when to plenty of other people it isn't. hell I'd call Blinkfeed and Zoe gimmicks, that doesn't matter to me but you'd be a fool to down play HTC's effort with the One.
lol, not really guy. the button placement is something that only seems to be bothering you badly and there's pros and cons to the UM camera. for the occasional Facebook upload, Instagram shot and Snapchats it's perfect because the pictures are of fine quality for their small size which shouldn't have to be resized by any of those services.
my only real point to bringing that up was to point out how many of the Android 4.2 features made it over to TW and that they didn't exactly improve anything because those features were based off of what's been available from custom UI's like TW. I just don't think you
like that iI have such a strong opinion about the Galaxy S4 instead of blindly believing it's the best thing since sliced bread.
335. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Button placement isn't exactly arguable. A Canadian bilingual keyboard is placed worse than an English Canadian keyboard if you never plan to type in french. That is just how it is and the HTC One keys are not placed optimally compared to it's competition in any sense. It should have been better thought out period.
As far as the cons against the GS4, gimmicky software? Totally subjective. That is the difference between my complaints and your complaints. Your complaints are complaining about things you can ignore and mine are about things that you can't. You are saying my plate of food is too big, you don't need that big of a portion or these vegetables are gimmicky or just clutter up the plate and you are acting like that ruins the entire meal. I am complaining about my beef not being cooked properly. There is a huge difference. One is just whining and the other might appear like whining to some totally carefree souls but is generally a pretty big issue.
And saying that 4mp is ideal for facebook as being a pro is just flat out hilarious. 4 mp is a con, plain and simple. Just look at all the reviews. The gsmarena one is pretty damning.
As far as 4.2 goes. Well, even if you do not think that 4.2 adds much, and you are entitled to that opinion. It is still the latest code of Android and inherently more optimized for the Playstore and apps. You may not notice the differences but just knowing that the latest is there out of the box is good. I don't notice what every windows update does but at the very least, it helps me to rule out application incompatibility when I am trouble shooting an issue. Having 4.2.2 out of the box is great. I don't have to worry about any updates introducing a new bug or affecting battery life until Key Lime Pie.
Would you rather purchase a laptop with the latest version of Windows 8 right out of the box or would you rather purchase a laptop with an older version of Windows 8 where you have to wait for a critical update pack? Easy answer even if we do not notice any differences between the two versions.
There are some differences in 4.2.2 though, you just choose to write them off to justify HTC using 4.1.2 for the One.
353. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i don't really know what to say to you about the button placement. you really have some strong feelings about that. i don't have a problem with the button layout. i think it's kind of a nice minimalist approach but wuuuutever.
wow, what a load! you think your complaints about button placement and the UM camera are more substantial than my complaints about Samsung's use of cheap feeling plastic which clearly a LOT of people are at arms about? i think you have it a little backwards there guy. xD
i know what the reviews are saying. the One is obviously not the phone to get if you want the largest, most detailed pictures you can get but it is more ideal for casual photographers (who said anything about pro?) who just want to snap something real quick for Facebook or Instagram. there's a lot to be said about a 4MP camera that can at least bark up there with the big dogs.
that's all true however just know as long as Samsung has anything to do with the UI experience of your phone that you shouldn't get too excited about any new Google features. Samsung will demand all of the attention on them and as long as they're as content as they are with the way the things are i wouldn't expect anything radically different in the near future.
that's not really the same thing. HTC brought a whole new and improved UI with Android 4.1.2 which brought more radical changes to the experience than Samsung did with bringing UX to 4.2.2 and i'm not trying to justify HTC using 4.1.2, i don't care about that. the whole point is using a Galaxy S device becomes less like using an Android phone less and less as Samsung brings in more gimmicks to compete and that doesn't sit well with me. i'm more interested in the things Google has to offer me than more Samsung gimmicks people will hardly ever use or you have to have someone with another Galaxy S4 to use.
257. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4163; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I don't think the plastic is cheap feeling as it is cheap looking. I've heard a couple reviewers at the event saying that even though the GS4 is made of the same materials as the GS3, it has a more solid build to it. The only thing I don't like is the gloss, and the removable back which makes a weak point that can fly off when dropped. The GS4 does look cheap in comparison to HTC and Apple's metal, Sony's glass, and Motorola's Kevlar, but on its own it's just fine minus the gloss. But that's the problem, the GS4 isn't by itself; competition is tough this year.
As for 4.2 on the S4, Samsung didn't really put any elegance into it. They just slapped on the features and called it a day. Also, I'm pretty sure the GS4 does have lock screen widgets; you can see in PA's cold boot video they did at the GS4 event, once the phone booted up you can see the screen giving indication to swipe the edges of the screen for the widgets. I will definitely replace the keyboard with Swiftkey though. I was kind of looking forward to a nice re-design to Touchwiz, nothing major, just something new.
I probably will choose the One over the GS4, but I'll at least give it a chance and have my own hands on with it, it's only fair. I mean, you can't NOT at least try the new flagship Galaxy S device. The only real problems I have with my S2 is the old Touchwiz, the build quality, and the slight lag in web browsing.
Regardless, whichever I choose I'm going to sell it later in the year for the Motorola flagship or the Nexus 5. Trying to get a cycle going where I get 2 new devices a year; the HTC or Samsung flagship the first half, then sell that for the Nexus or Motorola flagship the second half.
327. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5669; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, it may be a little more solid than the SIII by being more condensed or something but if the material feels anything like the stuff used with the SIII which is certainly what it seems like i won't like it. Samsung just has this notorious way of making plastic just feel like plastic you know? some of their work is better than others like the SII for instance but the SIII's build is just too much. the plastic is thin and glossy and i just can't stand it.
oh well i may have been wrong about that one but nothing in any of their PR shots of the phone with it's lock screen on or anything shows that it has support for lockscreen widgets. yeah, their new keyboard looks pretty rough and dare i say Apple inspired? i fear that Samsung is taking a page from Apple's book and are just going to refuse to change anything that isn't broken.
you're 100% right Bezerk. i will of course look forward to fondling this new Galaxy S hardware myself but the S4 will not get the same kind of support from me that the SIII did just because i refuse to support a move like this from Samsung. HTC will probably receive most of my appreciation this year because they came out of the bag with something all around vastly improved so much so that they've gone from offering devices that i wouldn't really consider buying at all to offering wishlist toppers.
hm, it's a good plan. i may follow that plan myself. o:
always good to see you posting my friend. +1
339. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4163; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I agree, Samsung definitely needs a switch on the materials used on their phones. I just find it odd how the GS3 and One X are made of the same materials, but the One X feels/looks so much better in the hand. Maybe because of the One X's unibody design, or the absence of the hyper glaze finish, probably both. I was personally hoping for a design like the Wave 3 on the GS4, aluminum/matte polycarbonate with a sliding mechanism for access to the battery and micro SD slot. That keeps build quality in check while still having Samsung's tradition of removable battery and storage.
I wouldn't have caught the lock screen widgets myself if I wasn't intentionally looking for them. With Samsung not mentioning Android at all, I wouldn't have been surprised if they removed it, so I just stared at the sides of the display whenever the device was powered on until I saw it; it's actually a lot more subtle than it is on stock Android. The color scheme of the keyboard just screams iOS, I do appreciate the dedicated numbers row, however. I feel like Samsung is going to turn into the next Apple; watch it, if the GS5 still has a similar looking Nature UX, that's when we need to worry. Samsung fanboys are already acting like Apple fanboys (i.e richardyarrell).
HTC put a lot more effort into the One than Samsung did into the GS4, that's for sure. They overhauled Sense into a new minimalistic and modern look, packed it with a few useful features (BlinkFeed) and a few unique gimmicky ones (Zoe), gave it hardware features that really matter (front speakers), made sure it had the most desirable design they could muster, and took an unexpected step away from everyone else with the Ultrapixel camera. By the way, have you seen Pocket Now's comparison between the One's camera and the Lumia 920? The low light performance is absolutely amazing, definitely up there with the Lumia.
Here's a link;
Anyways, yeah, I'm having difficulties choosing my first device of the year. I'm leaning towards the Developer Edition of the One, but I'm not quite sure whether that supports T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 and their upcoming LTE network. So whether I should get the Developer Edition, international version, or the off contract T-Mobile variant is still unknown to me. But, that's if I choose the One at all; I still might get the international Exynos variant of the GS4, which I know I won't get LTE support but I would still get HSPA+ 42.
It's good to see you posting as well, nice to know there's at least one person here that can have rational arguments.
210. dapsta (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Well makes sence, everyone who has used the HTC camera says its crappy. The 4 Ultra Pixels are great for low light but the pictures end up with too much noise reduction and fussy.
They took a big bet and failed.
213. MIBLegend (Posts: 4; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)
1st I would say I don't like samsung smart phone so I want to give you all my honest opinion on this phone and 1st reaction when it is launched. And I really wan't some help to decide between S4 and HTC One. (I will appreciated all feedback but please give it with fair point not because your are a fanboy)
When I 1st saw this phone on their launch event, I was like crap it look exactly the same as S3. However, when HTC One is getting delay for release in Australia I have spent more time to check out the S4. I was wrong at some point, yes it is same design language with S3, no doubt but when look closer the round bezel does look nicer compare to S3. I like how it is make like a ring around the phone. It does like like metal material but I guess it is plastic. On the back of the phone I like the lay out of camera and flash light and the texture on black one. It doesn't look bored like poor black color. Also it doesn't look curvy on the side of the phone like S3. The shape look better I would say.
At this point I am standing in the middle of the fence, 1 side is S4, 1 side is HTC One. They are both good at some point and it is very hard for me to choose. I don't really care much about 1.7GHz or 1.9GHz because most of high end android phone now can do all the task smoothly, few extra GHz or number in benchmark won't make any difference. I don't care about battery life or removable battery because with Note II, I have to charge it twice a day anyway. SD Card is not really that important as long as they have 64GB internal or external I am fine. So I will list Pros and Cons of both devices in my view below so you guys can help me decide what to go for.
HTC One Pros: is really good at design in term of build quality and material choice and I like how the speaks are made in front with stereo sound.
HTC Cons: Yes Ultra Pixel provide good image with low light but when zoom to 100%, the picture look not sharp at all. I feel like I am using old day camera. This is really a deal breaker.
S4 Pros: does come with good round premium finish, I like how they done with it. The design of the phone I think is an improvement of S3. 13MP camera mean the picture will be sharper and crisper when I zoom in. Tons of features, even though none of us will use them all but still nice to have extra
S4 Cons: I just don't like the fact that it is made by plastic
What do I use my phone for?
- Watching movie & tv show everyday. I prefer to watch on phone more than on TV
- Occasionally taking picture and record family video when I go out
- Playing game sometime
- Surf web when I am not near my PC
What do I need from my phone?
- Nice looking device
- High end ofc
- Customer support
218. YaBoiDre10 (Posts: 84; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)
When the S3 was released people acted the same exact way. It's ugly, plastic, ect. They said the HTC One is better and look how that turned out. The S3 sold millions and the HTC one is obsolete lol. Same thing is going to happen this year. The S3 didn't have a best design but I feel the S4 has a better design plus more features. Stop basing your opinion on what YOU want because you don't like it. Somebody else does including this guy. Great job Samsung!
220. yasir-921 (Posts: 79; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)
Ray S has started to focus more on commercialisation rather than review on phones!
222. LebronJamesFanboy (Posts: 156; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)
Just saw the youtube video Review.
What is up with the Lag doing simple tasks? A phone with that high of a Quadrant Score still lags?
Not going back to Android till they fix this issue. Dropped frames everywhere.
224. LebronJamesFanboy (Posts: 156; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)
And you guys can downrank my comment all you want...Just look at the damn Video review.
There still is noticeable lag while scrolling and drops frames. It's funny how bad fanboys are getting everywhere.
This is coming from someone that owns a Nexus 7 and a Nexus 4.
225. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Hmm I am looking at XPERIA Z. You know why? Because it's retail price in India will "SINK" fastest as compared to S4 or HTC 1. From 39K on launch it has already sunk to low of 35K in less than 2 weeks on some online stores with 4K worth of freebies in addition. Come May/June and one could see it touch 28K on ebay. That's the right time/price i am looking at.
226. rahool360 (Posts: 15; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
My friend have a xperia z have used it too, its display sucks big time , so does it camera....but didnt use the htc one...but seeing what their screen is how good in htc one x, i think thier super lcd will rock......nd sup[er amoled is good, but if you use outside it will suck for sure...cant seee a thing.... but yes i alos think htc one look premium... if i alos buy i will go for it... if nokia doesnot come up with another phone with a 41 mp camera... i like clicking photos more than anything :)
227. rahool360 (Posts: 15; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
s4 is not bad... it have copieed every good features available(especially camera tricks) from both lumia 920 and thc one... so nothing new but u have to understand u will get all that features in one handset... unlike noka nd htc features u have to buy both phones.
261. kclgphilsbsa (Posts: 765; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)
wtf, those features are not invented by nokia nor htc one.. theyr already existing.. if nokia and htc one invented those things, sammy for sure will not use those..
c'mon stop the hate
228. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The HTC fans are getting desperate and pretty vocal here. The truth is, besides casing material, the HTC One barely beats the GS4 in the areas it wins like screen and low light pictures. Yet it gets destroyed by the GS4 in battery life, versatility, compactness for screen size, software features, camera, button layout, ergonomics.
I am not getting the GS4 and most likely keeping my Nexus 4 but a clean win is a clean win. The HTC has a ton of issues and the GS4 has no deal breakers. In fact, the Note 2 just beat the HTC One in a fair dog fight. Imagine how badly the GS4 is going to slaughter it.
235. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Deja Vu anyone? Engadget, The Verge, and Pocketnow will end up giving the HTC One the better score based on bias and the rest will give it to the GS4. Then after the buzz wears off, the major flaws in the HTC One begins to rear it's ugly head and people begin to realize that the GS4 is way better. Just like what happened to the HTC One X when people began to realize that the GS3 was much much better.
This is similar to what happens to couples. You don't know how annoying they are until you move in together. You don't know how crappy HTC phones are until you use them as your daily driver.
That is how I think things will play out again. Of course some people can see through HTC right away and do not need to let it sink in.
310. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1034; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Hipocracy anyone? You call everyone a fanboy because they don't share the same OPINION than you, and then you are clearly the biased one, while i said the "plastic is cheap" about the Galaxy S IV look at the speech you made up for the HTC One, i don't know why you hate that phone so much you are stating that 3 websites are biased just because they rated a phone higher than your beloved Samsung, and then the others are fanboys, right?
316. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I am just calling out the obvious fanboys. If they don't need a valid reason to call out the GS4, why do I need a valid reason to call out the fan boys?
My reasons for calling out the HTC One are valid and major issues. Not this is plastic crap and just gimmicks.
That is not hypocracy. Go look up the meaning of the word.
322. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1034; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Sorry, from the moment you bash people who are bashing Phonearena for this review to bashing several websites that are way better than phonearena imo because they rate high a phone you don't like that is fanboyism at its finest. As i said somewhere in the comments of this review i said the Galaxy was a nice phone and so are every flagship this year, all of them have their flaws.
336. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You missed my point entirely. I said that I am just joining them. If you can't beat them with logic, join them.
If the fan boys choose to stretch quarter truths and champion them as 100% truths, then I will reply to them in the same manner.
If they choose to have a logical discussion with me, then I will post like a normal person would. Unfortunately, not many people here are open to having real discussions.
Even so, my nature doesn't allow me to stray too much so I just bash the HTC One in the areas that are really horrid and I leave the subjective areas like ZOE and sense 5 alone. Of course, you and the HTC fan boys still trash touchwiz and software futures that you may not find useful but others might like it is the plague and the end of the world.
Anyways, there are no double standards here so there is no hypocrisy. I talk to fan boys like fan boys. That is called being consistent, more of an opposite of hypocrisy.
238. sebaa (Posts: 27; Member since: 30 Jun 2009)
Only cons is: NO RADIO, end no camera key / xenon flash .
253. Taters (Posts: 3810; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I never use those two features at all but I am not going to discredit them as gimmicky. Those are legitimate cons because I believe choice is never a bad thing when it comes to smart phones.
That is something the Samsung haters should remember. Just because you do not use them, it doesn't mean you can just write those features off and still appear objective.
268. voxmarc (Posts: 322; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
there is a Radio on all Samsung device including S4.
346. sebaa (Posts: 27; Member since: 30 Jun 2009)
I just look at the app menu end there no Radio app !
239. MrJerry (Posts: 401; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
The best phone ever
Even if it is not finalized version, it beats everything out there lol
And some people are mad...why?
240. S3Mama (Posts: 1; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)
I have a S3 and waited for the S4 to come out with built-in wireless charging but now it's a $100 bulky add-on. So I found a S3 wireless charger SET for $40 from Monster Watts and they will accept the S3 receiver for trade in when the S4 is available. The included charger is Qi standard too so even if I don't get the S4 later, I can use it with another phone that uses the Qi-maybe Note 3?