Nokia Lumia 800 Review
0. phoneArena 10 Nov 2011, 06:53 posted on
We are embracing change, embracing Windows Phone 7.5, embracing Stephen Elop's vision and embracing the Nokia Lumia 800. A unibody plastic device with a beveled Gorilla Glass display, a 1.4GHz processor and f2.2 8MP camera put the Lumia 800 at the top of Windows Phone technology on paper, but the question on everyone's lips seems to be: have Nokia done enough?...
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1. AKm007 (Posts: 108; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
lol, no front facing camera is mentioned twice.
31. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
''Lumia 800 is expected to land for about $580 (EUR 420) without carrier subsidies''. Why do PA say that this phone is too expensive???
33. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Because compared to the other competition, the Lumia 800 is expensive.
44. NokTokDaddy (Posts: 21; Member since: 12 May 2010)
You're right: 'Windows' implies a view onto your digital world, whereas Mango offers open doors.
This is the most liberating mobile experience available right now: I was playing with a friend's iP4 after a few days with my Lumia 800 and it actually felt clunky and awkward after Mango
Never thought I'd say that about iOS...
4. Pego71 (Posts: 7; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)
The first device windows phone nokia no call cam...absurd !!!
remember that Microsoft has acquired skipe, ANDROID FOREVER !!
7. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
That's very true! My old Nokia X6 has a front-facing camera but their new 2011/2012 flagship doesn't have one.
21. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
U know it' was made within 8 months and atthe time they made it Windows had no support, not time to redesign the phone from scratch....don't forget it's Nokia we're talking about they started video calls
40. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)
Yes, both my N8 and older 5800XM have FFC...but to be honest...I hardly ever used them. In fact, I used FFC a short while on fring almost 2 years ago...then stopped because I much prefer the PC for this type of activity. To me, I would much rather have expandable memory and NFC. Then again, the Lumia's come with 25GB cloud storage...which is also very nice.
29. NokTokDaddy (Posts: 21; Member since: 12 May 2010)
Having had front-facing cameras on various Nokias for years now and not used them for anything, this is a feature I can easily live without.
Here in the UK at least, mobile data charges and network capacity effectively prevent video calling taking off on mobile, and if you look at desktop video calling this has hardly been an overwhelming success either.
I think we have to remember that WP7.5 is intended to be a minimalistic yet easy-to-use UI atop a solid and fast OS; WP7.5 is not intended to appeal to the more technically-orientated power users - Nokia have Symbian and (for now) Meego-Harmattan for that.
Having been a Symbian and Maemo user as well as having a SGS2 in the house to play with I can appreciate the virtues of WP7.5 and will probably be buying a Lumia 800 next week:
Even as a power user and sometimes hacker myself, Mango delivers the functionality I need most: excellent email integration, integrated social media, and offline navigation - the latter a feature I rely upon for about five hours every day.
All this in a very sexy package... I was sorely tempted by the Titan (better camera, IMO - something I never thought I'd say about an HTC - especially against an equivalent Nokia) but the more handy size and sheer quality of finish of the Lumia 800 do it for me.
What I find most interesting about WP7.5 is how it makes both Symbian and Android look unduly heavy, complicated and awkward. From a power-user and tinkerer's perspective I'm sure I will find it lacking because everything just works so well.
I suppose I can always keep my N8 or play with the SGS to if I want to indulge in some techno-massochism!
5. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
One of the Pros should be the 8MP still images, the quality is pretty good.
6. Muhannad (Posts: 455; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Also, I find battery life to be decent not one of it's Cons. I think it's because we're used to longer battery life from Nokia phones because of Symbian.
30. NokTokDaddy (Posts: 21; Member since: 12 May 2010)
True - we have been spoilt ;->
As a possible point of reference, someone I know who has had a Lumia 800 for about a week now has said that he's experiencing similar battery life to his own N8 under the same conditions.
I don't think there are any standard devices that could last me a full day away from a charger, so for me at least this is less of an issue.
9. JayJayTG (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
How is the screen 57% smaller than the N9?? The N9 is 3.9" the 800 3.7" so it is not over half the size smaller!
11. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 238; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)
Hm, it is a typo. It is 7% smaller. Sorry :)
10. JayJayTG (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
If people video call then this phone is not for them. Honestly though who does video calling even when they have a FFC on their phone? I recon only 1-2% of smartphone users that have FFC's on their phone video call. Video calling has been going for years just hadnt caught on. People tend to prefer to be indoors when video calling rather than mobile, even then they would use a computer of sorts. The only other reason to have a FFC is if you like taking pictures of yourself lol.
13. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)
but i think it deserved better than 7.5 atleast an 8.. thats what i think but obiously i hvnt used it yet.
14. stevedojobs (Posts: 3; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
Stephen Elop said this phone is the real Window Phone!!!!! As for me it's not because it's the real Elop Phone instead of real Window phone.
15. ryq24 (Posts: 441; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
people now use their phone for skype and having no secondary camera is a big disappointment. then you add the fact that it has only a 3.7" screen. and finally the price. heard its expensive. android can rest easy.
17. orangejuice (Posts: 11; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
If Nokia would have just kept the same hardware as the N9 for the Lumia I would have been way closer to making it my next phone. Going from a 1.4 to 1 ghz processor, 1gb to 512mb RAM and finally the fact that the N9 has a dedicated graphics chip and the Lumia does not are just too much to overlook. WTH Nokia.
18. JayJayTG (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
Actually your wrong its going from a 1GHz CPU (N9) to a 1.4GHz CPU (Lumia 800).
Oh and your wrong again. The Lumia 800 has a dedicated GPU. It uses the Snapdragon S2 SoC that has the Adreno 205 GPU. More advanced than the OMAP SoC PowerVR SGX530 GPU found on the N9!
19. orangejuice (Posts: 11; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
I stand corrected, when I compared the two I must have flipped them in my mind. The Lumia is back on my radar! Thanks for the correction.
34. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
even so, if system and apps are fluid, what for better hardware. You don't like your battery?
23. snowgator (Posts: 3159; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
While I like this as a great first effort for Nokia, especially for the Europe market, there are good things a-coming for the US. So if you were tempted to grab an unlocked 800, you may want to wait until the calander reads 2012 to see what is next. Not only is there the rumored 900, but this LTE gossip based on this 800 design as well:
24. nando2do (Posts: 53; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
how come you didnt give 7 to iphone 4s since it has 3.5 screen and the unlock version is waaaaaaaaaaay more expensive! cmon lets face it. then i invite you to check unlock version of samsung galaxy, motorola droid, etc there been on the market for about 6 months and still expensier than this one!
25. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
I'm just going to wait to see if the Samsung Focus S holds any promise.
PA you can't ding it for having 10% less screen size than the N9, and the battery life is better than a lot of Android handsets
Having Xbox Live integration is good, and all in all, this is the best and fullest WP7 offering to date.
I'm really not impressed with HTCs Windows handsets, HTC please go back to using AMOLED panels in your phones' screens.
27. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)
The N8 showed us you were keen to re-enter the battle with a good screen and great camera
The E6/E7 showed us you hadn't lost your touch in business either.
The X7 showed us you could still make classy looking devices
The N9 showed us that you could make a modern smartphone ecosystem with a touch screen and make it work,
The 701 showed us that you could turn Symbian into a Nokia-ish, more intricate Froyo and make it work like it too. Finally making Symbian able to compete with mid-range Gingerbread devices such as the SE Xperia Ray.
They already perfected Symbian before the Lumia 800 came along. And the point of it was to compete where Symbian couldn't, but WP7, people are being too easy on it, its not new anymore guys.
They got the hardwear right here, great camera, great screen and nice design.
The price is horrendous for what you are offered ($710 off contract)
but if they refine the software then it will be ok.
All in all good effort, but you could've made the screen 4'' or bigger, and adjusted the price tag.
But I guess we'll just wait for the Lumia 900 before any of that happens...
32. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)
''Lumia 800 is expected to land for about $580 (EUR 420) without carrier subsidies''.
26. deacz (Posts: 147; Member since: 02 Nov 2011)
Meh that phone is worth a hell of a lot more than 7.5, only the nokia drive and music apps makes the phone waay better than anything from htc and samsung atm.
Not the best review from phone arena.
28. JayRaj (Posts: 54; Member since: 31 Oct 2010)
Yet another Nokia phone heavily underrated for small cons...
36. razblack (Posts: 8; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)
no front face camera is a downer.. but they have yet to produce the american version. perhaps there is still hope ina lumia 810 or 900 iwth front face camera...
38. LordBonztie (Posts: 51; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
and a front face camera's use would be for?
do you even use your phone for video calls sir?
37. SurajS (Posts: 3; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
The price seems to be quite expensive. samsung omnia seems to me the biggest competitor for Lumia 800.
39. LordBonztie (Posts: 51; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
are you talking about samsung omnia hd?
sir. that phone has s60v5 if im not mistaken.
better known now adays as s^3.
comparing s60v5 against WP OS is like.....
41. bbblader (Posts: 532; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
s^3 is better than s60v5 and comparing only s^3 not anna/belle
is like comparing a computer from 10 years ago to a asus transformer
42. bbin82 (Posts: 3; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
What the ef is this "higher price" con???? Check your facts phone arena!
46. senbobaggins (Posts: 6; Member since: 22 May 2011)
7.5??????????? Phonearena, you're way too harsh on anything that's not Android.
48. gilysolly (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)
Lost my previous nokia yesterday simm card and everything and just trying to get my contact phone list text file backup into my my new lumia 800. Can this be done?
49. Phonegenius (Posts: 1; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
i won the phone feb 2012.
after 6 months the inner handset speaker broke.
sent the phone to be fixed ( long process to get the phone back 14days) got a brand new phone after too months the phone was on charge and after 2 hours i had went to check the time and the phone would NOT turn on.
I liked the phone very much but after two phones broke, i found the phone lacked security and battery life was brutal.
Pro: great size screen, good apps, great sound (when working) , fabulous camera , great storage.
Cons: battery life disappointing, could not get music unless zune software on computer/laptop, sometimes shut down, freezes occasionally, no memory insert, cant take battery out.
i enjoyed the phone when i had it but i wouldn't go into a store ans buy it as it has disappointed me on many occasions.