Samsung Galaxy Nexus Review

88. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:30 1 0

dont get me wrong, i have no issue with TW partially for the very reason you just mentioned. I just happen to like the stock look of ICS more than any other reason. :)

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34. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:08 4 1

makes ya wonder huh. SGS2 has even stronger hardware and a class leading camera. If they both had ICS, would that force them to give the SGS2 a 10? It cant possibly get the same score or worse since it would fix the few issues with the nexus.

The first perfect 10 phone.. hmmmmmmmmmmmm. :)

Makes me mad. had tmo released the real SGS2 with exynos and not crapdragon, i'd already have one (and be porting ICS as we speak) instead of waiting for the "next" thing.. lol

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39. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:19 2 0

Think it'll be a full year between US SGS2s and SGS3s? Given the current momentum of the Galaxy line, they might be better off taking the Droid tack (replacements every 6-9 months).

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46. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:28 3 0

man I wish, roldefol. If the rumors of the SGS3 quadcore turn out to be true (and why wouldnt they be), then its going to be a while as the exynos quad isnt scheduled to start sampling till Q2/Q3.. then they have to release it in korea and the rest of the world while we americans get to salivate for months waiting for our carriers to quit acting like jerks and allow the release of the phone here..

Seeing what they are doing with the SGS2, nexus prime, and Note, I cant wait to see what their next flagship actually brings to the table.

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49. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:34 3 0

Exynos 4212 + HD Super AMOLED Plus + ICS + LTE = WIN

But PA would still dock it a half point for being plasticky.

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52. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:37 2 0

That, hopefully we will see soon since thats a dual core 4212 is supposed to be dropping in Q1. Im trying to hold out for at least that, if not for the quad core SGS3. :) :) :)
Ill still take hspa+42mb/s over LTE just for the battery savings (and wallet savings by not being on VZW/ATT), but thats just my preference.

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53. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:43 4 0

I don't see quad-cores sweeping the industry until late 2012. The S4 Snapdragon, Exynos 4212 and OMAP 4470 and even OMAP 5 are all dual (although TI could market the dual-core/dual-GPU OMAP5 as "quad"). I'd rather see chips with native LTE and power efficiency than quad-cores, but that's just me.

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56. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:47 2 0

i dont know if i can hold out that long.. lol. i want the SGS3 NOW. :) if i throw a big enough tantrum, do ya think it could happen? :)

Ill probably hop on the first Exynos (hopefully 4212) enabled galaxy variant that gets on Tmobile. Hopefully it caries a similar set up as the nexus (720p screen n such) but with the 4212 and a better camera. I could be happy with that for quite a while.

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93. sgogeta4 posted on 28 Nov 2011, 14:02 2 2

The camera on the SGS2 is good but the Nokia phones blow away the rest with their cameras.

102. bucky posted on 28 Nov 2011, 15:29 2 2

Owning a nokia is too much of a compromise for just the camera...

25. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 10:52 3 1

honestly, its probably similar, but the Ip4's HDR setting will help it in certain situations. Neither have a great low-light performance though.
I keep wondering why more phones dont come with a low light setting like my flashless SGS1 does. Except in the lowest of settings (like at a dark bar), it works quite well as long as the subject of the shot isnt moving.. lol.

If your worried about camera performance then its best to either hold off until the next ICS phone comes out (as it will more than likely be 8mpx) or get an SGS2 and wait for the ICS upgrade. For some odd reason stock google cameras have never been all that great. They are getting better, but they dont compare to what Sammy and HTC do with the camera for their own devices.

27. bucky posted on 28 Nov 2011, 10:54 3 2

i believe the motorola atrix scored that as well.

32. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:06 3 1

i am so waiting by your front doorstep to umm. "borrow" that from you. :)

37. Alantef posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:11 2 0

lol i bet....when i see its "out for delivery" i'm calling off work...

47. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:30 1 0

Should just have it delivered to work. Unless you have phone geeks running your receiving dept...

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57. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:47 3 0

now, im going to need your home n work address just to be sure.. that its safe... :)

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54. Ivan6479 posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:44 1 1

Ouch!! No offense, but it's kind of silly blowing $700 on a phone that will basically be obsolete in about a year when the quad cores start rolling out. I made the same mistake when I paid close to that much when the Nokia N97 came out a few years back and it just isn't worth it. I must say though I am pretty happy with my SGS2, which only ran me $200 on opening day. :)

72. Alantef posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:32 5 0

no contract coming from mytouch 4G only paying $50 for unlimited everything cant beat that....BIG upgrade

94. derfinsterling posted on 28 Nov 2011, 14:08 1 0

If you follow through with that argument, it's also silly blowing $700 for a quad core next year, because there's going to be an even better handset out there probably within a few months afterwards anyway.

The speed with which technology moves these days... you're lucky if you don't pick up a state of the art gadget at the store, pay at the counter for a pretty decent device that's obsolete once the door closes behind you when you're back on the street. ;-)

125. RageQuit posted on 28 Nov 2011, 22:14 0 0

You missed his point. he doesnt se the point in buying a phone unsubsidized so cose to when quad cores will become popular. if you where to get one of the first quad cores you probably wont notice the difference between it and a quad core 6months later, it will take about a year before it all becomes noticably more advences.

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40. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:19 5 0

lol. many people here think that anyone who disagrees with their love of a particular device even in the slightest ... must be a fanboy of the opposite side!! lol.

The site over all is much more even handed than it used to be when it used to earn the iphonearena moniker quite often... though nothing is ever perfect.

43. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 11:23 4 0

Judged on specs, user experience, build quality, etc. I'd say PA's ratings of the last few major releases (Nexus - 9.5, Razr - 9, Rezound - 8.5, 4S - 8.5) have been spot on. No, there's no Jesus phone yet, but we have many great options.

86. rayjones09 posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:25 1 3

I must ask, how many "itrolls" have u encountered in this in this article? Or on this website period. I visit this site multiple times a day and only have seen about 3 in comparison to the numerous amounts of Android fans here. Every tech website I go to always complains about the supposed loads of iPhone fans when in all actuality, the iPhone fans usually don't visit tech websites. The majority of the fans are Android fans, often times attacking the iPhone or speaking of it in a negative fashion. As a matter of fact, the first comment in this article speaks of this phone supposedly killing the iPhone.. So if anything, the relatively few iPhone fans should be complaining of the Android ones. By no means am I an iPhone fan; I prefer Windows in almost all manners. However, I do respect what it has done and it is indeed a benchmark or standard for phones of this day.

89. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:35 3 0

there are actually quite a few people that are universally called "itrolls" on the site. there are 3-4 that post all the time (taco, gallito, miz and gemini though he posts less).. which are generally those 3-4 auto thumbs down i get on most posts. There are quite a bit of apple fans on the site, dont let their quietness in an android review article fool you. Most are not trolls however and some are quite intelligent like vette and a few others. Every side has its "trolls" though, so its not just an iphone thing.. they just happen to have the worst of the worst on the site.
Stick around, you will see. It's kind of entertaining. Especially since those mentioned seem to make it a personal vendetta of sorts with me for some odd reason, even though i compliment and question everything of note from every camp.

121. rayjones09 posted on 28 Nov 2011, 20:35 0 0

Thanks for respectfully disagreeing with me yet not flaming me. While I disagree with your point as well, I don't intend to flame. However, I've been frequently visiting Phonearena for the past year and I always look forward to their reviews. They're my favorite. Yet, as many times as I frequently visit many tech websites, the iPhone fans are quite minute and quiet in comparison to Android fans. I even see more Windows fans on these sites. Yet, I suppose we shall respectfully agree to disagree. Thanks.

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122. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 21:19 1 0

oh, no reason to flame. you asked an honest question and got an honest answer. just regular conversation. it does happen every now and then. :)

there is no doubt that there is more actively participating android people on the site right now. but like i said, many of the iOS people stop commenting because of the hostilities that were brought on by the constant flame wars. They are still here, they are just a lil more quiet. When the itrolls stay away for a while, they come back n talk.
Also, you have to look at the world. 50% of the smartphone market is android now, compared to 20% or so for iOS. It would make sense that there were twice as many android people, would it not?

Dont worry, you are not alone on the site for liking iOS. your just a vocal part of the "silent majority" of iOS viewers that dont act like complete itrolls.
Every time they have a poll and thousands of people click on whatever the "iOS" choice is, its a nice reminder that there are still many iOS people out there. If we could calm down some of the noise created by the itrolls, i bet we could hear them a lot better. And no, its not just the itrolls, it is on both sides, but the majority comes from them at this point. And thats sad considering, like you said, there are more android people posting than iOS.

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62. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:15 1 0

Unfortunately for those with smaller hands, there aren't many options in the Android high end. Your best bet would be something like the HTC Rhyme or EVO Design that have a decent amount of memory and run Gingerbread/Sense 3.x, and will eventually get ICS, but those are single-core, mid-range phones.

65. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:20 1 0

with exception to the LG thunder, all the top android phones are 4+ inches and top of the line. Thats where the bulk of the users want to be. With thinning bezels and getting away from buttons though, the over all size of the phones are starting to shrink down.

75. vette21man posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:39 0 0

Agree with you remixfa.....except for "getting away from buttons though, the over all size of the phones are starting to shrink down"

Not sure how the absence of buttons shrinks the device. All it does is shrink the usable screen space. I bet it's pretty sweet viewing videos on the 4.65" screen, but most other tasks need those buttons visible to allow getting back to home in a single tap. And those visible buttons at the bottom take up just as much room as the permanent capacitive buttons did.

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78. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:46 1 0

because with buttons you have the screen, screen bezel, and buttons taking up space. taking out the buttons takes away last bit of space.. then its just the screen n buttons.

Its not as obvious on the nexus, but samsung has promised that the next generation of SA+ screens are going to be nearly bezel free because they have improved it so much. If that materializes then we could possibly see the end to the big chin and forehead that most phones have.

If phones didnt have buttons and could lose that chin and forhead a bit, you could see an over all reduction in size of the phone while the screens stay the same or even get a little bigger. The iphone could be over 4 inches in screen if it got rid of its chin. A 5 inch screened phone would be no bigger than the 4-4.3 inch screened phone we have now.

So if you look into "the future", button free is the way to be. (though it i still think it could be a drawback for some as I'm prone to hitting the wrong thing on screen.. lol)

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81. vette21man posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:55 0 0

Your last point makes me wonder if "bezell-less" is the way to be. I know many Android users that say they constantly hit their capacitive buttons by accident. I actually prefer the tactile buttons on the DROID Charge vs all capacitive buttons. For the main functions it's nice to not have to look at the button to verify you hit it (home, menu, back).

No bezel seems better for overall size, but may introduce other human factor issues (accidental presses).

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84. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:03 3 0

im back and forth on that as well. like i said, im a bit clumsy.. lol I guess like with anything it will take some getting used to. I used to think I'd never get away from a keyboard and thanks to swype ive been happy without one (for the most part). But that's the future we are moving towards, so time to start getting used to it. :)

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85. vette21man posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:17 3 0

remixfa, agreed with your keyboard comment, but the difference is that the keyboards have pretty good error correction, and if that fails, then you have the delete key, and if that fails, then you suck.

When trying to hit the back button and instead hitting the home button, there is no error correction. I'm either an expert in hitting back, or a frustrated user in hitting home.

But you are correct..........we have to move with the times!! Just hoping that all human factors aren't getting a backseat to the beautiful designs.

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90. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:37 0 0

maybe thats why they went with 3 buttons instead of 4 on the ICS.. to spread em out a bit and reduce errors.
gonna miss my search/voice actions button though. .lol

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82. roldefol posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:55 2 1

I think it's kind of a wash between the button-free Nexus and any of the newer phones (Rezound, Razr, etc). Minus the 0.3" reserved for the on-screen buttons, the Nexus would be a 4.4" screen. Had they stretched it end to end, the Nexus would be just as compact as the Rezound, but they had to reserve space at the ends for microphone, antennae and speakers, so the Nexus is quite tall.

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92. remixfa posted on 28 Nov 2011, 13:50 0 0

lol, it does. i did a double take, i didnt thing the G-nexus was that much bigger. :)

71. vette21man posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:31 3 0

Gee whiz....put your panties back on. They'll release the video soon enough.

Until then, exercise your reading abilities and RTFA, it's a good one.

77. vette21man posted on 28 Nov 2011, 12:44 2 0

Hold Ctrl key and scroll up/down to get it true-to-life size. :-)

127. biophone posted on 29 Nov 2011, 00:25 0 0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBduNcf1eQc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Agreed