Nokia Lumia 920 Review
0. phoneArena 12 Nov 2012, 07:14 posted on
Well people, Nokia have listened intently to all the concerns and followed through appeasing the masses by incorporating a PureView camera into a Windows Phone. Culminating all into the Nokia Lumia 920, the successor to the Lumia 900 from earlier in the year, there’s a lot of excitement regarding this flagship device – but most importantly, will it actually stir enough noise to entice consumers to take grasp of it?...
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75. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
Yeah you have been using android for awhile and got used to it, but if you take someone who has no prior knowledge of either is and gave them a android device and wp8 device I'm pretty certain wp8 will be the one they pick up and get used to easier.
I'm talking about all versions of Android, its come along way but seeing as android users always boast about how much you can change and how its for the tech savvy you can't sit there and say that know suddenly android is more simple then wp8
If he can't come to grips with wp8 then there not much chance android will be any easier.
96. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I wouldn't say that Android is confusing, and ICS and JB helped A LOT with UX, but it's still based off an older system, so it isn't as intuitive as a modern OS like WP8 (or, as rumors suggest, BB10). Not to say that it's NOT intuitive, just not AS intuitive. Steeper learning curve, but once past that easy to navigate and lots of options and extras that only Symbian and MeeGo can rival for mobile phone OSes.
That said, I had a chance to use a Nexus7 for an afternoon last weekend. It was almost painful. Great system, but coming from WP, it was bass-ackwards and took too many steps to do things I'm used to doing without thought. I'll grant that it wasn't my device, so setup for someone else, but it felt like going to C++ when you're used to HTML5, or working on a carbuertored car when used to working with fuel injection, or to using an abacus or slide rule when used to using a calculator. Not bad, just felt inefficient and less user friendly, and, dare I say it, unpleasant in comparison. That said, I borrowed an ipad for about a minute to try to do the same task and gave it right back it was so awful.
123. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1178; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Not really, i got the Lumia 800 back in March and it makes sense pretty quickly. Android is probably the most confusing/dense UI you'll ever see.
109. Bilpocalypse (Posts: 301; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
Wow. If you can't figure out the most user-friendly smartphone interface on the planet, how do you expect to figure out Android or IOS?
116. i_hate_my_life (banned) (Posts: 24; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)
u my friend....are just plain dumb :')
16. Raziel14 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Mar 2012)
I think Nokia provided Lenses: Cinemagraph, Smart Shoot, and Panorama to add features to camera, with more available soon...
20. i_hate_my_life (banned) (Posts: 24; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)
CANT WAIT for the 'draw' article: Lumia 920 vs iPhone 5
151. vslayer (Posts: 34; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
yah .... i think they need a deeper comparison of the two devices exp .messaging in ios and wp, email music,etc. so that the people will know on how ios and WP are diff. from earch other.
27. i_hate_my_life (banned) (Posts: 24; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)
they gave it a 9 becoz they dont want the Lumia 920 to beat their iphone 5
a draw again -_-"
33. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
In this year's phone line up, the only, and I mean ONLY camera module I've seen NOT continuously re-focusing upon movement - any movement even if it is slow and background distance doesn't change - is the one featured in the Galaxy S3 and Note II.
Can a camera expert explain how Samsung manages to cut re-focus down and why the otherwise superb iPhone5 and 920 keep blurring up the image every couple of seconds?
37. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
well thats lie's mate, there are comparisions between the s3 and 808, iphone etc and the s3 refocus's alot, in some it loses focus for no reason.
you trying to say somehow the s3 and note 2 are better in terms of camera is based on nothing your just trying to slate anything that isnt samsung right now
sansumg dont excel in the camera department
69. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Well, I watched many Note II sample videos and focus remained rock solid, so before you arrogantly call someone a liar I advice you to check your facts, that's exactly what I did.
102. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
well can you share these amazing facts with me then, where the s3 and note 2 are better in camera comparisions to the 920, iphone 5, htc one x, 808 pureview and all other phones from this year which you claim cant keep focus and before you say you didnt say that i refer you to this
''n this year's phone line up, the only, and I mean ONLY camera module I've seen NOT continuously re-focusing upon movement - any movement even if it is slow and background distance doesn't change - is the one featured in the Galaxy S3 and Note II. ''
58. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Not sure about that, but the iphone's sensor actually cuts away (crops) a lot of the image being used in its video mode (much like how youtube cuts out the edges for its "camera shake" correction) so I wonder if that has anything to do with it. If I remember right it actually changes the image to like 4MP from the standard 8MP when in software image-stabilization mode. The video from Engadget showing the 5 and 920 side-by-side at Nokia HQ is a good demonstration of this.
34. SK_007 (Posts: 17; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
I am an Android guy no matter what anybody say about it but seriously the credit should be given to any other smartphone(non-android)if it deserves and in my view Lumia 920 is without any doubt that phone infact this is the only phone which can force me to leave Android and try WP8,and after reading this and many other reviews regarding Lumia 920 i am in real trouble in choosing my next smartphone.
Thumbs up Nokia!!!
38. tasior (Posts: 265; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)
Does anyone know if windows phones have bluetooth and wifi tethering?
60. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
They've had Bluetooth from the get-go, and tethering from 7.5 onwards (I think, might have been NoDo). 8 brings Bluetooth file transfer though, which is new to the platform.
44. EasycapExpertti (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
You didn't mention that Nokia Lumia 920 has 3pcs HAAC (High Amplitude Audio Capture ) microphones and so the recorded audio is distortion free also at the loudest music performances and it can record also very low bass sound vs its rivals has nonHAAC mics and so the recorded audio at music concert recordings is mostly distorted and theycan't capture low bass sound.
45. Grishm (Posts: 54; Member since: 18 May 2012)
I like the phone's build quality, hardware and the fantastic camera. I prefer Android to Windows though. Too bad it runs on Windows platform and not Android.
47. redmd (Posts: 1203; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I feel you bro. but we can all say that Lumia 920 is one beautiful device!
49. EasycapExpertti (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
*9* Nokia Lumia 920, iPhone 5, Samsung Note 2, LG Optimus G.
*8.7* Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX HD
*8.5* Samsung Ativ, Motorola DROID RAZR HD.
*8* HTC 8X, Sony Xperia T.
139. redmd (Posts: 1203; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
you should also take Note the cons of those who got a score of 9.
51. ajin1989 (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Excellent review !!
As said they should have added more functions in camera dept
or as said in one of the comments, they should have added the third part app as pre installed which will bring all the functionality
When this will be released in India ??
61. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Technically not a third-party app (as it's made by Nokia, the OEM), FYI, but yes
53. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)
Love Nokia but the color is a little garish.
55. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)
Much better than the review from Gizmodo where they gave three starts out of five because it was "just too damn heavy." This was coming from the guy said he had a "pretty huge d**k." Sam Biddle is an iPhone loving little girl.
62. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Yeah I think I've only encountered one thing worth reading from little-biddle that wasn't an apple love letter. He degrades what integrity gizmodo has even moreso
57. Seanburns (Posts: 4; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Phone Arena if you have checked the latest new on this phone you will know that Nokia has said that they will release a new update fix for the camera. They admitted that the daytime focus issues and softness was the post processing of images. Same thing happened when the 900 was released and then was fixed in an update so will be ok once solved. And please stop comparing iphone display with this. The iphone screen is pale in comparison and no as sharp. Iphone is over rated.
71. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Nokia is quite good with the software updates. I got the 900 the week before it was officially on sale (I pre-ordered it). Not only did I get the phone for free for the pre-order, Nokia also did an update for something I didn't have a problem with, AND a $100 billing credit on top of it, so I didn't have a bill for a month and a much smaller one the month after!
59. Seanburns (Posts: 4; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
I played with an 820 today and even the screen on that was gorgeous. I also played with the HTC 8X and it looked drab the screen did compared to the Nokia
67. ajin1989 (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Whether an AT&T off contract phone bought for $ 450 will work in other countries (India)?
i mean whether it will be locked ?
450 Dollars means almost 25000 INR
Lumia 900 itself costs 31000 INR here
72. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Yes, it is locked to AT&T. The Lumia 900 was impossible to unlock until October 7th (6 mos after it came out), and the 920 (and 820) are looking to be the same. If you want it unlocked, you'll have to (and this is Nokia's statement from a chat I had with their online customer care team) buy it from Amazon at full price, which I think is $600. $450 is for AT&T-only locked device
77. ajin1989 (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
600 $ = 33k INR!!
i will wait for it to release in india
Reports are saying that it will be costing around 30k to 35 k
and will be released in November end. Hope they will fix the softness in camera by that time and no other will be able to compete with it
Some says that battery drains very rapidly and phone gets hotter if Nokia drive is on.
70. b1acktiger (Posts: 223; Member since: 19 May 2012)
i still wonder why microsoft choose htc windows phone 8x as the signature device ? there must be something behind this decision. What ?
73. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
"Signature" doesn't mean "flagship". There are a number of signature Windows 7 devices, but they are mid- to mid-high range, not high-range (i.e. Sony, Alienware, FX, etc). It just means that it is running a "pure" Microsoft experience. Nokias don't get that because of the Nokia extras. It's a bit odd because the HTCs get extra software things too.
97. b1acktiger (Posts: 223; Member since: 19 May 2012)
HTC Locations, Photo Enhancer, Converter, Flash Light is there as HTC extras+ at& t or other carrier apps. No OEM has the right to alter the WP 8, how the user experience is going to change hence its not open source os ? Its still the same WP 8 except some bloatware in it.
74. i_hate_my_life (banned) (Posts: 24; Member since: 17 Dec 2010)
Lumia became more Lumia on its own, and less Windows. they lost grip on those devices.
76. snowgator (Posts: 3545; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Wow. Happy with both the write up and the score. The 920 is a true attempt at a premium device. Could ask for no more without a stronger set of features baked in or at least in the store like options for keyboard choices, more detailed photo editors instead of just basic ones, some other choices that WP still is behind in the Android and iOS market.
But these choices will come, and the development is strong. What WP needs now is converts, people to give it a try. The 920, 820/810/822, and the 8X offer some opportunities for that. The 920 truly CAN stand next to the GS2, iPhone 5, and the top end devices from Motorola and Android HTC offerings. At least now it is a fair fight, where with WP7 it truly wasn't.
85. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Well, have Lumia 900 and pictures quality is worse that the one I have on my older phone.
WM lacks VPN so forget about secure connection that is a must for a business phone.... more than a year passed and M$ is not able to implement it in WM7.5 and from what I see WM8 is missing it as well.
For me Lumia 900 I bought is the very last WM mobile. Hate to say that but it's better to go even with iPhone that can do a magic trick of your data securing.
Funny but instead of L900 I should have purchase N808 ; at least photos would be amazing (despite of Symbiant OS).
Probably in a year or so will go for Samsung Galaxy class.
86. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
One more thing is e-mail client....
It's configured as POP3 and behaves like IMAP. No way to mark messages so you can keep them ; they just disappear from Inbox after a while when deleted from server (why not to keep them all on the server? my database is about 8GB so they stay on the server for a week and it's the reason I use POP3 so they will stay on the client as long as needed).
90. snowgator (Posts: 3545; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Your labeling it "WM7" instead of "WP 7" is strange for an owner of a WP device. Just sayin.
110. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
You right, I wrote WM and should be WP.
Long time ago I did own before WM (Mio a701) and I was very pleased with that one and it hard encoded in my brain.
Sorry, for mistake.
91. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Lumias don't run Windows Mobile. They run Windows PHONE. Totally different OS.
As for VPN, I thought WP8 allows for that?
Also, Lumia 900 takes good pictures. Not up to the 808PV or N8 level, of course, but good for a camera phone. The Nokia Camera Extras free app helps with photo settings and quality.
111. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
As for pictures I can't agree about L900 (same about my wife's L800). SE ARC is superior despite of its age.
Try to take a picture of a business card in semi or bad light conditions. If you don't fire flash it's darkly and hard to read ; if you fire flash center of a business card is OK but corners are black (it's a heavy ellipse shape) looming above the picture.
Checked it on two L900 and my wife's L800 all was the same.
If you want me I can post later on same photos taken with SE ARC and L900 so you could see the difference.
Hoped for VPN in WP8 as well ; as for what I read there is none and I don't want to wait maybe a year or two before it gets there (if).
78. fervid (Posts: 183; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I'd agree the camera let me down a little, but they have released a few "lenses" the last couple days and are working on a software fix for some of the other issues. Most of the faults I have with the phone are WinPhone features lacking though and nothing with the hardware. I disagree about the speaker and call issues though. My calls are all clear and the speaker output is the best I've heard in any phone. I have no need for headphones and my music is clear too.
80. muhsen (Posts: 280; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
although, i am maybe nitpicking but i don't think "this isn’t the most cutting-edge or compelling device in recent memory" is really true. excluding the galaxy note 2(better or even with lumia 920 with respect to ur opinion), i don't see any device better than the lumia 920.
81. Jyakotu (Posts: 844; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)
As I read this review and see that Verizon is getting a Nokia Lumia phone, my rage for Sprint only grows. I'm still wondering how in the hell they want to take a chance with Firefox OS, but not even give Windows Phone 8 a chance? The HTC Arrive was their HIGHEST rated customer satisfaction device on their website. Sprint could have at least got one of the HTC 8 phones to replace the Arrive, BUT NO!!! /endrant
As for the Lumia 920, I love the color choices, the display, and the Windows Phone UI itself. Nokia did an excellent job on this device. I'm loving Windows 8, especially using the "Modern" UI, and as much as I've invested with the Android ecosystem, I would definitely consider switching to Windows Phone in the future.
98. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I've used Symbian for the last 5 or 6 years, and I thought I couldn't stand being without it. After I got my Lumia 900 unlocked from AT&T and set up on T-Mobile I started leaving my Nokia 701 behind at home. I don't even miss it anymore, which still suprisises me.I still keep it because it has its uses (USB OTG most notably), but once more Symbian features are integrated with WP8 I'll be putting it up for sale. Now if I had an 808 PureView, I might still take that with me every day, but I don't, so...
99. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
WP is just so much more user friendly and does what I want quickly and effectively, and it's pleasant and FUN to use. While I'll grant I did have some "oh, wow, cool!" epiphanies and experiences with Symbian (and Android, to a lesser extent), those events became fewer and farther between. Belle helped a LOT, but with rumors that Carla and Donna were going to be stillborn or aborted, I decided to switch to the platform Nokia is publically behind, and is supporting openly in the US.
103. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
the only problem i have with wp8 is the fact it cant yet support the kind of camera on my 808. id switch in an instant if they brought out a 808 pureview running wp8
114. rsxl5 (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)
Bought L900 just to try it and was going to buy L920 at once it's on the market if it has 808 superb camera. Wel.. it dosn't.
I must say that do like L900 experience (calls are clear, battery gets me mostly through a day and it works mostly as expected), however, I can't give a pass on:
a) Implemented e-mail client (K9 on Android is 2-3 levels above what you find on WP),
b) Lack of VPN (1. Encrypted transmission, 2. I do live in China).
Looks like the rest of major bumps (ie: general sound volume system, interface limitations, Skype notifications, etc) is to be fixed in WP8 but due to above (and a camera that I do not believe to be as good as advertised) I'm going to pass on WP mobiles.
Ehh...if only it's fixed and next Lumia gets 808 camera I'm on it. Why do people want to get the slimes mobile (or are told they want it).
118. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
It does seem wp8 has all that it needs and more, just for me personally the camera is a deal breaker. I can't go from the best camera phone to second best.
And true, I like a phone with bulk to it and a good weight,never caught the phone must be thinner bug and when people state the thinness of a phone as a feature it just shows there's not much else on offer
But a wp8 808 pureview would be my next device in a heartbeat.nothing matches the 808's camera