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Nokia Lumia 920 vs Samsung Galaxy S III

0. phoneArena 03 Dec 2012, 07:21 posted on

Windows Phone 8 ushered Microsoft’s mobile OS in the era of dual-core phones and HD screens that Android and iOS have been inhabiting for a while, and Nokia Lumia 920 is the handset best suited to take on those other flagships. Naturally, we are going to compare it with Android’s most popular high-end, the Samsung Galaxy S III, which offers a quad- or dual-core processor, depending on the region, and a high-res AMOLED display, flaunting camera of the same resolution as the Lumia 920...

This is a discussion for a review. To read the whole review, click here

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 12:46

64. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Whatever.. I'll just give my thoughts on Symbian.
It is the OS that had by far the most potential and was a true open source.
Had Nokia continued to develop and stick onto it fully, it is my belief that now it would be the best OS of the bunch.
Now we would have a quad core, hd, 21mpix, app wealthy, true Nokia flagship that would give any Android a run for its money.
And Android wouldn't be nearly as market dominant as now, and Nokia would probably still be fighting for the top of the smartphone hill.

That's why I will always despise their decision to sell them selves to Microsoft (Microsoft paid billions to Nokia to go fully WP btw)and kill off their best, long built effort.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 16:54 3

109. Jillsandwich (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

What is it with Android fanboys? I remember a time when iOS fanboys wouldn't shut their mouths about how good the iPhone was. Now fandroids are popping up LEFT AND RIGHT to advocate for their OS. It's not even about talking about how good it is, either. It's about forcing their opinion down other people's throats like they're right and.. everyone else is wrong. You would THINK that an OS that promotes freedom and the option to choose would give them the insight of allowing people to do the same with their devices.

Evidently, it's not so with people like you. You get butthurt whenever an Android device isn't the outright winner. Someone could say "If you want that, go Android. If you want that, go WP/IOS." But you? No. It's "ANDROID AND NOTHING ELSE."

Get over yourself, moron.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 20:07

116. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

yeah mate, see this is what reasonable people say. sadly your going to be seen as the enemy on here as the fanboys have taken over. the levels of arrogance and superiority complex they have has gone overboard.

ive tried been as reasonble as i can but theres no getting through to them, if your comment is 100% praising android you will get painted red and they will gang up and slate everything non android even if no one else brought it up i.e.the iphone they love to bring that up every chance they get.

seriously your one of few reasonable people on here but they will label you hater or troll. ive been labeled so far:

google hater
android lover
android hater
apple hater
nokia fanboy

literally they have to label you to feel better. P.A iis been ruined for others not by the imaginery bias the android fanboys think exists by the reviewers but the bias from the android fanboys themsleves

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:38

120. Jillsandwich (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Yeah, it's pathetic. Funny how Android users have basically become the very thing they hate most about Apple. Sheep. And yeah, they're ALWAYS mentioning iPhone. It's like they have a permanent chip on their shoulders towards Apple or something! An inferiority complex? Weird, considering they think their phone is so much better!

And just to clarify (but I'm sure I'll be down thumbed but whatever), I was a long time Android user. It's a solid OS. Nothing wrong with it. But I went w WP because I felt it did everything I wanted it to with less fuss than Android. Ergo, I went Microsoft. Doesn't mean Android is any less great. Just means I like something else. And that's fine. WHY THE HELL do fandroids not understand that choice is a good thing when Android promotes it in the first place? So hypocritical!

Android ain't perfect. Neither is iOS or WP. Stop treating it like any of them are. And stop going into a different OS expecting the experience you'd get on another.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 11:16

58. Shubham412302 (Posts: 431; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)

well lumia has both types of multitasking...
depending upon app the dev. may choose weather his app must be paused or run in background
its mixture of ios and android

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 20:18

117. macsbac (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

No it doesn't. This is just wrong.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 11:54 1

62. Aeires (unregistered)

You do know the rest of the crowd has long moved on past the lag comments. Why don't you try and catch up, lag is dead on the new high end Android handsets.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 23:31

119. Jillsandwich (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

You failed when you said "high end" Android handsets. You know this, right? How many cores is Android at now? And RAM?

Yeah.. no.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 09:27 1

43. akishakoi (Posts: 65; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)

Finally, an honest and fair comparison. Keep it up PA!
Thinking back on how that woman from CNET gives her fist impressions on the Lumia 920 compared to this PA review makes her look dumber and senseless than the first time I watched her vid.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 09:35 2

45. kach22 (Posts: 153; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)

I find this review to be really impressive even though I am no fan of WP8.
WP8 is surely impressive and so is the Android Jelly Bean. I am not trolling but I really feel that iOS 6 haven't offered anything extraordinary compared to these. Now eagerly waiting to see what BlackBerry offers with BB10.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 09:38

46. mydi.maus (unregistered)

same good phones

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 09:39 5

47. lzsbleach (Posts: 155; Member since: 20 May 2012)

Android is the more advance OS but depending on what you need and like Windows OS can have an advantage over Android. The king (GS3) has finnaly been overthrown, no smart phone has clearly taking out the GS3 other than the 920. That is impressive that the GS3 has held the number 1 spot for so long. The 920 had more time to develop over the GS3 and the water down GS3 was up against the 920 which gave the 920 an edge. Samsung has some work to do on the GS4; they need to improve what they lack.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 10:28

50. shashi.map (Posts: 30; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)

Good comparision.......Both phones are excellent .......well done PA :)

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 10:28

51. SK_007 (Posts: 17; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)

@Phonearena team can you please give a comparison between One X+ and Lumia 920 coz i am torn between these two smartphones and the date when i pick one of these is very near and i don't want to regret my decision after choosing one of them.

On a side not why you guys have compared One X+ to Iphone 5 only(why not a comparison against Galaxy S3,Optimus G,Nexus 4 and Lumia 920 after all it is the current flagship of HTC).

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 10:33

53. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

well what do you use your phone for mainly?

are you a heavy user? also whats phones you had previously

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 10:47

55. SK_007 (Posts: 17; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)

Well not a heavy user but not a light user either you can say i am a moderate user,i currently have Sensation XE(before Sensation XE i had Galaxy S2,Xperia Arc).

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 10:53 2

57. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

ok so your familiar with android then, well the one x+ is a great all round phone but you wont be getting much new , not saying its a let down. the 920 would be a completely new experience for you if your looking for one again though if you enjoy lots of apps then right now you might be best with the one x+

if you want a great camera and ease of use the 920 is the one to go for.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 11:46

60. SK_007 (Posts: 17; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)

Yeah you are right and that's the problem i am familiar with Android infact i am addict to Android but at the same time i am a camera freak as well that's why i this decision for me is really tough and i cannot decide which one should i choose anyway thanks for your help!!!

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 19:08

93. macsbac (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

Get the nexus 4. Its better than both these devices for a fraction of the cost. The camera on lumia is overrated & I explain y in a post below. The lumia 920 is bulky & ugly that didn't bother me. What I hated was the corners.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 04:34

101. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

go always one who has to spread hate in an resonable conversation

the nexus 4 or the one x+...hmm the one x+ takes it. the nexus 4 is only good if your on a budget.

the fact your classing the 920 camera as overrated just shows how sore you are the nexus 4's camera is average and nothing to shout about. and the fact you hate the corners........that all you can come up with. well the nexus 4 is fragile thats much worse then corners lol

please hate elsewhere and stop ruining the resonable comments on here

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 20:56 1

118. macsbac (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

Bit hypocritical don't to think to accuse someone of spreading then then indulge in it yourself.

The thickness of 920 with 90 degree corners is just uncomfortable to hold especially I the palm of the hand. Its fair to describe this device as a tombstone & frankly I am surprised Nokia think they can get away with such an ergonomic disaster.

I have had a 4 year old playing with a nexus 4 for 2 weeks now and its been dropped and put through a ringer. Not very fragile at all, even then if I wanted a bumper it would still b more ergonomic than a lumia 920.

The lumia 920 camera has a lower aperture and is missing fantastic features such as continuous focus, HDR and even a basic burst mode. HDR allows better images in difficult contrast conditions where the lumia would need to use a flash.eg indoors but bright rooms with windows. The only type of conditions I could find that the lumia was better was dark scenes without motion. That's not the majority of mine or others photos.

A better processor, a better gpu and more, faster dual channel memory than the HTC X+ & the lumia 920. The hardware & software is just better on the nexus 4.

I have a lumia 920 & a nexus 4 & have as much right as you to comment. If you want a private forum or the ability to determine who can post then start your own instead of flaming an opinion u don't like.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 09:49

132. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

''I have had a 4 year old playing with a nexus 4 for 2 weeks now and its been dropped and put through a ringer. Not very fragile at all, even then if I wanted a bumper it would still b more ergonomic than a lumia 920.''

this shows your biased and spewing bs. the nexus 4 is a fragile device, glass mate isnt made to be sturdy so please dont try it. the lumia 920 is a solid device you like all the fanboys with a stick up there ass keep banging on about weight and size as you cant find anything else. your attempt to justify this falls flat.

also the nexus 4's camera is average, nothing to shout about. there are apps to add extra's to the camera so thats sorted.

ive had it with you fanboys holding the nexus 4 up as the end of phones, its an average device at a good price not fully optimnised and prone to purple flare.

i told the guy if he's used to android the one x+ is best for him then you have to slag of the 920 shamelessy and hold the n4 up as great. you ruined a reasonable comment

thansk for been irreleveant kid

posted on 08 Dec 2012, 16:40 1

140. macsbac (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

Yet again flaming. My nexus 4 has survived the 4 year test & at least 2 drops onto a hard surface. Just because it has a glass does not make it fragile. Just as the iPhone 4 & 4S r glass front & back. On fact the lumia 920 front is made from the same glass as the nexus 4 (gorilla glass 2) making it just as fragile.

Thankfully my original all opinion on the lumia camera has been shown to b true by the camera reviews on this site. OIS sounds good in theory but has too many compromises, mainly lower aperture meaning less light or slower shutter speeds meaning blur or over saturation. The only area this produces good results is low light & still shots. U claim the nexus 4 camera is average yet in daylight & indoor conditions it out to performs the lumia 920. So that by that logic the lumia camera.is below average.

Then there is the HTC one x+ u keep talking about. The tegra 3 processor is easily bested by the quad s4 with 320 GPU. However with the memory intensive HTC sense it can only keep 1 or 2 apps running in the background b4 suspending or stopping them. Especially when using games or other memory intensive apps such as chrome. 2gb of fast dual channel memory in the nexus 4 results in dozens of apps running before suspension. The software & hardware is just better on the n4. You want HTC, don't listen to this clown get the droid DNA

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:49

69. ReddD (Posts: 37; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

htc droid dna, quite a smartphone! go check it out

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 14:26

66. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)

Lumia all the way, baby! One must be pretty crazy to buy the Samsung thing. The man who made the comparison missed the biggest advantage of Nokia along with all the hardware stuff - it is the WP8. He should have said that WP uses twice less cpu and stll is faster than Android and many times more stable. If you are under 20 maybe you would like to change roms every day and restart respectively. I can't imagine a man with proper job to use an Android device unless he's a masochist.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:24

67. cew18 (Posts: 1; Member since: 03 Dec 2012)

It amazes me that all these so called experts do phone reviews or comment on reviews and the main thing they can complain about is the size of the phone. I bet that nearly all people who buy a iphone or galaxy will buy a case to put it in. Generally this said case will add weight and bulk to the phone and probably make it heavier and bulkier than the Lumia 920, which by the is designed not to need a case to protect it.

Doesn't really seem like rocket science to me but it seems to be the main and only reason why people wont choose the Lumia 920 generally.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 15:54 1

70. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

No, just no. The S3 with a plastic case is still much lighter, it's still slimmer and it's also more durable.
I just read the Gizmodo review, thinking that they must've praised it to heavens given that poll results.
Here's the review.


posted on 03 Dec 2012, 16:43

72. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

more durable, come on now, your just letting your fanboyism blind you on that one. even with a case the 920 will be more durable its nokia's specalty

you just keep banging on about its too heavy, isnt the note 2 pretty heavy aswell.....strage that doesnt come up much

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 16:35

71. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

I have the n900. It weighs 181grams. If that is heavy then I'm sorry. You shouldn't call yourself a man. Beetles lift more than that. This means than you're weaker than a bug!

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 17:53 1

73. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Ridiculous analogy.
There's a difference between heavy and cumbersome.
Once you try a sleek and light phone and get used to it, something significantly heavier and bulkier gets cumbersome.
It just feels old school.

Galaxy Note is huge and that is why it doesn't feel heavy, relative to size.
I've held it and it feels really well balanced and light actually.

Can you hold a 2kg laptop? Would you have problems with that?
Well and what if an ultrabook would be 2kg?
Yeah, it suddenly wouldn't fit in.
Being too heavy and cumbersome.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 18:07

74. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

You are biased and acting like weight doesn't matter, only because it's about your beloved gadget.

This phone is too heavy.. just like a netbook that weighs as much as a laptop would be too heavy.

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 18:14 2

75. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

lmao you saying others are biased is laughable

your the most biased kid on here, what he said was right if you find a 920 too heavy you need help, and the note 2 doesnt distribute the weight better infact its worse, the note 2 is big so the hand has to stretch and the weight adds pressure to your already straining hand

sure you will look the other way though on this

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 08:39

106. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

i own an m17x and a m18x and i'm in the process of ordering another come summer 2013...

people always ask how I manage with the weight of my laptops but after a while you really do not notice. dont get me wrong... alienware are heavy.

my n900 on the other hand is not. it is hefty but there is no problem... i'll get my lumia friday the 7th but just adding about two quarters unto my n900 i know it wont be a problem...

if your note has a case then it is already heavier than the lumia.

my gs3 is naked but then again it is being babied. as opposed to my n900 that is scratched, dented and dinged to all hell...

posted on 03 Dec 2012, 18:27 2

76. infernal88 (Posts: 113; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

said this every article ...the puremotion is an edge in refresh rate against other LCDs ...but the AMOLEDs already has a refresh rate @ 60
so they are equal ... the other thing is that SAMOLEDs has integrated touch layer be4 the new Iphone and LG screens ...they are just the first to come with LCD screen ...but been there all along with SAMOLEDs

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 02:58 1

83. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Just shows how reviewers lack the knowledge and fall for the propaganda tricks instead!
I just checked and actually the Xperia arc was the first LCD phone with integrated touch layer.
I had that phone and it really had the "printed on screen surface" look, unlike HTC sensation or LG optimus

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 10:12

133. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)

Its not about the refresh rate, its about the response time. You can have a 60hz refresh rate and still have motion blur because your response time isn't up to par. Nokia has all but eliminated that problem by increasing the response time to at least double that of the other phones.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 02:47 2

80. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Come on man are you serious? How can this guy just say the GS3 "feels more familiar". Would it kill you to say that the GS3 simply has a more pleasant OS with many great features that the windows phone is simply lacking? I understand Microsoft was shooting for something different and all, but lets be honest here, the OS just feels bland and lacks a certain panache that the GS3 and iPhone both have. Don't get me wrong I give them props for trying something different, but it's just not up to par with the other big contenders.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 02:51 1

82. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

I agree.
Hardware wise Nokia is really strong, but software loses.
It's that simple

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 16:57 2

110. Jillsandwich (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Except it doesn't. you need how many cores to have a fast OS again? You waited how many years until project butter came around so you can FINALLY say you have a smooth OS? How many times has Samsung shafted its users from OS updates? (Barring rooting and flashing your roms, but that's a loser argument).

Dude, Android isn't the be-all-end-all of OSes. It's a good OS, but it isn't for everyone.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 09:37 1

89. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)

That may be your opinion. But there are many of us out there that think Android is bland. While there may be a myriad of extra features to the GS3, that doesn't necessarily make it more pleasant.

Panache is a French word origin that carries the connotation of a flamboyant manner and reckless courage (ripped straight from Wikipedia). Sounds to me like this word better describes WP8 than any Android device. Does it lack some features that the GS3 has? Yes. But none that I need.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 09:41

90. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)

This doesn't mean I don't like the GS3, just that your comment lacks merit. Its opinion, not fact. WP8 is definitely up to par.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 01:30 1

97. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

You clearly didn't watch the video. Lol Also its very fair to say that the clunky fat Nokia has no panache what so ever. I hardly think that giving a device some decent specs and a colorful shell warrant the same type of status that the GS3 or the iPhone both have. I also find it quite amusing that you had to actually look the word up and on Wikipedia non the less. LOL

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 01:44 1

98. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

By the way I'm glad to see you learned something today with your little history lesson on where the word "Panache" originated, but in the 21st century, which is the current time we live in, just in case you didn't know (thought I'd fill you in so you don't have to go to Wikepedia again) the word can also refer to style or flair or something, which the Nokia phone is just lacking compared to the GS3 or the iPhone, which are the biggest contenders on the market right now.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 08:51

128. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)

lol. You are so close minded. I didn't look up panache to find out the definition, I simply used the definition to prove my point. I sell these phones on a daily basis. In my experience, to the uninitiated and unbiased customer, the Lumia turns alot more heads than the GS3 or the iPhone. I've lost count of how many people have come in wanting an GS3 (or iPhone) and ended up getting a Lumia 920.

As I said before, your comment lacks merit.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 18:59 3

92. macsbac (Posts: 6; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

Seriously the camera in the lumia is overrated. The gs3 beats it by some margin in daylight. OSI means u have a lower aperture as the sensor needs to b able to move within the lens. While OSI reduces blur from the camera moving it makes blur from moving objects in the scene worse. The osituation the lumia camera is better is in low light on scenes with no or little movement or strong light sources. I would also suspect the thickness of the device is due to the OSI apparatus. This camera is inferior not only to the gs3 but also the iPhone 5.

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 19:57 1

94. Poecifer (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

I see a lot of complaints about the lack of an ability to add a wallpaper. I must ask, how necessary is this? I mean with your widgets or my equally useful live tiles, what is going on with the staring at the background? My phone is a social device first, a media device second, and a browsing device third. It completely trumps the GS3 in all of these senses. I love casual gaming on my phone too and I can get XBL points for doing it. The browser is better unless you're visiting decade old porn sites that still use flash, the media player is smoother and more intuitive, and not even the latest version of Sense comes close to WP8's built in social aspects let alone stock or samsung's mod. Hardware wise, Lumia just embarrasses the competition though, nothing more needs to be said about that much.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 02:51 1

99. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

"Social device first"
Fine. If Facebook is your thing..

"Media device second "
Here, there is absolutely no comparison.
The S3 has a third party music and video player (of which many are amazing )support which is a huge advantage.
Its default player has virtually all codecs supported, and is packed with options Nokia never heard of.
Finally, it has significantly larger screen and better audio output

"Browsing device third "
This is even a bigger landslide win for the galaxy.
You have plenty of amazing third party browsers to pick from!
Nokia doesn't support flash, heck it doesn't even support text reflow!(seriously, please tell me how do you use browser without text reflow??)
And again, a bigger screen does make additional difference.

You get ridiculously larger amount of games on android, even more ridiculously larger free games choice.
You get emulators, you get option to use the Galaxy s3 as a true or handheld gaming console!

Nokia doesn't trump S3 at all.


..now correct the mistakes (S3 has USB mass storage and continuous auto focus, as well as a direct OTA updates ) and take away the false points for Nokia.. math speaks for itself.

So there.. you really are totally biased.

Live wallpapers are simply a joy to look at.
When you try something like Ocean HD and find your self just soothed and enchanted and relaxed just by looking at your home screen, you will start to treasure the options android gives you.
Besides, it WOULD make a world of difference even on WP!
If you doubt, I'll send you screenshots of what I did with windows phone launcher on my S3.
Please, I bet you will never look at WP the same way again.
To think Microsoft deliberately left out such a basic and simple option is a major insult to the user if you ask me.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 17:36 1

111. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

I think the "Poecifer" must be a teeny bopper since social networking is his number 1 priority in a phone. If that's the case he may want to look into getting the Facebook phone. LOL

Also seeing how media is his second priority in a phone he may want to know that the GS3 also offers the ability to play movies through an MHL adapter to be able to fully enjoy a movie and videos in full 1080p HD, where as his precious WP doesn't. I'm not sure the kid did his research as he claims before buying his new phone, but who know's maybe he is still within the grace period where he can trade it in for a real phone (like a GS3). :)

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 16:49

137. Jillsandwich (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

good lord, you fanboys just don't know when to quit..

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 22:02

95. ruukhaviser (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

And now back to your regularly scheduled program. Since I actually HAVE a white 920 and can tell you what it's really like, I'll monitor this thread and answer accordingly. I'll talk more about this later, but I LIKE that it is heavier as it makes me feel as though I'm holding a quality piece of equipment. No offense to other phones, but featherweight phones feel cheap to me. But that is only my humble opinion.

I understand one's commitment to their ecosystem and their phone; it is a reflection of their decision process and confirms they made the right choice - that is all. And it is perfectly fine. If it works for the individual, then they are correct in their own mind and that is perfectly fine as well. Arguing which is better is not really necessary because neither side will convince the other, and besides it only deteriorates into a side issue that the general public will skip over anyway. I should know because this is my first post and I'm usually on the other side of the fence. I skip the flaming as it never helps me further understand the real attributes of the piece of equipment.

Hence, you may ask me any question you like about the phone, but don't be surprised if I ignore some of the more negative comments.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 02:57

100. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Good post.
How much do you use the phone for internet?
I'm curious about the lack of text wrapping in the browser.. isn't reading complex pages and long articles a pain?

posted on 04 Dec 2012, 23:09

96. Edd71 (Posts: 2; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

I don't care what anyone says... the lumia920 feels like no other phone in ur hands. the way it nicely fits one handed... and the way it PERFECTLY fits two handed

the weight of the phone actually makes it feel more elegant, and more luxurious than the competition. all these complaints about the phone being so fat... why the negative light on it being heavier. I actually think the weight is what makes using the phone feel so nice... if u use this phone as a daily driver, then u will know what im talking about... the way the phone sits absolutely perfectly balanced in ur hands...

use one and you will understand.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 06:40

102. ruukhaviser (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

Thanks, Darac. Web browsing at around 95%. I've never had a phone that had text wrapping, so it's nothing I've ever thought about. The screen resolution is so high it fully - and legibly - renders the site from edge to edge, including ads. I merely double tap on the text and it zooms right down to the paragraph's width. I *could* just read it as is, but obviously easier to zoom.

In addition, I typically use news aggregators (Weave, News360, USAToday, CNN etc) which automatically strip down the first couple paragraphs of the article. I can go directly to the site by clicking the provided link.

To be honest with you I would find text wrapping a little disconcerting as I...well...want to just see the web page and make a decision as to what part I want to zoom. I like driving stick shift cars because *I* want to tell the car's engine when to shift rather than the engine telling *me* when it's going to shift gears. I like maintaining control so I have no complaints about text wrapping. The site is rendered text-first too, so I can start reading the moment it pops up. The rest of it comes in later so it really flies when you surf. The hardware is so fast I push the back button and nearly instantaneously flash back to the aggregator.

EXCEPT: typing comments like this one can be frustrating if I had compromised eyesight. The screen resolution and screen size make up for this.

Edd71 is *exactly* right. I had a 900 and loved it, but there were indeed issues even when compared to my wife's Samsung Focus. But the 920 blows the 900 out of the water in all aspects and should really be called a 1000. The high demand and subsequent supply issues are justified. I don't think anyone thought it would have THIS much of an impact and Nokia blew the manufacturing orders. But better to be lower than make too many, I suppose.

You really need to drive it yourself, and if possible for a couple hours. Weight isn't something I even think about and it feels like a solid quality product rather than a pair of eye glasses. I'd recommend it to anyone.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 09:26 1

107. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Oh this post is so significant.
It actually illustrates exactly why I am frustrated with wp supporters. Most of them never tried android ..at least not at its best, fully and properly.
Instead of making an educated choice they base theirs on ignorance, prejudice and bias.

You know, your reply is exactly how I would look at things, if having an L900 that worked out for me, and then upgrading to L920..and never bothering to check what else is there on offer.
If something works fine for me, does that mean I don't deserve something better?
Trust me, I'm surfing on phones for 7 years now, and there were times I was fine with opera mini 5, on a 2.2inch screen.
The point is, you think you don't need a text wrap on your browser, but once you start using it, you will never settle for less again.
You'll actually wonder how could you let a browser get away without it.
Once you try a full flash, full HTML, feature packed, monthly updated browser that has a text wrap and works much smoother than iPhone 5' stock safari (I've used it so you can trust me on this too )..you will never settle for a stock only, limited browser again.
You'll see how a mobile internet experience really should be like..a true joy to use.

You don't understand the complaints?
Well, think about this example I gave, and read my lengthy post above.
It's the same thing on all accounts.
Just because you don't know what android can give you, doesn't make a windows phone good enough for you.

I just wish all you could try out the best android experience properly and fully, before going for the WP.

If after that, and only after that, you still prefer and go for the latter, I will have on problem with and have a full respect for your decision.

And as for the windows marketplace, well you're simply wrong.
Android gets several times more new applications, per month. (I think the numbers are somewhere around 50 000:10 000 in favor of Google play )
It's just because the marketplace is so much smaller, it appears to be growing faster

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 14:21 1

108. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

..just to make myself clear..i wasn't trying to criticize you, "ruukhaviser"..you seem to truly appreciate and enjoy the phone and it seems to be the best choice for you so kudos for that.
i was just using your response to illustrate and point towards some general flaws in picking up an OS.

i have tried everything and if i chose something, it is because i've fully educated my self about choices prior to decision.
wp will work better for some people, no doubt about that - but in general i just find too many of nokia and wp fans simply to be biased and ignorant.
and they are losing because of that

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 08:17 1

125. ruukhaviser (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)

Ah, no worries. I don't get offended too easily and flaming doesn't help discussions here (or at anytime); people are potentially reading these to get an idea of what they may want to purchase. You have good points and I'm not in a good position to argue with the other ecosystem. I'm just expressing my opinion on what I see regarding my own device.

I'm assuming you've driven a Windows 7.5 device for awhile to get a good feel for it, and therefore your comments are/would be certainly justified. (Just a helpful tip: make sure you test out an 8 device too so your device education is fully up to date; I don't anticipate your opinion to change, but I just want to make sure you're comparing apples to apples so your well-rounded criticism isn't picked apart by a couple people with perhaps an updated understanding of the recent changes to the OS.) Thanks for your frank discussion.

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 16:08 1

136. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Well, I'm honestly enjoying your replies so the thank is on you : )

That Nokia of yours is really in a good hands.

But to answer on my WP experience.. it was a fairly short a few occasions without even taking into consideration honestly. Now I know this sounds like a double standard on my behalf but I believe that really isn't the case.
You see I'm a phone geek, and really a power user that knew enough about windows phone to pretty much realize right away it won't work for me.

My first hand impressions about the OS are that of a tight, smooth, cohesive, stylish and maximally simplified and uniformed elegance.
And trust me, I am aware of the advantages of such approach, and the philosophy behind it. I get it. And in many ways I kind of like it.
It was exactly what I expected it would be.
For someone that doesn't need the maximum out of his gadget potential, it can be a good, efficient choice.

But it is far from meeting my needs.
It puts you under a strict, rigid guideline and scheme of functioning.
It's telling you there's only one way of doing things.
Which is just wrong way to go, if you ask me.
It doesn't give you freedom, it doesn't give you the feeling of having a true, incredibly capable and flexible portable computer that can be shaped towards you and just keep on getting better with you in command.

There, that's just my personal take on the matter.

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 17:44 1

112. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

I totally agree with you "ruukhaviser". This guy sounds like the iPhone lovers back when the iPhone didn't have flash. They were all running around saying their phones didn't need flash, but Apple was quick to implement a flash soon after they had enough complaints of poor pics in low light situations. I remember my friends with iPhone were always asking me to take the pic because you could actually see my images quite well in the dark.

The think is it's hard to know what your missing when you haven't tried something yet. ;)

posted on 05 Dec 2012, 18:16 1

114. Ivan6479 (Posts: 249; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Oops I meant to say I agree with "darac".

posted on 06 Dec 2012, 05:16

123. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Damn that was a weird mistake haha.
Alright, I was confused as you can imagine

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