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Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5

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The Samsung Galaxy Note II camera interface has most major options we are accustomed to with flagship Androids, like face/smile recognition, Panorama, HDR, low light mode and so on. It also offers an abundance of scene and focus modes, as well as number of color effects.

Camera interface of the Samsung Galaxy Note II - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
Camera interface of the Samsung Galaxy Note II - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
Camera interface of the Samsung Galaxy Note II - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
Camera interface of the Samsung Galaxy Note II - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5

Camera interface of the Samsung Galaxy Note II


The iPhone 5 mostly takes care of everything on its own, deciding what is best for the scene in front of it on the fly, and sports a fast HDR mode for tricky lighting situations. There is a new option for panoramic photos introduced now, which stitches many megabytes of photos (up to 28 megapixels) very quickly with very good end results.

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The camera interface of the Apple iPhone 5 - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
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The camera interface of the Apple iPhone 5


When it comes to picture quality, the phones are about equal outside under broad daylight, with high levels of detail and good color representation, without excessive noise. The iPhone 5 manages scenes with high dynamic range better, though, whereas we get slightly overexposed bright spots with the Note II, and overall more washed-out photos in the sun. The iPhone 5 also sports more contrast in its pictures, making them more visually appealing.

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The 1080 videos from the iPhone 5 and the Note II fly smooth with 30fps inside and outdoors, and exhibit the same great amount of detail and crisp focus as the still scenes, with no visible artifacts or skipped frames, yet the iPhone 5 footage comes with higher contrast, and looks less washed out under bright sunlight.

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Multimedia:

The picture and video gallery on the Note II sports the added advantage of splitting the screen with folders on the left for faster navigation, and it also has richer editing capabilities built into it.

The music players on both devices offer tune categorizations and minimalistic interface, with more functionality offered by the Note II via sound modes and equalizer presets that are built into the player interface. Note II also has an FM radio. The loudspeakers are of excellent quality on both handsets in terms of strength, but the iPhone 5 unit sounds a tad fuller and clearer.

The Nature UX music player - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
The Nature UX music player - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5

The Nature UX music player

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Apple’s music player - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
Apple’s music player - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5
Apple’s music player - Samsung Galaxy Note II vs Apple iPhone 5

Apple’s music player


As far as video playback goes, the Note II has the upper hand, not only because of the gargantuan 5.5” display, but also since it plays every format you throw at it, up to 1920x1080 definitions. Here the Note II battery life gets a boost compared to the iPhone 5, as the AMOLED screen consumes less energy compared to LCD when displaying colorful scenes. The advantage is commensurate with the one of iPhone 5 when browsing - an hour and change more for the Note II out of runtimes already in excess of 10 hours of video playback for both devices. And if you are watching Die Hard 2, with a lot of snowmobile chasing through the white wilderness, the roles might be reversed.

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posted on 11 Oct 2012, 08:32 45

1. Fayeznoor (Posts: 65; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


its like comparing mother to her pre-mature baby ;)

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 08:36 38

3. Connie.Linghus (banned) (Posts: 32; Member since: 14 Aug 2012)


You mean comparing a Mother to her unborn iFetus.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:14 12

11. redsox420 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)


Abort abort its not going to live past 1 year anyways

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 16:18 11

38. Jelly_Bean (Posts: 109; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


Its like comparing a dog with Lion :p

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 17:25 2

39. Hemlocke (unregistered)


Yes, and it's a shame that Samsung will have to put that dog down after the mauling it just took at the Apple lion's paws.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 17:56 13

40. Jelly_Bean (Posts: 109; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


lolzz I said dog to iCrap 5 can't you make out?
You are one of those retarded iFans.

Tell me honestly is there any comparison between
The Beast and iCrap 5?

posted on 04 Nov 2012, 08:17

93. molanjames (Posts: 61; Member since: 11 Oct 2012)


Hi @jelly_bean I do not agree with you , you are just trying to d grade Samsung Galaxy Note II , I would say The Galaxy Note II is a huge leap over the previous generation and if any one has galaxy note it would be wise to sell your oroginal asap for an upgrade. according to movaluate’s fair market appraisal http://www.movaluate.com/samsung/galaxy-note-16GB-unlocked , owener could still get $369.00 for his old Samsung Galaxy Note 16GB , which could help pay for the awesome new galaxy note II

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 18:24 4

43. jroc74 (Posts: 4076; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


All I know is....whoever mistakes a Note and Note 2 for an iPhone....needs to just go live in a cave somewhere.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 22:46 7

47. Jelly_Bean (Posts: 109; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)


Then that person needs a life

posted on 17 Nov 2012, 09:13

97. ex_apple (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Nov 2012)


iPhone 5 side by side is like a premature ejaculation and fart at the same time. Why can't apple be 100% sure before they pushed it out to the market? All those promises smells like crap now. And yet they still sell it like gold bars. iPhone 5 owners would be pissed off when they found out that it has a glitch in its swiping.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 08:35 35

2. Connie.Linghus (banned) (Posts: 32; Member since: 14 Aug 2012)


That's like comparing a Teeny-TiNy iAnt to a mighty LION.

Of course, the iAnt will be lost because it will be using Apple mAps.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 08:36 34

4. e.wvu (unregistered)


Great review, Daniel P. Actually enjoyed reading it! Already preordered the Note II, can't wait to get it in my hands!

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 08:47 14

6. darkkjedii (Posts: 9349; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Good comment, instead of posting something dumb and childish u simply chose What's best for u. Smart and mature.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 11:12 10

28. oying24 (Posts: 48; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


i agree..this is the best comment coming from an android user.. mature enough indeed.

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 09:46 1

54. darkkjedii (Posts: 9349; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Yep...

posted on 16 Oct 2012, 06:36

83. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)


Challenge on my friend. Your so soft it's pretty comical. Acting like your about something. Gosh this site is pretty comical with these new trolls showing up daily..

posted on 17 Oct 2012, 08:20 2

89. jaimeovarela (Posts: 7; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)


Says the man with the split mustache.... ???? Jus saying? LOL

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:00 6

8. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


should be getting my hands on a demo one myself this evening,cant wait

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:15 7

13. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Will be buying it in 2weeks time, Sim-Free. Excited.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 08:38 13

5. jaimeovarela (Posts: 7; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)


prettifying!!!! love the word!! YAY for Note II

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:10 8

9. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


"...however, has higher 326ppi pixel density vs the Note II’s 256ppi..." Note II's ppi is 267. A simple calculation will tell that. So correct that mistake Daniel...
BTW nice comparision...

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:18 1

15. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Why on earth did they use 267 instead of 300+ This was a major let down.....

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:24 8

18. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1940; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I like the way you say that as if you'd be able to tell the difference by looking at nothing other than the screen.

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 11:46 3

58. ddeath (Posts: 153; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)


He probably uses the phone 1 inch away from his face so it is a major letdown to him.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:29 15

21. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


As you see, Note II is bigger and heavier than normal smartphones. So we tend to use it from more distance than we use regular small sized phones. which is about 15 inches... So considering that note II has 267 ppi, another calculation will show that it falls beautifully in to the retina category that everyone is going gaga about. Its not a let down, its logic... BTW i love the Sharukh Khan user image you use. Guess you are from India...

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:40 5

24. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 238; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)


Thanks, we've corrected the Note II's pixel density information

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 12:42

32. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)


^^phone arena team?? hahaha

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:12 9

10. rawdeal (Posts: 21; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


i am using note 2 and i am loving it... truly creative and a mammoth phone...

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:18

14. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


could you tell me whether the colours are over saturated and look incorrect as said in this comparison? Does texts look sharper?

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:19

16. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


They don't look sharper, but the Amoled+ kind helps.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:35 6

23. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


You just said you are going to buy that in the coming weeks, now you comment about the display as you are using that.... Liar liar...

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:26 1

19. vddeguzman (Posts: 41; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)


The colors are less saturated than usual amoleds. Colors are warmer as what the review said. Lower ppi doesnt matter because of the new matrix arrangement. Pixels are still more visible in note 1. I love my new note and im happe to upgrade from note 1

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:29 1

22. megasword350 (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


can't you post a video please ??

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:14 5

12. doejon (Posts: 311; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


note 2 rulz baby!!!!

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:21

17. Nookie4u (Posts: 127; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)


Donno man, I like both of them. haha.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 09:28 2

20. redsox420 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)


The ENTIRE iphoney fits in the screen AND you can still see a portion of the screen on the note 2.. I have the Infuse and the older gen iphoneys fit within the screen size and screen image was still able to be seen.

Big Fruity said this is a phone for everyone? HUH? I doubt Shaq would be able to use the iphoney. His thumbs are bigger than the device. I doubt Andre the Giant would have been able to use the iphoney. How about Paul Bunyan? How about Goliath? LOL Seriously to each their own.

Good review. The human eye can't distinguish higher than 300 or so pixels.. anything more just makes the image fuzzier not sharper. If Big Fruity went to a 4.5" screen then maybe they'd compete

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 11:15 2

29. oying24 (Posts: 48; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


shhh... just select what u like.. that's all.. too many words to express that huh..

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 10:01 5

25. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


If i add a $100 to price of iPhone5 64GB (In India) i can buy 2 Galaxy Note II. So i would love to buy one NOTEII anyday and from the money saved (by chosing NOTEII over IP5) can buy some gold jewelry for wife and still have something left for a nice dinner in a nice restaurant. So now tell me why should i buy a iPhone 5? I love substabce over style so let's put the style factor out :)

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 10:25 3

27. sheik (Posts: 249; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


iPhone 5 is not yet released in India, So I dont understand your claim about the pricing. Even if that is the fact, as per your pricing correlation you are comparing a 16 GB note II with 64 GB iPhone 5 which again seems unfair. I too love note II, but you are judging something by paralleling two very different memory variants and planning about buying jewels and dinner... Weird....

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 11:17 2

30. oying24 (Posts: 48; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


thats what we call fanboy buddy..too obssesed of android thingy..

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 13:46

35. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Really? hmmm :)

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 12:04

31. CDGMobile (Posts: 29; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


Since were talking about variants on these phones isnt the Note coming out with a higher than 16GB Variant?

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 13:20 3

34. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Are you living in India? There you go :)

http://www.ebay.in/itm/Apple-iPhone-5-New-Factory-Unlocked-64GB-White-Silver-/130771963109?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1e729dcce5

And Note II
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Galaxy-Note-II-GT-N7100-Grey-EMI-/280991475299?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item416c65a663

I can add micro Sd card to NOTE II to take it beyond IP5's 64GB which really wouldnt cost me as much much :)

So nothing wierd as i ain't halkucinating ... but based on available market facts.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 16:07 1

36. bucky (Posts: 1222; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Those phones aren't sold in India.

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 07:40 2

52. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Who told you? Don't tell me ebay india is a fraudster of a site.... learn to read at least :)

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 10:20 9

26. twens (Posts: 447; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I got the note 2 yesterday. All I can say is that this fon is the best handset or smartphone I have ever used. Android on a note is taken to a different level. People who think touchwiz is wack need to rethink.its the best and most feature packed skin out there. The phone is just productive.smooth like butter, fast like lightening. Camera is great and I dont see any issues like the reviewers r trying to make us believe.screen is great with lots of details. Its best for chatting and browsing and battery life is better than all my previous smartphones.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 13:01 3

33. LordDavon (Posts: 105; Member since: 19 Sep 2011)


These are my choices right now. While I currently have a Nexus 7, and Galaxy S II, which I carry everywhere, I also have a 27" iMac, Macbook Pro, and iPad 2012. Getting the iPhone 5 would lock together my main systems, but I can replace the Nexus 7, and Galaxy S II units, with a single Note II.

Honestly, I like having Android on the go, which is why I've always had an Android phone. As well, I am fine with moving to iOS. But, I do prefer a phone that is more of a universal tool, over just a smartphone. So, I am leaning towards the Note II. Besides, I am not sure if I can go down to a 4" screen, as my Galaxy S II is 4.52".

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 18:06 5

42. stondec (Posts: 2; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)


Once you've used a large screen phone, you can never go back. I thought the Note's screen was too large, then I actually used a friends note 1 for 2 days and my SGSII began to feel like a POS. Now, all phones smaller than the note seem inadequate.

Also after using the Note 10.1 for about a month, I just can't find any phone or tablet without the spen function and multiscreen feature up to my standard.

The only thing I like about the iPhone 5 is the black color, otherwise the Note II blows it out of the water in every practical way; I'l rather go for a much more functional Note II than a relatively useless iPhone 5

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 04:30 4

50. mnyoka (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


thats so true

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 08:13 2

53. LordDavon (Posts: 105; Member since: 19 Sep 2011)


That's actually where I am leaning. The Note II just makes more functional sense over the iPhone. With the 3100mah battery, I may actually survive a work day. My Galaxy S II doesn't last too long since I got ICS, and it really showed me how important having a good battery life is.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 16:09 12

37. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


Note 2 thats all i need to know. The Champ is here

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 17:57 5

41. stondec (Posts: 2; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)


Love the note II. Most advanced phone in the world. You won't find any more feature pack, easy to use, functional, practical and versatile.
I'll be one of the first to get this phone once it lands on US shores.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 19:33 4

44. nofear (Posts: 147; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)


Why? the hell an author compare this iCrap5 with Note II, it's over price and feature less phone with despite of feature it dare to added $30 lightning connector (rigged) for idiots iFan and dumb enough to purchase it. Apple is controlling a freak, iFans-idiots still don't get it. Night and day differences. This iCrap5 is can not even come close of MOTO Bionic - it's only three years old. GS III is crushing iCrap5 flat into likes a cow turd, flatten by the car already. Why???? Apple iconic is an old sh!t, Apple's innovation has gone Ta--Turd.

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 04:28 2

49. mnyoka (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


im asking myself the same question they are so outdated this phonearena guys and so hell bound about appls

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 20:50 2

45. letgomyeggroll (Posts: 137; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)


If you notice when you the article, everytime the Note II has a good review. The writer seems to redirect the subject and try really hard to find something positive about the IPhone to bury the Note.

Really!!! If you're going compare stop being BIAS!!!!!!!!! I know its hard for some people not to destracted by the Rainbow logo.

And yes I know it's appes to oranges, but keep it real or don't do the article at all.

posted on 11 Oct 2012, 22:35

46. predator93 (Posts: 120; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


I would like someone to compare Note 2 with this monster :
http://www.gsmarena.com/49inch_sharp_aquos_zeta_sh02e_droid_headed_to_ntt_docomo_-news-4930.php

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 19:40

62. SolidSnakeCG (Posts: 8; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)


ehhhh got the snaps

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 04:26 2

48. mnyoka (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)


how do u even think of comparing the two? its like pairing citi golf against ML 55 AMG phonearena please if you dont have anythiung to write about u better shut down your website

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 07:32 1

51. RGreen (Posts: 48; Member since: 06 Jul 2012)


The Best of Both Worlds
Why not get both , if you already have more then one line , thats what I plan to do and then i'll know fo rmy self which is the supreme handset

posted on 12 Oct 2012, 10:40

55. Ninetysix (Posts: 1086; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3206...apple-iphone-5

Note2 wins 3 out of the 12 benchmarks ..They should have included an S4 Pro instead of that POS S4.

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