Samsung ATIV Q Review
0. phoneArena 16 Jul 2013, 06:36 posted on
Samsung blew the roof when it unveiled the ATIV Q, and not only with the record screen resolution of this convertible tablet/ultrabook device, but other novel ideas that beg to be approached with open mind, as there's barely a reference point for something like it. Has Samsung managed to give us a glimpse at the future of portable devices for work and play, or will the ATIV Q feel like it is way ahead of its time due to “details” like hinge construction, software scalability for such resolution, or simply overpricing? Read on to find out...
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1. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)
"Phone"arena is the first site to review this PC.
8. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
That's barely more than a preview. No professional testing done - not even Android benchmarks, let's face it, everybody on PhoneArena clicked on the article for that - no proper battery rundown, no proper screen saturation and brightness measuring, temperatures, charging time, touch, pen response, laptop type tests. This can't even be a retail product since Windows 8.1 is not out for many weeks.
It's not a review, it's a preview. I mean surely, we all wanted to know a little more of device.
9. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)
Only site to know all the things mentioned will be anandtech.com
Not even verge, engadget and other sites will do those things. Even if they will be baised against Windows.
10. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The other Bulgarian "Arena" does satisfactory testing for mobile devices, so do many other sites. I'm not complaining or anything, just saying this would be called preview elsewhere, and our curiosity regarding performance and battery life remains unfed.
11. vincelongman (Posts: 2412; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
NotebookCheck and Anandtech are my favorite sites for reviews. They are the most detailed and technical by far.
28. LizGreenwood (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Jul 2013)
What's really troubling is each site I've seen this lists this with only 4GB of RAM. What was Samsung thinking offering this with so little RAM. My cheap netbook that ccost 1/3 the price of this had that much RAM. I am s student and multitask a lot and I would never pay over $1,200 for a laptop with only 4Gb of RAM.
Samsung needs to offer an option to buy the Q with 8GB of RAM.
34. d_myke (Posts: 14; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
But its not a laptop. It's basically a super tablet that can easily function as a laptop. 8gb of RAM on a tablet is nonsense imo, and would just make it run hotter. Get the Ativ 9.
41. AdamLeonard (Posts: 45; Member since: 24 Aug 2011)
Actually, Tom's Hardware guide found that more memory greatly reduces writing to the hard drive which can both increase performance AND (more importantly) increase the life of an SSD. Their finding is you can never have too much RAM if you have an SSD.
16. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4566; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Ok I read the whole article & this Ultra Book/Tablet is something that I REALLY want.
Any word on the price? I really don't care because I am getting this beast but it would be nice to know.....
17. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4566; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Maybe $1500.00 or so?!?
TOTALLY WORTH IT. SO BAD A$$. You have the BEST of an Ultra Book, & the BEST from Android @ 4.2.2 to 4.3 STOCK so quick updates. NO Samsung Touch Wiz & add a S-Pen also.
256GB of SSD with the BEST screen available... WOW what a WIN!!!
All that for about $1500.00 is alright with me. It won't replace my Desk Top PC BUT as a travel companion you can't have anything better than this!!!
What an EPIC machine!!!! I WANT THIS YESTERDAY!!!!! lol
25. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4566; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
What a horrible video review. Why not show the Samsung ATIV Q running Android? I wanted to see how it switches from Windows 8.1 to Android 4.2.2.
How can PhoneArena.com post this video? VERY, VERY incomplete.
29. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Exactly lol I'm watching the review thinking when are they going to show the android side and how the 2 co exist but other than just mentioning android they showed nothing of it..this isnt a review , its bairly a preview lol. Seriously how did they think this is a review when they pretty much left one os out..its like they forget this has both android and wp
27. LizGreenwood (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Jul 2013)
I want to buy this but not if it ships with only 4GB of RAM. I can't believe they are about to start selling a ~$1500 convertible with only 4GB of RAM with no option to get this with at least 8GB of RAM. I was thinking about buying a Thinkpad Helix or Duo 13, both which can be ordered with 8GB of RAM, when this came out but I will not buy this if it only ships with 4GB of RAM. Most business users and students who multitask heavily will need more RAM and it is absurd they are selling this with only 4GB of RAM.
Who is Samsung selling this for with only 4GB of RAM? People who have to much money and no sense about what they are buying. With 8Gb of RAM the Ativ Q would be the perfect laptop/tablet for me but otherwise I'm going to get a well configured Helic or Duo 13.
3. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)
Resolution scaling is coming with Windows 8.1
You should have mentioned it instead of just putting it in Cons.
4. nlbates66 (Posts: 317; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
not a bad ultrabook at all, kudos to Samsung, I can't say I'd use it as a tablet though, 10-11" is the limit for that I think(for me anyway), also, first thing to do after getting something like this - remove that android switcheroo rubbish!
20. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4566; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Get a clue...
You have the WONDERS of a Windows PC with the magic of Android 4.2.2 out of the box. You can have your FUN with Android & actually get some work done with Windows.
What a win, win. This will sell very well because of that very awesome & unique feature.
Why remove one of it's STAND OUT features. It's like getting a BMW with a TOYOTA Engine instead of the BMW engine. lol
22. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Exactly. You have the Play Store AND all the productive programs on Windows at your fingertips, all on that beautiful display, it's genius!
5. AdamLeonard (Posts: 45; Member since: 24 Aug 2011)
On the 2nd page you talk about adding more memory. Did you really mean memory (i.e. RAM) or did you mean storage? I've not seen anything that suggests that you could go to 6 or 8GB of RAM on this thing and I really need the extra storage for a giant DB I work in all day.
12. nlbates66 (Posts: 317; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
they'd mean storage, as in sdcards via the slot.
13. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
That's one point I don't like about this beast, 4gigs in a device that could have a shock price of $2000. Also, plugging in an external hi-res 2nd screen could be an issue with the limited GPU. I guess this would make perfect sense around $1000, but it will come at a much, much higher price very unfortunately.
6. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
I want it so bad, but OH MY GOD it has a ridiculous price tag.
7. tiara6918 (Posts: 1908; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Then go get an ativ tab(a bit cheaper). My dad has one and I really enjoyed using it except for the market place
15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
The price really makes it a niche device. It offers so much, and the price reflects it. S Pen support, the highest resolution display on any tablet or laptop, 4th gen Intel processor, dual boot of Android and Windows 8, all in a very sleek form factor.
18. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
But it's not the most well-rounded spec sheet. Okay, if not a gaming GPU, then it still could've included the HD5000 integrated chip for better performance/power factor. I'm a bit skeptical of this handling such a great resolution AND a secondary screen. But I fully expect Sammy to upgrade it to HD5000 and to 8GB RAM before the year's out.
14. nicholassss (Posts: 361; Member since: 10 May 2012)
I'm impressed hardware-wise. so far. Something like this as a chromebook/android dohicky would be ballin.
19. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
They have to give you an option for an i7. This thing is screaming high end but the processor is screaming mid end. And bump up the ram to 6-8 GB
21. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 407; Member since: 24 May 2011)
Even with that price. This has to be, without doubt, the best tablet Computer ever...!!
23. livyatan (Posts: 849; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Samsung simply wiped the floor with every other mainstream manufacturer here.
A league of its own product that will unfortunately fail because of the price that only Apple or Alienware or Razer badge can get away with.
24. livyatan (Posts: 849; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
..and the name is horrendous.
Samsung should've called the Samsung Ultimate series or something like that.
26. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
So what's the deal with the no-show of Android features? Samsung didn't allow it, Google maybe cause it's on 4.3? Or is it simply just not ready?
30. twospirits (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
I agree 4GB is not enough for this beast of a machine. As for the price, I do believe one US site has it listed as $1399.
31. esperanza (Posts: 47; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)
wow So fast. thanks a lot for this review. I've been looking for this. looks much better than Sony vaio duo 13 imo. The S-pen with docking slot allowing for 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity is awesome. Samsung bring it on with 8G ram and keyboard backlit.
32. wynand32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
My biggest question is: what resolution does Android run at? The full 3200X1800?
33. Daniel.P (Posts: 102; Member since: 14 Jul 2011)
It runs at 1920x1016 (not including the navigation bar)...
40. wynand32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
Oh, that's a HUGE bummer. At 13.3", that's only 165 PPI. One of the biggest attractions for me was having a high-res 13.3" Android device. The Ativ Q is becoming less and less attractive to me.
42. Daniel.P (Posts: 102; Member since: 14 Jul 2011)
No worries, it can go up to 3200x1800 when the desktop is in that mode, as you can see from the properties tab of the last screenshots of the Android interface. It's just that by default the display res is Full HD, so in Android mode it's the default one, too.
43. wynand32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
That's excellent news, thanks! I wonder: could you do a couple closeup pics of the screen in both resolutions? I think it would be fascinating to see. Maybe also run Antututu at 3200X1800.
Thanks again for the update!
44. wynand32 (Posts: 4; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
Also, I'm not seeing the screenshot that shows 3200X1800. Could you specify which one? Thanks!
35. twospirits (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
IMHO, any tablet bigger than 10-11 inches is really marketed to those other than the user tablet user that would use the device for the usual media consumption (videos, news, social media etc). Those folks would be fine with any other tablets on the market. This tablet (much like the Sony Duo that are bigger) would be for those that really want to multitask and have open numerous apps in Windows and Android. As you open more and more apps the system would most likely come to a crawl with only 4GB of ram. Granted, I do agree that it would get hotter with more ram and running alot of apps. It's a shame that the review didn't go further into depth on running numerous apps in both OS's.
36. gregzeng (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
Like every other PC or Mac-PC, it can also run many versions of Linux, such as Ubuntu or Kubuntu, These Linux operating systems can multi-boot from a flash-sick or flash-card, or from the onboard drive storage.
I expect it to be more powerful than Windows-7 on the same hardware, but with much less demand on the memory and storage spaces. Of course it will read-write to bothe the Android and the windows parts of the computer, like most Linux operating systems can.
37. twospirits (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
Although I can probably dismiss the fact that it only has 4GB of ram, I feel that regardless of gorilla glass, that it would get scratch since the display is always out in the open. The device is marketed as a tablet/laptop hybrid, but in reality, that is only half true. Unlike a laptop when you close the lid, the display is protected. This device won't be. I've heard that there will be a cover but I don't see how it would attached to it. I would have prefered that Samsung would have updated their current ATIV hybrids like the 500T and 700T instead of replacing them with this new form factor.
38. twospirits (Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
Too bad i can't edit and add to my previous comment. Anyway,..
Just noticed the review was updated a bit. I noticed that the article states more info on the ram.
Out of the 4GB ram 1.5 is for Android and 2.5 for Windows which the ratio is changeable with a slider.
Then out of the available space in the system, 16GB is for Android. Good to know.
39. Wiidesire (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
Is there are more detailed test upcoming?
If not I have some questions:
How is the brightness in the sun? Did you actually test it?
Some more detailed information about the battery please and how it performs.
And is 4GB Ram enough? And in what situations is it full? How far can I multitask? Android+ Windows running, how much does it take without any programs running?
45. BooBooooooo (Posts: 56; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)
i wonder how much it is smooth on its vertual os android
46. whosteeno (Posts: 1; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Anybody notice that when you type in samsung ativ q in google adorama camera has it listed for 1398.00. When you go to there website its not there??? Coming Soon i hope!!