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Samsung Galaxy Nexus vs Apple iPhone 4S

0. phoneArena 02 Dec 2011, 10:35 posted on

Now that we've closely examined the Galaxy Nexus and the Galaxy S II side by side, and determined that Google's latest and greatest does indeed set new standards with its redesigned software platform and beautiful screen, it seems like the next logical step for us is to set the stage for a nice tactical fight between the new Nexus and the overly-polished iPhone 4S...

This is a discussion for a review. To read the whole review, click here

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:19

26. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


The problem with reviews and comparison is that not only the device is put to test but other aspects on how the ecosystem evolves (by that I mean how the is looks and feels now as compared with before how de device feels as compared with before and so on)

When you put the nexus and ICS you can tell the experience has become much robust and polished than before this gives plus points because the company is focused on giving a fresh experience with an OS and a device .Joshua for example loves multi task and asked himself in the review how could he live with the old multi task.


Now when you put the 4S compared with the previous ios experience you see it remains nearly the same the OS is not changing and the experience compared is nearly the same as the year old version aside from a few tweaks here and there. So you don't feel like you should give extra credit.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:34 2

32. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Very good points protozeloz.

I suppose us phone consumers who are nerds have gotten used to seeing something new and shiny brought to the market, and we get disappointed when it's "the same ole crap." But maybe what we don't appreciate is the polish that has taken shape. iOS hasn't changed TOO much since its inception, but it has definitely gotten more refined over the years. But because the UI hasn't gotten a complete overhaul, it doesn't feel new and shiny. But is that a BAD thing? The refinement is why it runs so smoothly on less RAM.

ICS has brought that new feeling, and it looks like it works quite well. And it represents what the mobile industry has come to expect: an evolving mobile OS that changes with the quickly changing industry demands, while bringing more ecosystem integration with PCs and Android tablets.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:55 1

36. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I personally think reviewers look at those small details, but they also look at how the OS advances, anyone that has touched froyo for example on the dual core Motorola Atrix Will find himself overwhelmed by not only the cosmetic change but the performance changes done to the OS on the dual core Galaxy Nexus, as a reviewer is something that will not be overlooked that both devices posses around the same power aspect (Im counting that atrix is 1Ghz and G-Nex is 1.2 but the new Ress should make up for that) so ICS is an advance in User experience performance and looks 3 important aspects

now when we have the 4s and 4 you see that user experience has remained about the same maybe a dot higher performance has being increased but looks remains the same.

is not that IOS has a bad experience or a lame performance or a bad Look. but its just that android has increased its numbers by a lot nearly being a minor difference between them , its what gives the nexus such a high score while still being comparable with iPhone 4S

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:35 1

33. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Also protozeloz,

My definition of "ecosystem" is quite different than yours. Mine is this: how well does my device fit in with my other devices and services?

To this definition, nobody does this better than Apple (particularly with AppleTV, iTunes, Mac, iPad, iPod Touch).

Some say that people are "walled in" with Apple, but if their devices and services work so well together, why would you want to leave that?

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:16 1

45. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I see ecosystem this way:

when it comes to ecosystems with other apple products ( AppleTV, iTunes, Mac, iPad, iPod Touch) no one is going to beat apple at that their products work the best with their products.

but when your ecosystem has many variables (a windows Computer A Linux Computer various music sources various other services and devices) I really like how android stands on its own. I mean before iOS5 updating your iPhone and tab was too dependent on having other devices or services around you, with android I feel that whatever I decide to get however I decide to work as long as I made a Google account I'm likely to be covered. Android tries to make an ecosystem based on you (USB Host, fast app download and recovery apps that can replace main features and ad extra tricks) using things as you see fit (there are always limitations tho).

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 22:23 1

83. Lavi55 (Posts: 4; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)


"nearly the same as the year old version"

They've got notifications!

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 14:26 2

61. nastynaps (Posts: 93; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


I'd have to agree and say it sounds like the 2 should have gotten the same score. I see no great variation except OS, so it looks to me that people shouldn't really criticize by calling this site iphonearena when it seems they're clearly supporting android over ios. Maybe the score was really done just to stop the criticism as being partial to iphone, but phonearena should realize if neither side is happy then you're doing the job perfectly.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:22 1

14. remixfa (Posts: 14067; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


not gonna bother reading it (no offence to the writer, just not a point of interest for me, im sure its exellent writing :) )

I just wanted to comment that the i4s is nearly as big as the screen on the nexus.. lol. never think about just how much of a size difference they are until they are beside each other.


get in my belly!!! lol

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:42 2

20. robinrisk (unregistered)


Actually its not very good writing at all. Halfway through the article, i knew it was Ray S. and scrolled up to confirm.

He is really biased. He tries not to, and point by point he is not biased. But the wording of the comparison makes it clear that he is pushing the iPhone.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:22 4

27. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Disagree with you robinrisk, I thought it was actually a pretty good unbiased comparison.

The only problem was that the conclusion was that both phones are great in their own way. That is not what these "vs" articles are about (to a certain extent I suppose they are). They're about pointing out the differences and choosing a winner. In this case, it should have been the Nexus, so that the higher scoring choice (Nexus to 4S, 9.5 to 8.5) coincides with their "vs" result.

Judging by your avatar photo, it's clear you want Android to win. I think the real unbiased view comes from you people who desperately want the reviewer to side with Android. You cheer when Android wins, and get angry when it's even or when non-Android wins.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:27 1

28. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


i agree with you though not everybody is same.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 14:31

62. robinrisk (unregistered)


I understand you point of view, and i know that the points that he made were fair, the conclusion was correct since with Top of the Line phones its all about preference.

However, the wording of the article favored the iPhone. I Knew it was Ray S. without looking at his name, just by the way that he puts the NExus Characteristics and the iPhone ones, while not-so-subtly upselling the iOS ones.

The points were not biased, the conclusion was not biased, but the wording was.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:03 1

65. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


robinrisk,

What do you mean by this?
"The points were not biased, the conclusion was not biased, but the wording was."

Aren't WORDS supposed to form together to make POINTS? How was the WORDING biased, but his POINTS weren't?

Your comment makes my left brain look at my right brain and say, it's dark in here.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:50

35. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I did that with my RAZR and the wife's iphone 4S.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:28 2

16. elite monkey (Posts: 21; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


"more thought has gone into the design and execution of the iPhone 4S".... its a year and a half old design that has seen no change from the last model

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:32 2

18. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


You could look at that as a compliment dear elite monkey. The design is still good, even a year and a half later.

But ya know, glass half empty is a cool way to live life, too.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 11:47 4

21. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


i know you always talk sense so dont mean to offend you but iPA gave galaxy nexus 9.5 and an 8.5 to iphone4s. if iphone is better or equal to galaxy nexus then it should also get 9.5 or more. i mean no doubt iphone is a great product but galaxy nexus is better. onlything which is better on ip4s is its camera. for rest its nexus all the way.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:01 4

24. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


I'm curious, what do all y'all think about price?

Is the $299 16GB Galaxy Nexus better than the $199 16GB iPhone 4S? For equal price $299, you can get a 32GB iPhone 4S.

Since both do NOT have expandable storage, I see these as the differentiators:

Galaxy Nexus:
- Large 4.65” screen
- Better contrast display
- LTE
- NFC
- Eventually Adobe Flash
- Better Google integration (mail, maps, etc)
- More social and customizable OS out of the box
-- fully customizable through root and ROM

iPhone 4S:
- Better photo and video camera
- Better battery life
- More compact
- “Premium” feel
- More stable OS
- More vetted apps
- More games
- Better ecosystem integration (Apple)
- Faster web browser
- Siri assistant
- Customizable through jailbreak

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:27 2

29. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


the lte Verizon model is said to be 32GB. Won't know till its final

And you forgot to say the nexus us supposed to have:

-better dictation
-more photo editing snapping and management tools
-better cloud services

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:42 1

34. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Good call on the 32GB LTE version....didn't know that, and yes we'll see. Also good call on the cloud services and photo editing (although apps take care of that on iPhone).

Hm, I think that should be the next "vs": Siri vs Galaxy Nexus dictation.

I know the Galaxy Nexus allows you to see real time what you are dictating, but not sure on the accuracy.

Siri's dictation is very accurate and excellent at capitalization with first words of sentences and pronouns (names, landmarks, etc).

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:03

40. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


it was demoed and turned out very well I have to say that Google has being working really hard on understanding your way of talking, on my old android phones dictation started being 60% accurate back on 2.1 now i can say without fear its 95% accurate for me on my both languages, that's without testing the ICS dictation yet but siri uses a really good dictation so ill have to wait for a 4S to fall on a friends hand to play with it.

I think we also took a small leap when it comes to text correction because now we can drag words around (or maybe I'm doing it wrong on my friends iPhone) witch is really nice.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:54 1

59. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Ah, good points protozeloz. I didn't even THINK about multiple languages.

And you're right about the iPhone not able to drag words. They can cut and paste, but it's not as elegant as drag/drop...that would be nice!

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 14:24 1

60. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


when I saw drag and drop I though it was a nice addition, you will sure feel more comfortable just moving the word to a new place than cutting it and paste it, hopefully it will be introduced on iOS too.

about dictation its really nice to have multiple languages yet not everyone could be interested in this to me is nice because I can write a friend a message in English using dictation then message another in other language really fast.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:28 4

30. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


i would still go with nexus.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:40 5

56. cristhiansaid (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Jun 2010)


iphone 4s
Faster Web browser????
i have use safary in my iphone 4 and compare to android browser. i keep with android.. android experience is like a desktop experience.. redundancy.. is very very very faster, is easy, is customizable.. etc etc.....

many peoples buy a Cell phone for web browsing, chat,EMAILS, etc, not only for games..

and with android that experience for ME is much much better than APPLE..

Is my opinion and experience in that point :)

posted on 10 Jan 2012, 00:50 1

145. scottz (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


Safari does a better job rendering pages. I haven't used the ICS browser yet however this has always been the case up to ICS. Safari provides a consistently smooth experience. Their may be more Android devices out there, but IOS web browsers consume twice the data.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 08:46 1

89. Evil_SaNz (Posts: 258; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


And again, all the benchmarks or side by side comparisons show that the gn has the best web browser and you say the opposite. Battery on the gn is told to be very good, I'd wait to claim victory.

posted on 10 Jan 2012, 00:48

144. scottz (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


Android browser is inferior in rendering and consistant responsiveness.

posted on 10 Jan 2012, 00:47 1

143. scottz (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


You summed up the differences like I did. I wanted a one-hand phone, I didn't want 4G, flash, and customization means nothing to me. Better google integration would be nice, but syncing/pushing to the IOS apps works fine for me. The two main things that got me to get an iphone is the (sounds cheesy I know) premium feel and added scrutiny App Store apps go through. I actually went to best buy to get a Galaxy S2 when the 4S came out, I held a ip4 in one hand and the GS2 in the other, one felt nice, the other felt like cheap plastic.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 12:59 2

37. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


I think that for average joe who doesn't want to play with gazillion settings IPhone is better overall (can't believe I said that).
Screen which is still great, despite older technology, better eco system (imo), much better camera (nexus can't even hold a candle for it), overall look and feel (can't decide..Iphone loo great and sophisticated...but is hellishly fragile and uncomfy for me).
On the other side we got nexus which is like future proof device. Looks pretty cool.
Doesn't have quad core but maybe thanks to ICS dual cores existence will finally have some sense. 720p screen (which is not completely 720p but still very good)...but WHY ONLY 16 GIGS OF INBUILD MEMORY???????
You were laughing at apple samsung and you did the same.

I don't defend IPhone. I don't like Iphones and products made by apple, but it would be really tough call if I could choose for free one of these peaches.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:03 2

39. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


32GB built in - but, I hate that it is no expandable.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:01 4

38. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


No contest - SGN has LTE 4G and a bigger screen - that right there is the main reason to get the SGN. Iphone 4S has a premium feel to it? Well, so does my RAZR - that should not be a reason to buy the phone.
Phone 4S:
- Better photo and video camera - seriously, if it is better, it is not by much.
- Better battery life - no, when up against a high-end Android, it does not. even.
- More compact - that is not a pro - small screen is not a pro.
- “Premium” feel - not a pro.
- More stable OS - Huh, I have two phones on 2.3.5 and they are stable.
- More vetted apps - ok, sure - 1 million to 250k apps
- More games - I have over 200 on my captivate....not much of a deal breaker
- Better ecosystem integration (Apple) - hmmm, give me more examples
- Faster web browser - mine is fast
- Siri assistant - not a factor, for me
- Customizable through jailbreak - ANdroid is better with or without root at this, and new ROMs give your old Android that new phone feeling...iphone 4S is boring

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:41 2

57. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Can someone with an unbiased view respond to my comment? networkdood couldn't do it.

My rebuttal:

- Better photo and video camera - seriously, if it is better, it is not by much.
-- Look at any review, the sample photos and videos are much better on the 4S, look at the sharpness, color accuracy, and listen to the sound quality between the sample videos.

- Better battery life - no, when up against a high-end Android, it does not. even.
-- Multiple reviews (including this one) have said it gets better battery life.

- More compact - that is not a pro - small screen is not a pro.
-- Yes it's a pro for some. For example, I don't want a giant SGN in my pocket or on my arm when working out.

- “Premium” feel - not a pro.
-- Samsung’s phones are constantly labeled as “non-premium feeling” because of their mostly plastic construction.

- More stable OS - Huh, I have two phones on 2.3.5 and they are stable.
-- Maybe I should have stated "more fluid" instead. Smoother app transitions and home screen navigation. And I don’t care about your 2.3.5 phones, this “vs” is against the Galaxy Nexus.

- More vetted apps - ok, sure - 1 million to 250k apps
-- 4x is a lot more, and I don’t know if all 250k of those Android apps are vetted. Just cause they’re in the Android market, doesn’t mean they’re vetted.

- More games - I have over 200 on my captivate....not much of a deal breaker
-- I should have said “more quality games”

- Better ecosystem integration (Apple) - hmmm, give me more examples
-- Better integration with other devices (iPad, iPod Touch, Mac, AppleTV) and services (iTunes, iCloud, AirPlay), everything “just works” together.
Examples: use iPhone to remotely scroll and play iTunes songs in iCloud to play on AppleTV connected to main stereo, AirPlay videos/music/photos or mirror iPhone 4S screen to AppleTV.

- Faster web browser - mine is fast
-- Once again, don’t care about yours, it’s a “vs” with SGN, and the 4S is faster.

- Siri assistant - not a factor, for me
-- Don’t care about you, this is unbiased.

- Customizable through jailbreak - ANdroid is better with or without root at this, and new ROMs give your old Android that new phone feeling...iphone 4S is boring
-- Agreed that new ROMs make Android more customizable, but jailbreak gives a lot of essential tweaks available to iOS users to give it that “new phone feeling.”

posted on 10 Jan 2012, 00:59 1

146. scottz (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


I will comment on a couple and try to provide some enlightenment.
The iPhone is a one-handed device, this is a pro to me. I was conflicted about screen size but I opted for the phone I could fully use with one hand.
I went to Best Buy and held the Galaxy S2 in one hand and the iPhone 4 in the other. No way I could pay $200 for a cheap (feeling) piece of plastic.
Stable OS, IOS doesn't freeze up like Andoird has a history of doing. Some of the cheaper Android phones have periodic crashes also (so I hear form co-workers)
ecosystem/apps. I really like the idea that eyes hit an application before it is placed on the App Store. I don't look at this process as foolproof, but I sure like the idea that someone has given the app (at a minimum) a once over before it is throw out for people to download.
Both browsers are fast and fine. Safari has typically done a better job rendering websites.
Siri is not your typical computer speech program. A value add for many people, it has been for me, but certainly not something I use when people are around. It is a time saver when scheduling appointments, reminders, ask factual questions, or want to search the web quick.
You may say iphone is boring, and I know what you are referring to, but eye candy does nothing for me. I want something that is efficient to use above all.
All this said, Samsung Nexus is a fine phone, simply not the best fit for everyone, it wasn't for me.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:10 1

44. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


My mistake, sorry. Still, I'd like to have an option to expand my memory using cards whenever I want to.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:16 5

46. doubler86 (Posts: 319; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)


It's funny that Ray from phonearena has been the one to do all of these reviews for the Nexus. Everyone I've shown these comparisons and reviews to have said jeez you can definitely tell he likes the iphone better. I do realize however that the Galaxy Nexus is only in the US so ya he had to do it.

In the comparison they might not be able to say it but just look at the ratings from phonearena in general. 9.5 for the Galaxy Nexus and 8.5 for the iPhone 4S. Now if you do know math you can say one is better than the other. WINNING!!! lol

Seriously though I hope they do another video comparison when the LTE model comes out.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:21 2

47. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I live in a household where Apple and Google live in peace and harmony and tranquility....lol

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:24 4

49. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


That is impossible in this timeline and this universe, sir.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:23 2

48. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


In area where is no LTE it's useless function.

"Better photo and video camera - seriously, if it is better, it is not by much"
What do you mean? Even blindman could see that IP4 makes much better photos (nexus does the job but only with "fully optimum sunshine" I guess) and videos quality...nexus doesn't have a snowball chances.

Battery. Don't know. For me, android is hungry pig. Don't know how IOS5 behaves. There were some battery problems, but android has it too.

Screen size is individual matter. I'm happy with my 3,5 inch display (N8) and I don't need more. So 4,65 inch display is not for me.

It does matter. There is nothing worse than flagship looking like crap. You have RAZR? And you're telling that premium feel is not important? Come on. Razr looks hot, great, etc so it was probably one of most relevant factors for you.
It's not about jingling and blinking your phone in front of your friendss eyes, but I want my phone to look good and be pretty solid (not only me I assume).

System is stable. Depends on what do you with it and how customized it is.

Quality, not quantity. I've never considered quantity of apps as a dealbreaker. I have everything on Symbian so I'm pretty sure android and ios has the same.

Games - I don;t play so I don't care about this factor.

System integration. Maybe it is about Itunes.

Both browsers are fast (well, probably faster than my native Symbian browser:D)

Siri...never used and I think I won't need that in the near future.

If you like to change your phone, that's fine.
But someone who likes stability and doesn't like changes...well, phone must work, that's it. Apple did much to make IOS look good.d

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:25

50. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Phonearean should stop scoreing phones -- to much controversy with their scores.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:26 4

51. cristhiansaid (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Jun 2010)


"The iPhone has been the undisputed kind of mobile browsing ever since its launch due to its incredibly well-performing Safari browser. Android's browser, on the other hand,"""HAS NEVER BEEN"" as smooth or accurate in its operation.

you are very wrong.. i have used a iphone 4 for five months, then i changed for htc inspire and now i have The samsung galaxy s 2. and let me tell u . something.
my experience with android browser is much more good than safary. because android browser is like a desktop experience. smooth, easy, flash player, etc...

sooo.. come on... Iphone arena..

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:26

52. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


*"...on Symbian so I'm pretty sure android and ios have the same". Sorry. small gramma mistake.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 13:49 3

58. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


Iphonearena does it again

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:03 2

64. HTCOE (Posts: 509; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)


The galaxy nexus blows the iPhone 4 apart as a whole the only disappointment I have is the 5 mp is a bummer but ill deal with it until the release of the galaxy nexus s version

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:21 4

67. Ivan6479 (Posts: 244; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


My goodness Ray is by far the worst reviewer ever!!! I mean seriously man get off of the iPhones nuts man. Every review you do always leans towards the iPhone, which I'm surer you probably own. It was a good device once upon a time, but that time has come and gone. Anyhow, who wants a damn phone that you could have possibly burn your house down while your a sleep?

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:43 2

68. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


To vette and jack:

I go by actual usage - a review is one thing - but, when I get the phone in my hands and what I experience goes against the review, then I believe with my own eyes.

In area where is no LTE it's useless function. - In my area it is not - so to each his/her own.

"Better photo and video camera - seriously, if it is better, it is not by much"
What do you mean? Even blindman could see that IP4 makes much better photos (nexus does the job but only with "fully optimum sunshine" I guess) and videos quality...nexus doesn't have a snowball chances.
Remains to be seen - let us see about camera quality when someone gets the Verizon version. The RAZR supposedly was ok on camera quality and yet when I compare it with the wife's iphone 4S, it is very close.

Battery. Don't know. For me, android is hungry pig. Don't know how IOS5 behaves. There were some battery problems, but android has it too. - Since, I have switched to GB, battery is just fine - someone says so what? Well, that is all I go by - actual experience. ICS is even better from what I am told.

Screen size is individual matter. I'm happy with my 3,5 inch display (N8) and I don't need more. So 4,65 inch display is not for me.

It does matter. There is nothing worse than flagship looking like crap. You have RAZR? And you're telling that premium feel is not important? Come on. Razr looks hot, great, etc so it was probably one of most relevant factors for you.
It's not about jingling and blinking your phone in front of your friendss eyes, but I want my phone to look good and be pretty solid (not only me I assume). -
I will admit that the RAZR looks awesome, but it is not the defining factor on how I purchase.

System is stable. Depends on what do you with it and how customized it is. - AGREED

Quality, not quantity. I've never considered quantity of apps as a dealbreaker. I have everything on Symbian so I'm pretty sure android and ios has the same. - AGREED

Games - I don;t play so I don't care about this factor. - GAMES are nice, but not an important factor, unless you ask my boys.

System integration. Maybe it is about Itunes. - I do not care for itunes. Seen too many issues experienced by the wife - You should be tied down to one program, for it failes, you are screwed.

Both browsers are fast (well, probably faster than my native Symbian browser:D) - AGREED.

Siri...never used and I think I won't need that in the near future. - could be useful to read my SMS while driving, but I have something close that does read me my SMS and emails while driving.

If you like to change your phone, that's fine.
But someone who likes stability and doesn't like changes...well, phone must work, that's it. Apple did much to make IOS look good. - Hmm, stability? Yeah, that is a joke. My wife upgrades her iphone 3GS to iOS 5.0, and stability goes out the door. She is happy with her 4GS as that phone is stabile, until the next upgrade.
Gingerbread brought stability to ANDROID. SGN wins!

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:44 1

69. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


To each their own - ANDROID brings choice to the consumer - APPLE brings, well, more money to APPLE, and less choice on what you can do with your phone.
I like Android and the wife prefers APPLE - the kids just want to play the games - so everyone is happy in my household.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 16:49 2

70. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


IPhone is the undisputed king of mobile browsers thanks to safari, huh? With lack of flash which is commonly used?
While safari doesn't use flash. Apple is against flash
For example Nokia got con because of flash lite. So what would be given to an Iphone when it doesn't have even flash lite??

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 18:01 2

78. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


For now, eventually HTML5 will take over.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 17:02 1

71. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


I don't know if mentioned above average joe needs so much customization or choice.
Most people want working phone, simply ui, great features.
Out of the box, must work.
Well, you see. Stability is another strange factor. One has it, another has not.
I have a Symbian which is not popular here and is behind android (high end droids...not hose from mid or low end...for example slowly crappy wildfire) and IOS in terms of smoothnes but I customized it and it works almost perfect (for me).
With belle it will be even better but sometimes it can go crazy (mostly when I do something wrong or I want too much from it).

I've never defend Iphone when it comes to photos. Always were ugly.
But this time apple did really good and I think much better than nexus.
Not everybody needs a good camera. I do for example so it's a shame that they didn't put camera unit from S II for example. It's simply better (especially videos).

RAZR looks is not the defining factor? So tell me. Why didn't you buy S II?
It has better camera, better cpu and few more things.
RAZR looks better, but has weaker cpu. Screens? It depends.
Most people would pick up RAZR because of it looks (no matter it's a little bit weaker in benchmarks). RAZR is a looker and it's one of his main selling points. That's why Motorola made it this way.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 17:55 1

77. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Out of the box any high end android will work out of the box. Stability? All Android high-end phones 2.3.4 and up, have that. I have a DROID RAZR - really smooth, no noticeable lag.

Customization will always be in ANDROID's corner. Widgets can be placed anyway, as well as folders and apps. Not so much with iphone.

I purchased the RAZR, because it was the best phone Verizon offered. Wife switched to Verixon and SGN was not out yet - tough choice for me choosing between RAZR and SGN. If I was with AT&T, then it would be SGS2 or SGS2S, another tough choice.

The RAZR is much more than a looker, but, yeah, I see your point on that - its CPU is just fine according to ANTUTU benchmark. Its processor is not snapdragon (another plus, unless I am wrong on that.)

Again, I have seen the iphone 4S up close, in my household - it is a boring, small phone. APPLE is slow to change, and I feel sorry for those who upgraded from the 4, and received very little in return. Now, going from a 3GS, it is an excellent improvement.

Look at the ratings, and that tells you right there - SGN is better - end of discussion. Let us move on to something more productive.

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 08:37 4

88. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Remember pal. I don't like Iphone:)

It may be better(nexus) in benchmarks but there are a lot of people who still prefer 4 or 4S to droid.
Are they blind? Or ishe%^?
Partially, maybe.
But my firend has IP4 and I would never say he's stupid, blind, fanboy or anything like this.
He bought it because he wanted to try what it's like to have this magically iphone. He did it a year ago and still has it.
Why?
It's simple, plenty of apps, works fine, he also likes when he sees that his new device looks adequately to his price.
Yes, how does device look like is one of the most vital factors.
It's not most important but it counts.
It's fragile but he doesn't care about it too much.
Remember that not everybody needs customization.
For example Symbian has themes from the very beginning. Android has it? I don't know, really. But I wonder. And I doubt it has.
Anyway if it doesn't have it's not vital for android users.
or they don't know what is it.
You say android is stable, other say it's not. Depends on model, customization, android version, etc.
Like it or not ios is very consistent eco system. The same goes to windows 7. That's why there is no so many problems with compatibility or defragmentation.
I wonder how IPhone would look like if other manufacturers had access to IOS.
Pure specs sheet is not everything, but you're right.
This discussion leads to nowhere because it's all about individual preferences.

Sorry for any mistakes. English is my 3rd language. Learning is still in progress:)

posted on 03 Dec 2011, 21:19

97. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


No prob, J, I actually enjoyed the discussion. Impressive, English as your 3rd language?

The secret to spelling correctly, is Google Chrome. :-)

posted on 08 Dec 2011, 23:57

127. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)


Well, I disagree with your very first point. I went to a local T-Mobile store and the clerk has two personal phones, the Samsung Galaxy S II and the HTC Radar. He mentioned that his Android often lagged and freezed up while his Radar didn't. Android is a great OS, but evidently there is no clear winner. If given a choice between the two phones (Galaxy Nexus and iPhone 4S), I'd probably choose the Nexus; it has more appeal to me and the OS looks really nice, especially in comparison to previous Android versions. But I must ask, if it is the case of the Nexus being better, of what personal benefit is it that to you? The term "best" is a relative term. Someone could call an old rugged non-touchscreen phone the "best" phone ever. So, the conclusion is true, personal preference. While Android is evidently best for you, IOS isn't. They're just phones, no need to argue over it.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 17:23 1

75. dieztrict (Posts: 4; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Mostly iphone user satisfied with 3.5 inch display because it's fit them well - they even say don't need more. But i'm still wondering what if the iphone designed with 4.3 inch... are they still satisfied?

posted on 10 Jan 2012, 01:05 1

147. scottz (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)


As an iphone user... that is a very good question. I think Apple stays with the smaller screen to keep it a one-handed phone. Going larger could make it a two hand phone for most people. Most people can fully use the current phone with one hand.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 17:37 2

76. denney (Posts: 98; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


"the iPhone is better way than the nexus as xxxx. the nexus sucks at xxxx"

or

"the nexus is better than the iPhone at yyyy. but the iPhone does yyyy just as good"

=

Literally every section of the article.

posted on 07 Dec 2011, 10:44 1

112. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)


Lol...true

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 19:15 2

80. kidtronic (Posts: 13; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


I hate to sound like a fanboy (I only own Macs), but whenever build quality of the iPhone is addressed, durability needs to be discussed. It's not really something you can just brush over when I see more phones with spider web cracks on the back than phones that don't. Glass, however premium it may feel, is a terrible material to have on smartphone. It's slippery and it shatters quite easily. It looks great, but that can not be the only deciding factor.

Also, I couldn't help but notice the fact that the Galaxy Nexus scored consistently higher on browser benchmarks and loaded sites faster on wifi comparisons. Coupled with the faster data speeds, I really don't see how the iPhone could possibly take that category. To the contrary, the Galaxy Nexus seems to take that one handedly.

Aside from those two inequities, I'd say this review was a decent review.

posted on 02 Dec 2011, 21:58 1

81. Lavi55 (Posts: 4; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)


The russian doesn't like the anything else than iPhone.
@iPhoneArena do you have an impartial reviewer?

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