Nokia Lumia 900 vs Apple iPhone 4S
0. phoneArena 03 Apr 2012, 20:31 posted on
Stirring things up on AT&T’s lineup, smartphones need to be aware that the Nokia Lumia 900 is out for blood and setting its eyes on some of the best of the best in the market. Rightfully so, we think it’s relevant to pit Nokia’s flagship against, you know, Apple’s pride and joy in the iPhone 4S – since they’re both so gosh darn lovable in many ways...
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1. Birds (Posts: 1139; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Not to spoil the review but.... THE LUMIA 900 WON!!!!! I CAN't BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!! And who says being cheaper isn't better.
24. biophone (Posts: 1900; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
lol you might want to read the review first before posting.... This is embarrassing.
31. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
they both won categories, so it depends on whats most important to you. After looking at the pix and vids and such, even with the iphone's 1080p advantage, it only won in the pix by a smidge. You are talking a $100-200 advantage for the 900 (depending on where you get it.)... if you want great without spending, the 900 is the clear choice. If you want great and have money to spend, then its up to you. Apple definitely beats it in apps and minorly beats it in other features exept for calling and screen size.
65. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
IPhone Wins= "We're going to have to go with the IPhone in this one."
Lumia 900/Competitor Wins= "You can't go wrong with either one of these devices."
74. wendygarett (unregistered)
The iphone is clearly a loser... due to its dated, fragile, and crappy looking... Stop compare the iphone to the 3.5-inch above handsets please...
3. vvelez5 (Posts: 623; Member since: 29 Jan 2011)
Lumia 900 is a beast. Less than a week and I'll be owning one myself. I've been waiting too long for this device.
6. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I think Nokia and Windows will be a winning combination. Android is in trouble.
16. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
i fully agree... they are some great phones...
and just saying but a little mention about the ip4 vs the 900 might be quite relevant... they would seem to be more competition at the pricepoint
39. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Lol, no..Android is just leagues and worlds ahead of WP at the moment..just a no comparison at all.
Nokia Lumia is a great value for money, but it's actually just a desperate try(backed up by Microsoft's cash) to gain some market impact - i think that Nokia is actually on zero margin per unit with this price for Lumia 900.
And even if it sells great, that's just one phone, a drop in the ocean that the overall market is.
It can't stop WP from sinking even lower in the smartphone OS market share.
I predict it will fall under 2 percent worldwide in the next 2 quarters.
While android will reach 60 percent actually.
Here again, just to grasp how much circles Android runs around WP:
49. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
lol yes... maybe u should list some valid points instead of just talk?
and wp7 has been gaining market share... is it going to plunge with the introduction of a great device? does that make any sense at all?
and yes its desperate... but desperation often creates the best of products -- look at apple... they almost failed as a company but their desperation created some amazing products that lead markets today..
nobody wants wp7 to be the next android... it is very different and needs to stay that way-- and yes, the marketshare will come from android as ios is extremely stable, and i am not sure how much more the "other" category can lose
51. c.hack (Posts: 552; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
I would much much rather get the 900 over any Droid. If not for the innovative OS design MS has come up with (instead of a clunk iOS copy like android), then for the nice hardware and great performance.
Good battery life, good reception, and good call quality is unmatched by any droid. It has a better camera than most droids and gets better performance out of one core than most droids get out of two.
If nothing else, this points out how lame Android is after 2 years of trying to copy iOS and doing nothing innovative except stuffing more cores into an antiquated OS - the old Dalvik machine that android uses. Most droid users don't even know that their OS can only use one core.
63. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
That's a pretty bold statement you made there. Explain to me how exactly Android is a "copy" of iOS in your words.
71. yodanim (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
static icons, home screens, samsung (the most successful android OEM, continuously copies hardware and software designs like Touchwiz looks like the "friendly" iOS icons, their Galaxy S2 and Tab look like their respective phone / tablets, hence their continuous lawsuits - not that I blame Samsung, they make the A5/6 chips and the Retina Displays), other than that - Widgets are the only things that sets Android apart - Oh and their horrible design UI, that they are trying to fix by hiring Matiias Duarte and telling developers to have some cohesiveness in ICS, along with some direct copies of WP7.5 by adding sharing to almost every screen via all social netoworks, and trying to become more typographically centered (Roboto Font). Android is not exactly a stolen product, but it has strengths and weaknesses in it's open-source mentality. The most-customizable OS, and the most unstable. I prefer android 4.0 to iOS 5, but the marketplace is a wild-west and I don't have the time to root and flash ROMS,so the happy middle was windows phone for me. I have used them all original iPhone, iPhone 3G, 3GS, HTC Surround, HTC Titan, Lumia 900, iPad, and Motorola XOOM.
32. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
nokia and windows are a great challenge... windows is a decently controlled and closed OS (though way more open than apple to hackers).. so id say iOS is in more trouble than those that prefer a totally open OS like android.
35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Apple has a very loyal customer base. iPhone users are much less likely to switch than android users. There's a lot of dissatisfied android users looking to switch. The ones who don't want to give Apple a try will go windows. I predict in a few years the big 3 will be iOS, android and Windows. I think iOS will maintain it's market share while android drops to the 30's and windows will be up in the 20-30% range.
40. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
And the Earth will start spinning in the other direction.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i love your predictions. they are always the opposite of reality.
52. c.hack (Posts: 552; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
I completely agree. I got so sick of android after 2 years of use I tried the iPhone and love it. But I would just as likely have switched to the 900. It looks like a decent phone.
Unlike Android, MS will support it and provide updates. I'm sure a lot of users will switch.
69. u76200 (Posts: 1; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
I have at home a fair amount of Apple hardware:
1 MB Air
1 MacMini server
2 iPhone 4 (me and my oldest son)
I think the iPhone is one of the worst phones I have ever had. The battery life is dreadful, connection quality is poor and I keep on making accidental ghost calls - I really hate the touch screen. It is, however, a wonderful pocket computer and PDA.
I am seriously contemplating getting the new Lumia, so so much for loyalty.
12. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Both devices have their pros and cons. As John V. mentioned, it really will boil down to what the consumer is looking forward to using (for the next 1-2 years). For some, the $100 price variance may sway them to the Nokia Lumia 900 if their heart is not set on the iPhone 4S.
13. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)
I'd personally go for the Lumia, since iOS is getting stale, and I couldnt use a phone smaller than 4" comfortably. That being said, the 4S is also great. My mom has one and loves it, but she's much more familiar with iOS and doesn't wanna deal with anything new. Mainly just a matter of preference on OS.
17. droiddomination (Posts: 203; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
this phone totally rocks. i will venture out of my android domain and order it. if it sux arse, i will take it back and get the lg nitro hd. very nice as well. apple sux balls and is just so played out. it is very obvious this author is an isheep. he is trying so hard to make iturd look relevant. i love how they are always saying that android phones with physical buttons are middle grade, old, etc. capacitive is the rage, then when we listen to this isheep, he is dogging out the capacitive buttons and praises the iturd 2007 single button. another example, if you look at this authors review of the lumia 900, he is dogging the camera big time, and also the video, and in this article..they are like neck and neck...just oozing bias! ps. who is the loser 666 kid with a insecurity problem trying to rip off the borg style lines? very cheezy..you are a disgrace to the borg..and will def not be assemilated! most likely you will be jetison'd with the core!
18. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 864; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)
I'm going to do a comparison of the 900 vs my N8 in the camera department when I get one just to see how it differs quality wise. It annoys me to no end that I've read multiple times now that the camera is just "average," and yet, I've almost expected it to turn out that way for some reason. I really hope Damian is reading these reviews and looking into what's going on here.
28. ShibeshMehrotra (Posts: 9; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)
No need, N8 will win hands down. Bigger sensor, Xenon flash. Unless the same camera module or at least Xenon flash is added to the Lumia series, the camera will remain average. Until at least an year, after which they will kick ass with PureView.
P.s. Love the username. :D
22. T00muchF00D (Posts: 98; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)
i will be buying this in june when my upgrade is due!!! =]
27. ShibeshMehrotra (Posts: 9; Member since: 03 Apr 2012)
I think the two parts where the Lumia gets beat is display resolution and camera. While the resolution is a standard set by MS and Nokia can't do a hing about it, the cameras in the Lumia series have been known to disappoint, but improve on Software Updates. Maybe we can expect that in a couple of months time? Also, with Apollo, PureView for Windows Phones becomes a reality. Can't wait to check out the sweet combination. :)
30. -box- (Posts: 3978; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
To summarize the review: Lumia 900 is an excellent device and a great value at $99.99 on contract (or less!), with obvious deficiencies because of its platform (resolution, primarily) and on typical Nokia fashion, it's an almost-perfect PHONE, with a few sacrifices in other areas to make it widely available and affordable. It's not made by underpaid workers in crummy conditions, so it's guilt-free, and actually worth its price.
The iPhone, on the other hand, ever the perennial favorite (for good or ill) has some advantages, but its flaws weren't presented fairly in this review: the OS is old and bland, the design uninspired, it still has antenna and battery issues, it's fragile, and its origins are shockingly bad, and the company is still corrupt and oppressive, and continues to exploit patent law for its own gain
41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Nokia uses Foxconn factories by the way
45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
taco.. again.. how many foxconn items have I bought or plan to buy since learning what goes on?
47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Did you know Samsung is on Foxconn's list of clients. Better turn in that galaxy phone.
55. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
troll go research. galaxy phones are made at Samsung internal factories and not outsourced.
try .. yet.. again...
56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Remix please read. Samsung has Foxconn make products for them. It was in the NY Times article that attacked Apple about working conditions at Foxconn and its also on Foxconn's Wikipedia page.
37. Mr.Best (Posts: 79; Member since: 17 Jan 2012)
We officially have a third competitor. Interesting times ahead in 2012.
38. o7o (Posts: 97; Member since: 26 Jun 2009)
Why does the commentator in the video comparison keeps saying the iPhone 4S has a 5 megapixel camera?! It's an 8 megapixel one!
50. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
Why did John V. set up the background in white? it looks awful!!....The Nokia Luma 900 has a ClearBlack AMOLED display so thefore the best color for the background is "BLACK".
53. hoopsnyoyo15 (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
This is going to be the motorola droid of windows phone ... if that makes any sense lol
54. Smart (Posts: 76; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
Why does John V keep saying that Iphone 4s has a 5 MP camera..........All I know is that Iphone 4s has an 8 MP camera.....
57. darkknight (Posts: 20; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
results of the above
mobile connectivity - nokia L900
size - nokia L900
sound quality - nokia L900
quality and material - nokia L900
internet connectivity - nokia L900
processor - nokia L900
interface( active tiles- nokia L900
photo ( for me as photograf) - nokia L900
video auto focus for nokia, 1080 for IP - equal
screen resolution - IP
prize - definitely nokia L900
for the God sake , how they are equal and how nokia L900 get 8 stars and IP 8.5 stars????????
60. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)
I've got to disagree with a few. The camera on both the Lumia 800 and 900 have been less than stellar to say the least; yet, the iPhone offers little to no options when it comes to the camera; I'd give slight edge to the iPhone in the camera department. Also the processor, while it's clocked at around 800 mhz it's still dual core and hence I'd also give that to the iPhone. Other than that, I think you're spot on.
58. piyush.pgi (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
Why in the Video it's being told that iPhone 4S has a 5MP Camera???
59. rayjones09 (Posts: 149; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)
Seems you made a fwe mistakes John V, the iPhone 4S has an 8 Megapixel Camera and the Nokia Lumia 900 is indeed connected to LTE and not HSPA+. Other than that, nice review.
61. Havok125 (Posts: 10; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
I'm sure someone must have already caught this but just incase, the iPhone 4S has a 8 MP camera and not a 5 MP like the video states.
62. expertsolver (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
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64. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
I love Nokia and Window and I'm so glad to see that they have released this kick a** phone. Hopefully, people catch on and buy it. I can't imagen what Xbox Live titles there going to release on these devises. I'm sure that it will bring them a lot of attention from gamers. You go Nokia+Windows!
66. solidsnakeduds013 (Posts: 218; Member since: 20 Oct 2010)
Finally a phone that can compete with the Iphone 4S! I thought Android would make a phone that is worthy to be compared to the iphone, but it look like windows beat them to it. The 900 beats the the almost every android phone except the note GN and equal to the S2. (im talking in terms of smoothness and overall design). I used this phone before and for a Single core phone its a beast!
67. wicaksono7 (Posts: 1; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
i don't understand why fanboy and android have an endless ongoing argument in every gadget/phone review, even in WP and iOS review, lol, i know ios is overpriced but it is overpriced when we are thinking only about the hardware, but in ecosystem and userfriendly departement ios still one step ahead, the app store is easy to navigate, almost no dangerous app (power drain, add, or even virus) even my mother can use it, and believe me, my mother is nokia s60 lover (just sms and phone) but when she bought iphone she love it. on the other hand, people with "open source" love will love android, and their lineup flagship phone has amazing line up, in term of hardware i will choose android, but in easyness to use, iphone for the time being, don't know in 2 or 3 years from now. i love android, but i still love my iphone, and no, i'm not rich, i buy it with a credit for a year. and my android is a quarter in the price area from my 4s, but still the hardware is very good, in the end every phone you choose is only because you want it. (and i can't wait to get a WP as soon as possible, big microsoft fan). sorry for the mess up english
68. jubbing (Posts: 150; Member since: 20 Aug 2008)
Epic phone the Lumia 900. I can only feel that with Windows Phone 8, a Nokia phone with a higher resolution (screen), more features, and dual core processor will seriously demolish all if they keep up with excellent designs.
70. vipermuscle83 (Posts: 2; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)
Im an at&t employee and have been given a lumia 900 for over a week now and let me tell ya, major dissapointment. Screen isnt better than samsungs, data connection problems, and though i love the cleverness and layout of wp7, it gets incredibly boring after a few days. Android will remain king of OSes until someone else comes along with another one that gives you unlimited potential.
72. expertsolver (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
73. expertsolver (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
75. eli_waeterling (Posts: 22; Member since: 07 Jun 2009)
the video was wrong, iphone 4s also has an 8 mp camera